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keljon 11-17-2011 03:29 PM

what turbo's are a good upgrade for the Greddy kit
 
i have managed to source a brand new Greddy manifold at a good price so wondering what turbo to get, ideally something that has the T25 flange and will physically fit in the t618z location, not bothered about having to fabricate the downpipe as i don't have the Greddy one anyway. I am in the UK so Garrett turbos tend to be readily available here, would a T28 be too small? there are a lot of Nissans here running T28 hybrids etc and i know the T28 has the T25 flange

9krpmrx8 11-17-2011 03:31 PM

Search noob.

keljon 11-17-2011 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4127329)
Search noob.

i hate the way when you ask a simple question, u get flamed for not searching, i have read and read for hours, i know that MM does an upgraded kit using the 3071 and that BNR do an upgrade for the T618Z but i am asking what standard off the shelf turbos are a good size and will physically fit (both the mounting flange) and in the limited space

9krpmrx8 11-17-2011 03:49 PM

If you had researched, you would understand the layout and installation requirements of the Greddy kit and you would be able to figure this out on your own. You are not talking about upgrading the T618Z, you are talking about using a whole different turbo all together. Sizing a particular turbo for a certain application is complicated.

keljon 11-17-2011 04:09 PM

which is exactly why i started this thread to see what turbos other people are using and recommend, i can see now why you have such a high post count, you blatantly post when you have nothing useful to say :jerkit:




Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4127350)
If you had researched, you would understand the layout and installation requirements of the Greddy kit and you would be able to figure this out on your own. You are not talking about upgrading the T618Z, you are talking about using a whole different turbo all together. Sizing a particular turbo for a certain application is complicated.


9krpmrx8 11-17-2011 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by keljon (Post 4127373)
which is exactly why i started this thread to see what turbos other people are using and recommend, i can see now why you have such a high post count, you blatantly post when you have nothing useful to say :jerkit:

You don't need to start a thread to determine that. You just need to read the threads that already exist. As a matter of fact there is a "sticky" thread outlines what each person is running. If you had searched, you would have found that thread. But you did not because you are NOOB who wants to be spoon fed information instead of taking the time to read.

tofu_box 11-18-2011 05:56 AM

now now, no need to get so hyped up :P

My search of a broken bolt however showed your name everywhere :P dunno why

bse50 11-18-2011 06:00 AM

Lack of research aside you forgot to tell us why you want to upgrade the turbo and what your goals are.
Once you have that tackled go to garrett's website and have a look at the flow charts.
After that see if said turbo will fit or not.

Brettus 11-18-2011 12:01 PM

GTX 3076R

next question LOL

9krpmrx8 11-18-2011 01:34 PM

:lol: I am not hyped up, just sick up noobs who think this www.spoonfeedthenoobs.com.


I can see him now buying a GTX3076R off the shelf and then coming back complaining that it doesn't just bolt on.

tofu_box 11-18-2011 02:12 PM

love the avatar pic btw

Brettus 11-18-2011 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4128042)
I can see him now buying a GTX3076R off the shelf and then coming back complaining that it doesn't just bolt on.

true - but then he has a GTX3076R :smoker:

9krpmrx8 11-18-2011 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by tofu_box (Post 4128077)
love the avatar pic btw


Thanks, it was a donation from another member :lol:

Turblown 11-18-2011 02:54 PM

If you are willing to weld a different flange to the turbine housing of a GTX3076R that would be the way to go, personally I would stuff it into a smaller compressor housing( like a to4B or something) to make it fit without a serious effort. We have these turbos in stock( and can put them into the smaller compressor housing)...

MazdaManiac 11-18-2011 06:29 PM

Uh, 3576.
30 is too small.

keljon 11-19-2011 06:20 AM

what turbo flange is on the Greddy manifold? is it a T25?

bse50 11-19-2011 08:21 AM

A quick google search revealed that...

keljon 11-20-2011 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by bse50 (Post 4128441)
A quick google search revealed that...

so what you are saying is i'm not allowed to post on this forum unless i have exhausted all other possibilities first
:jerkit:

bse50 11-20-2011 09:59 AM

You can't post OT questions just because you're too lazy and\or stupid to search

RX8Soldier 11-21-2011 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by keljon (Post 4128853)
so what you are saying is i'm not allowed to post on this forum unless i have exhausted all other possibilities first
:jerkit:

pretty much. Or, at least make a basic effort.
Or, you can post all you like, and accept the response you get

keljon 11-22-2011 03:49 AM


Originally Posted by RX8Soldier (Post 4129628)
pretty much. Or, at least make a basic effort.
Or, you can post all you like, and accept the response you get

i am really suprised at the hostility from you guys, i did search for a couple hours and yeah there is loads if info but sometimes its good to start a thread and get all of that info together

bse50 11-22-2011 04:10 AM


Originally Posted by keljon (Post 4130314)
i am really suprised at the hostility from you guys, i did search for a couple hours and yeah there is loads if info but sometimes its good to start a thread and get all of that info together

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/cooling-dos-do-nots-suggestions-225734/
This is an extremely good example of a guy putting some effort to get info together, just like the misfire thread that nobody ever really uses.
Using members as google substitutes is another story.

AAaF 11-22-2011 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by keljon (Post 4130314)
i am really suprised at the hostility from you guys, i did search for a couple hours and yeah there is loads if info but sometimes its good to start a thread and get all of that info together

Shows that you haven't been reading this forum alot. Hostility is endless here. Often you have the feeling that you're not supposed to ask unless you already know the answer. And if you have the answer you might ask, then follow up by not tell anyone, just explain how stupid all the others are who haven't figured it.

Sometimes you get real good info though, problem is that it's wrapped in arguing and general BS.

bse50 11-22-2011 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by AAaF (Post 4130368)
Shows that you haven't been reading this forum alot. Hostility is endless here. Often you have the feeling that you're not supposed to ask unless you already know the answer. And if you have the answer you might ask, then follow up by not tell anyone, just explain how stupid all the others are who haven't figured it.

Sometimes you get real good info though, problem is that it's wrapped in arguing and general BS.


Ignorant men raise questions that wise men answered a thousand years ago.
- Goethe
Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers.
-Voltaire

TeamRX8 11-22-2011 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by keljon (Post 4130314)
i am really suprised at the hostility from you guys, i did search for a couple hours and yeah there is loads if info but sometimes its good to start a thread and get all of that info together



This involves several issues. The first being that you can't see beyond your own immediate needs and wants. This is not Wiki8Club. It took many of us years and years of involvement and reading to amass the knowledge. Imagine somebody coming here daily, in fact it is often multiple people daily, asking if not demanding the same information over and over again. We are not your on demand servants. We are people just like you with other priorities and demands in our lives, limited time, our own personal interests for being here, etc. Why should we spend that time catering to people that come here seeking instant gratification? That leaves us with two options. We can either ignore you completely or we can tell that the info is here if you bother to make the effort. However, over several years of telling people this you eventually get fed up dealing with the continuous stream of people seeking instant gratification yet you still would rather point them in the right direction so you just bark at them to get the point across. Imagine someone coming to your house, going to your living room, pulling their pants down, and taking a dump right there on the carpet just because they didn't know any better. You might be annoyed and yet also understanding because they didnt know any better. Now imagine this being a different person doing this every day. It wouldn't be long before you just as soon they go away and never come back. Almost every day there is some clueless dolt posting a tech or troubleshooting question in the DiY area, despite there being a sticky thread at the top saying to only post threads there with DIY instructions and subsequent discussion of same. The real issue is that people think they are free to just come here and do as they damn well please and theres no need for ettiquete, rules, structure, or organization unless it serves their own personal interest. Well guess what? We're not here to cater to new uninnformed people that come in here trampling all over everything regardless if they're ignorant, just don't care, or whatever. This is like any social community and so if you make waves you better expect to deal with it. If you don't like it then get the f' out because the established community could care less about some newbie whining about not getting what they want immediately. We do care about you clogging up the search engine with useless threads on already established subjects, which there is a dedicated thread on this very subject in this same forum area no less. It took me 10 minutes to e plain this. Now imagine multiple people daily requiring it, so you make a Sticky thread at the top that says "read this first" and yet every single new person just like yourself thinks they are beyond trying to fit in properly so that this forum operates smoothly for all of us. You probably don't read Japanese, but the line in my sig is a well known Japanese proverb that reads "the nail that sticks out gets hammered". You made yourself that nail.

RIWWP 11-22-2011 09:43 AM

Team,

Fantastic post.


Can I quote it and use it elsewhere? :suspect:

9krpmrx8 11-22-2011 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4130470)
Team,

Fantastic post.


Can I quote it and use it elsewhere? :suspect:


I already edited it and used it elsewhere :lol:

RIWWP 11-22-2011 09:58 AM

Ok Team, if you object, blame 9k :D:

TeamRX8 11-22-2011 10:01 AM

It needed to be edited and polished, but I already spent too much time on posting from my iPwn so go ahead and hammer away ...

.

Atilla 11-22-2011 10:36 AM

+1 on excellent post.

I'm saving it and probably going to use it...

keljon 11-23-2011 03:26 AM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4130444)
This involves several issues. The first being that you can't see beyond your own immediate needs and wants. This is not Wiki8Club. It took many of us years and years of involvement and reading to amass the knowledge. Imagine somebody coming here daily, in fact it is often multiple people daily, asking if not demanding the same information over and over again. We are not your on demand servants. We are people just like you with other priorities and demands in our lives, limited time, our own personal interests for being here, etc. Why should we spend that time catering to people that come here seeking instant gratification? That leaves us with two options. We can either ignore you completely or we can tell that the info is here if you bother to make the effort. However, over several years of telling people this you eventually get fed up dealing with the continuous stream of people seeking instant gratification yet you still would rather point them in the right direction so you just bark at them to get the point across. Imagine someone coming to your house, going to your living room, pulling their pants down, and taking a dump right there on the carpet just because they didn't know any better. You might be annoyed and yet also understanding because they didnt know any better. Now imagine this being a different person doing this every day. It wouldn't be long before you just as soon they go away and never come back. Almost every day there is some clueless dolt posting a tech or troubleshooting question in the DiY area, despite there being a sticky thread at the top saying to only post threads there with DIY instructions and subsequent discussion of same. The real issue is that people think they are free to just come here and do as they damn well please and theres no need for ettiquete, rules, structure, or organization unless it serves their own personal interest. Well guess what? We're not here to cater to new uninnformed people that come in here trampling all over everything regardless if they're ignorant, just don't care, or whatever. This is like any social community and so if you make waves you better expect to deal with it. If you don't like it then get the f' out because the established community could care less about some newbie whining about not getting what they want immediately. We do care about you clogging up the search engine with useless threads on already established subjects, which there is a dedicated thread on this very subject in this same forum area no less. It took me 10 minutes to e plain this. Now imagine multiple people daily requiring it, so you make a Sticky thread at the top that says "read this first" and yet every single new person just like yourself thinks they are beyond trying to fit in properly so that this forum operates smoothly for all of us. You probably don't read Japanese, but the line in my sig is a well known Japanese proverb that reads "the nail that sticks out gets hammered". You made yourself that nail.

what i really dont understand is, if you feel my question is benath your amazing RX8 wizdom that you have spent many years collecting then just dont reply, why take all the trouble to write the reply above, surely thats as big a waste of your precious time.........

keljon 11-23-2011 03:39 AM

from doing a lot more reading, i bet i would have got a completely different response if i had titled my thread DIY Turbo build and then explained i had a Greddy manifold but nothing else


Originally Posted by bse50 (Post 4130372)
Ignorant men raise questions that wise men answered a thousand years ago.
- Goethe
Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers.
-Voltaire


keljon 11-23-2011 03:41 AM

Knowledge is embodied in people gathered in communities and networks. The road to knowledge is via people, conversations, connections and relationships. Knowledge surfaces through dialog, all knowledge is socially mediated and access to knowledge is by connecting to people that know or know who to contact.
Denham Grey

bse50 11-23-2011 05:06 AM

You're comparing this guy to Voltaire and Goethe?
Oh gosh, you just made more than 3 centuries of literature and philosophy die. People should read less internet crap and more real books.

sjschutz 11-23-2011 09:03 AM

Haha, this thread is sad...

OP - You asked what size flange is on the Greddy, which could of been answered though the simplest of Google searches. Yes, the experts here usually have the answers and information you need but it took them years and years to learn these things. They don't often freely impart it to other people who show an apathy for doing the research themselves.

sjschutz 11-23-2011 09:07 AM

Also, considering there is a dedicated Greddy FAQ sticky AT THE TOP OF THIS SUBFORUM, you are not going to get any respect making threads like this.

RIWWP 11-23-2011 09:11 AM

Why are we so hard / harsh on newbies?
You may notice that many new owners join this forum and promptly create a thread that generates lots of negative feedback from the people already here, the newbie ends up getting butthurt about it and claims it's a "mean forum" or "we are all dicks", etc... But why do we do it?

Here is a fantastic post from TeamRX8 on why.

Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4130444)
This involves several issues. The first being that you can't see beyond your own immediate needs and wants. This is not Wiki8Club. It took many of us years and years of involvement and reading to amass the knowledge.

Imagine somebody coming here daily, in fact it is often multiple people daily, asking if not demanding the same information over and over again. We are not your on demand servants. We are people just like you with other priorities and demands in our lives, limited time, our own personal interests for being here, etc. Why should we spend that time catering to people that come here seeking instant gratification?

That leaves us with two options. We can either ignore you completely or we can tell that the info is here if you bother to make the effort. However, over several years of telling people this you eventually get fed up dealing with the continuous stream of people seeking instant gratification yet you still would rather point them in the right direction so you just bark at them to get the point across. Imagine someone coming to your house, going to your living room, pulling their pants down, and taking a dump right there on the carpet just because they didn't know any better. You might be annoyed and yet also understanding because they didn't know any better. Now imagine this being a different person doing this every day. It wouldn't be long before you just as soon they go away and never come back.

Almost every day there is some clueless dolt posting a tech or troubleshooting question in the DiY area, despite there being a sticky thread at the top saying to only post threads there with DIY instructions and subsequent discussion of same. The real issue is that people think they are free to just come here and do as they damn well please and there's no need for etiquette, rules, structure, or organization unless it serves their own personal interest.

Well guess what? We're not here to cater to new uninformed people that come in here trampling all over everything regardless if they're ignorant, just don't care, or whatever. This is like any social community and so if you make waves you better expect to deal with it. If you don't like it then get the f' out because the established community could care less about some newbie whining about not getting what they want immediately. We do care about you clogging up the search engine with useless threads on already established subjects, which there is a dedicated thread on this very subject in this same forum area no less. It took me 10 minutes to explain this. Now imagine multiple people daily requiring it, so you make a Sticky thread at the top that says "read this first" and yet every single new person just like yourself thinks they are beyond trying to fit in properly so that this forum operates smoothly for all of us.

You probably don't read Japanese, but the line in my sig is a well known Japanese proverb that reads "the nail that sticks out gets hammered". You made yourself that nail.


Most of the people that are being the hammer for those nails use either the New Posts feature (https://www.rx8club.com/search.php?do=getnew) or the Live! feature (https://www.rx8club.com/misc.php?product=vblive) (both are in your top bar under the banner), and see posts with issues pretty quickly. We do not use these features with the express intention of flaming and bashing. We use them so that when someone posts up an actual issue that needs actual help, we can react quickly to their request.

We do not do this because we are paid to do it, we do it because we believe in our community (at one level or another). We want to improve it and make it better, so as we have time during our normal lives we look for issues we can help with, we look for new ideas, new projects, etc... But, in the process, we see all the garbage that people clutter the forum with because they feel themselves above reading what has already been posted, and that garbage gets to us.

Brettus 11-23-2011 11:38 AM

Also :
consider it an initiation ceremony . If you get so hurt you disappear from the forum - then we probably did ourselves a favour .
If you stick around then you have shown you can 'take it'. :)

ssspeedfreak 11-23-2011 12:23 PM

Why did you rattle Team up! No good will come your way. Read, learn and viable given information is responded very differently here.

Chris 11-23-2011 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4130444)
............. You probably don't read Japanese, but the line in my sig is a well known Japanese proverb that reads "the nail that sticks out gets hammered". You made yourself that nail.

Tokyo drift :lol:

TeamRX8 11-24-2011 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by keljon (Post 4131096)
what i really dont understand is, if you feel my question is benath your amazing RX8 wizdom that you have spent many years collecting then just dont reply, why take all the trouble to write the reply above, surely thats as big a waste of your precious time.........



You don't understand plenty:

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...43&postcount=8


But I am doing my best to try and teach you. If someone else wants to serve you off of a silver platter that's their right ...



.

AAaF 11-25-2011 04:18 AM


Originally Posted by bse50 (Post 4130372)
Ignorant men raise questions that wise men answered a thousand years ago.
- Goethe


If someone else wants to serve you off of a silver platter that's their right ...
Well, some basics still needs to be learned. And if everyone was gonna invent the wheel for them selves, where would technology be today? The point is to share facts, so that everybody(well; as many as possible) can contribute to find out things that haven't been resolved yet.

Thats statistic: The more people doing a certain thing, the greater is the chance that there is a genius among them. It also drives the common level higher. Try to find a good American football player in Europe - not easy, because not so many doing it. (Some would say lack of steroids is a factor as well, but you get my point:))

bse50 11-25-2011 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by AAaF (Post 4132257)
Well, some basics still needs to be learned. And if everyone was gonna invent the wheel for them selves, where would technology be today? The point is to share facts, so that everybody(well; as many as possible) can contribute to find out things that haven't been resolved yet.

Thats statistic: The more people doing a certain thing, the greater is the chance that there is a genius among them. It also drives the common level higher. Try to find a good American football player in Europe - not easy, because not so many doing it. (Some would say lack of steroids is a factor as well, but you get my point:))

You're right but what if all the answers are already contained in this forum's database? Shall we waste our time writing things all over again then? Telling to search or that something can be found on google still helps the lazy user.

By stating that there are no good football players in europe you're actually offending me, lol!

AAaF 11-25-2011 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by bse50 (Post 4132258)
You're right but what if all the answers are already contained in this forum's database? Shall we waste our time writing things all over again then? Telling to search or that something can be found on google still helps the lazy user.

By stating that there are no good football players in europe you're actually offending me, lol!

I definitively see your point, but often it's a problem to find the info your searching, then it is of great help to just get a link from one that knows a good thread or similar. Give a link usually takes less time than all "you f****n noob:rant:"- answers around here. Ignore question takes even less time.

We Europeans are best at whatever the others aren't good at - that makes things a lot easier:)

bse50 11-25-2011 05:52 AM

Bottom feeders ftw!

You're right anyway that giving a link is easy. The problem is that, to provide the user with that link, you have to SEARCH. Why would I search for something that doesn't interest me?
Just tell'em to search.
The flange question was also utterly stupid and, just out of curiosity, it took me something like 2 minutes to look it up on google. I'm not a genius so if I can do it, any user hopefully can.

TeamRX8 11-25-2011 06:26 AM

Nobody becomes a proficient swimmer by standing at the edge of the pool.

blakerx87 05-25-2012 09:15 PM

:evil_laug To be honest I am Wondering the same thing yes we would need to change the flange but it is possible MM upgraded the kit by changeing the flange and remounting the w/g in a diffrent place. I more concerned ab what turbo's going to spool fast but not fall off topend :evil_laug

AAaF 05-29-2012 03:33 AM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4132275)
Nobody becomes a proficient swimmer by standing at the edge of the pool.

But don't jump off an airplane without a parachute..

Chris 05-29-2012 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4132275)
Nobody becomes a proficient swimmer by standing at the edge of the pool.

no one drowns by standing on the edge of the pool either :rofl:


... had to do it.

alkosinski 05-29-2012 02:47 PM

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....rbo_250-op.jpg

This turbo looks like a nice upgrade.


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