tex_complex

ok so for my question of concern is simple,
how much power can the factory rear end handle before i need to start worrying?

i will b buying an rx-8 here soon and have plans to s/c it and tune it lightly, not anything off the wall or ***** out just a lil above factory fun

i'm not new to the car scene just to rotorys, had my turboed eclipses and cammed firebirds b4.
i've read all newbie threads and fact-checked all around.

also if anyone knows who sells a 3 point strut bar that bolts to the firewall also that would b appriciated. thank you

alnielsen

iTrader: (4)

The rear diff isn't necessarily the problem as I understand it. It's the axles. Black Halo Racing sells some upgraded ones that will handle anything you will put down. Up to say 350 rwhp you should be fine. The next problem would be the transmission.

tex_complex

yeah im learnin the tranny problem as i'm threading throu, with the dsm it was synchro issues with the bird it was either the cam or rear end, so i'm just trying to know all i can, it'll b a while b4 i slap a s/c on it and tune, still aint decided on an auto or a manual (the lil lady doesnt do sticks and i like to drink sometimes)
but just wanted to know from the HP guys what kinda limits the rear end has b4 i gotta start crossing my fingers, i know i wont get track times like my old gsx or bird,
not look for those, just want some fun in the garage that i can take to a time atack from time to time and throw into a turn that can out run the kid that just bought one outa the dealership

TeamRX8

iTrader: (25)

That will probably come about more from posting new threads without searching, reading, and educating yourself on the facts. On any internet forum there are guaranteed to be people telling you incorrect information. Without having a lay of the land and a feel for the various characters you have no comprehension on who might offer valid advice and who might lead you astray.

The only person I know who had issues also had that axle kit, but was shearing the axle stub at the hub which that kit does not replace. Otherwise the question is basically unanswered yet IMO because nobody with that kind of power has been drag launching on sticky rubber, which is when the issue will ultimately show itself.

Otherwise based on your previous reply you likely don't understand that there will be tens of thousands of dollars involved before getting to that point. You may be better served to stay in lurk mode for the next six months following my first piece of advice at the beginning of this reply. You will have your hands full learning the basics of this particular vehicle, let alone the intricasies of power adders. There is a list a mile long of people who came and went from attempting power adders on this vehicle. You have a lot to learn, but the info is all on this forum if you care enough to seek it out.

Based on my own 16+ years of internet forum experience, posting threads like this is absolutely the wrong way of going about it.


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bse50

would you mind writing in proper english? Abbreviations, slang and lack of punctuation are ugly to read.

tex_complex

thanx teamr as i'm looking i'll probably get nowhere near the HP levels it takes to worry. i'm not going for a 9sec car anyways, the reason i'm pickin up on the s/c is the same reason i'm going with the rx-8. its a different car to learn from

bse50, what exactly do you not understand? i'm not the smartest car guy by any means but what exactly do you want me to longate for you?

bse50

Since you will post to either request or offer help to other members, putting some extra effort to make what you write easily understandable to your audience is the way to go. Proper grammar and punctuation will make your posts more accurate and easier to reply to.
It's just general advice, all the informations you need about drivetrain weaknesses and superchargers are out there already

wcs

iTrader: (2)

You could start with capital letters to start sentences.
Double spaces after periods.
What does longate mean?

Just say'n ...

tex_complex

ok people, evidently i thought i was in the company of people who understood not everyone is an english teacher. how i write and request or give information in any such substance what-so-ever is not meant for in any manner of proper grammer review. i may short-hand, use an acronym abbriviation. and if you find it in your lil heart to let the little things go by and actually answer a question that would be greatly appriciated

now i have read alot on here and still have alot to thread throu to. but sometimes just bluntly asking aloud makes it easier to understand.

atleast i'm not as blind as asking "what in the tarnation is a rotory and why does it burn more oil than that old john deer out here on ma land?"

so in short if i have an honest to goodness legit question like
1.how much power will the rear end handle before i have to worry? so when/if i decide to install a supercharger or hook a NOS bottle to it i know i'm within my limits

2. does anyone know of a company that makes a three point strut tower that bolts to the firewall for a better suspension setup?

its only cause i care to ask.
the only stupid question are the ones a person is afraid to ask.

RX8Soldier

iTrader: (24)

As far as I know, the stock transmission/drive train should be able to handle 300rwhp, for a street driven/lightly tracked 8 (as seen by other members posts).
But, as Team said, there is hardly any evidence to show that. I haven't read many people tearing down their tranny and diff to inspect wear. They are usually more focused on their engines.

edit: click this link for 3 point tower brace

wcs

iTrader: (2)

If you expect people to take time to read and respond with respect to your questions then at least show some respect to the readers/responders by putting some effort in your questions with structured sentences.

1) Nitrous has been around on the 8 since the early days ... 55 shot is safe, anything over that and you are risking the engine. A few of us ran 75 shots, at the expense of blown intake manifolds or worse, engines.

I don't think you're going to get the kind of power out a S/C that you think you are, you're a long way from braking stuff.

2) Looks like Cocksport and AutoEXE might have something ... ever heard of google? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rx8+3+point+strut+bar

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I think TeamRX8 doesn't even use a strut bar, along with a few other race guys.

tex_complex

thank you rx8 soldier. doubt i'll hit anywhere near 300+ HP. lookin more 240-260 at the moment

TeamRX8

iTrader: (25)

maybe I should have tried the "don't end up in a road side ditch" routine instead?

El Kabong

Thanks for longating

tex_complex

lol to all
anyways thanks wcs for the information. figured 50 shot was the safest from what i've been reading.
the main reason i'll go with a s/c is it looks like alot of ppl are having overheating problems with thier motors when it comes to proper placement of lines and stress on the motor.
but thats farther down the line when i get sick of the acceleration as is. wont be done same day as i buy the car for sure.

9krpmrx8

iTrader: (46)

What the hell are you talking about? Just stop man, stop.

tex_complex

ugh, great, what did i insult or get wrong now?

wcs

iTrader: (2)

I'm guessing ... but the statement is confusing.
You're going S/C as it looks like a lot of ppl are having overheating problems ...
VS what? Turbo Charging?
Or you are going to do S/C because of the challenge of ppl having overheating problems and stress issues?
Or you don't believe S/C has heat issues?

Where did you get this information, that these are issues or not issues .... crap I've confused myself now.

tex_complex

lol from what i have been reading, alot of guys have been having trouble with the oil cooling lines and such too close to the turbo ducting or downpipe and such, i understand the s/c is gonna have its issues also, not saying one is easier than the other tenfold, just seems for output im lookin for the s/c would be the easier of the two headaches to deal with. plus i'm talking way down the line not tomorrow. i've got experience with both on different platforms. i understand the rotory is a different animal in all its own right. just reading and asking questions and evidently no matter what i say something is gonna be taken outa context.

so lets keep this simple. i like the car. i'm getting one here soon. if anyone has any good pointers on what they believe i'm looking to do to it i will gladly accept your opinion on the matter. if not well theres no reason to comment then. others will.

Turblown

No issues here, we even hardline the turbo oil & coolant feed/return lines...

Brettus

iTrader: (2)

I believe the problems you are talking about are in reference to top mount turbos. Low mount style does not have that particular issue . Fact is you will have issues no matter what power adder method you choose however.

Check out the Highest FI dyno thread if you want to compare SC vs turbo .

tex_complex

thank you guys

9krpmrx8

iTrader: (46)

The problem is that you may be reading but you are not comprehending anything. This is obvious in your posts. I suggest you post less and read more (and I mean read, don't skip to the posts with pictures).

tex_complex

well thank you 9kr, didnt know i had the automobile intelligence of a 12 year old. but in that case i'll go pick up a picture book after i tuck my lil man in and just ignore the words while i drink my beer and figure outa whitch color do i want my car in.

but first i'll go read turblown and brettus's car info and see how well something work with each other for the sake of interest

shr3da

LOL ^ another classic thread for laughs