The Turblown Turbo System Differences
12-14-2011, 10:48 PM
#26
I meant next to the engine with the shortest most direct exhaust piping, whatever you want to call it
The v mount minimizes IC piping length between the turbo and the TB and also allows uninhibited flow to both it and the radiator while also allowing direct easy intake piping to the compressor and airflow to the filter. It would require completely reconfiguring the radiator setup and also cutting a big hole in the hood with duct (GT40 style) for the IC to exhaust out.
It would roughly duplicate an FD3 setup a racing friend built on his SSM class race car. The SSM class is for 2-seat sports cars like the FD3 and SM is for 4-seat sedans which is where the RX-8 is classed. His divided manifold/turbo setup us making impressive power and torque at low rpm, almost too much. After studying his car it should be possible on the RX8 but our chassis doesnt have as much space between the engine and chassis as the FD3 has and again the RH engine mount bracket would need a complete redesign. I had some pics of it but can't find them.
The v mount minimizes IC piping length between the turbo and the TB and also allows uninhibited flow to both it and the radiator while also allowing direct easy intake piping to the compressor and airflow to the filter. It would require completely reconfiguring the radiator setup and also cutting a big hole in the hood with duct (GT40 style) for the IC to exhaust out.
It would roughly duplicate an FD3 setup a racing friend built on his SSM class race car. The SSM class is for 2-seat sports cars like the FD3 and SM is for 4-seat sedans which is where the RX-8 is classed. His divided manifold/turbo setup us making impressive power and torque at low rpm, almost too much. After studying his car it should be possible on the RX8 but our chassis doesnt have as much space between the engine and chassis as the FD3 has and again the RH engine mount bracket would need a complete redesign. I had some pics of it but can't find them.
12-15-2011, 12:07 AM
#30
I meant next to the engine with the shortest most direct exhaust piping, whatever you want to call it
The v mount minimizes IC piping length between the turbo and the TB and also allows uninhibited flow to both it and the radiator while also allowing direct easy intake piping to the compressor and airflow to the filter. It would require completely reconfiguring the radiator setup and also cutting a big hole in the hood with duct (GT40 style) for the IC to exhaust out.
The v mount minimizes IC piping length between the turbo and the TB and also allows uninhibited flow to both it and the radiator while also allowing direct easy intake piping to the compressor and airflow to the filter. It would require completely reconfiguring the radiator setup and also cutting a big hole in the hood with duct (GT40 style) for the IC to exhaust out.
The piping is even shorter than in your example and doesn't require that the rad be moved at all. IC outlet temps are 15°F over ambient in boost.
12-15-2011, 12:17 AM
#34
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Both setups fit without modifying the sheet metal..
So thats what your setup looks like.. Now post the dyno sheet
I thought you said it was a P trim? That looks like a T31 housing to me...?
So thats what your setup looks like.. Now post the dyno sheet
I thought you said it was a P trim? That looks like a T31 housing to me...?
12-15-2011, 12:30 AM
#38
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@9krpmrx8
Straight Garrett T3 BB GT35R. I am playing around with different sizes, packages etc. I am currently working on a Tial 1.03 version, and a Comp turbo oil-less system.
Obviously this requires a completely new motor mount bracket.
Not sure exactly on pricing yet, but I am figuring $2000~ish for the manifold, down-pipe and motor mount..
Straight Garrett T3 BB GT35R. I am playing around with different sizes, packages etc. I am currently working on a Tial 1.03 version, and a Comp turbo oil-less system.
Obviously this requires a completely new motor mount bracket.
Not sure exactly on pricing yet, but I am figuring $2000~ish for the manifold, down-pipe and motor mount..
12-15-2011, 12:33 AM
#40
@9krpmrx8
Straight Garrett T3 BB GT35R. I am playing around with different sizes, packages etc. I am currently working on a Tial 1.03 version, and a Comp turbo oil-less system.
Obviously this requires a completely new motor mount bracket.
Not sure exactly on pricing yet, but I am figuring $2000~ish for the manifold, down-pipe and motor mount..
Straight Garrett T3 BB GT35R. I am playing around with different sizes, packages etc. I am currently working on a Tial 1.03 version, and a Comp turbo oil-less system.
Obviously this requires a completely new motor mount bracket.
Not sure exactly on pricing yet, but I am figuring $2000~ish for the manifold, down-pipe and motor mount..
do you have anything that demonstrates fitment on the engine or in the chassis?
12-15-2011, 12:47 AM
#42
I'm trying to understand your view since both systems are functionally identical, with the exception of mine having shorter piping.
The ICs are similar in size (though mine doesn't require the air to make a turn in the end tanks), the cooling airflow is identical, the piping on my example has fewer cuts/bends and the bends it does have are more gentle.
The inlet piping is nearly identical in length and the exhaust path is similar.
The ICs are similar in size (though mine doesn't require the air to make a turn in the end tanks), the cooling airflow is identical, the piping on my example has fewer cuts/bends and the bends it does have are more gentle.
The inlet piping is nearly identical in length and the exhaust path is similar.
12-15-2011, 12:52 AM
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Man id be interested in that Low mount manifold!!! I currently have a greddy kit with the 3071R, and debating going top mount or just building a V mount intercooler set up similar to MM.. hopefully ill start working on it during the summer when i get me a welder, and move into my new place. that manifold looks real nice.
12-15-2011, 12:53 AM
#46
Dude. Cut the crap, forget your blind, enraged hatred of all things me and have an intelligent conversation for a second.
Please?
We all have plenty to learn and I am just not seeing where the two examples are divergent, except for the mid-mount turbo in the FD vs. the low-mount in the RX-8 and the latter's smooth flow-path.
Please?
We all have plenty to learn and I am just not seeing where the two examples are divergent, except for the mid-mount turbo in the FD vs. the low-mount in the RX-8 and the latter's smooth flow-path.
12-15-2011, 12:56 AM
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Dude. Cut the crap, forget your blind, enraged hatred of all things me and have an intelligent conversation for a second.
Please?
We all have plenty to learn and I am just not seeing where the two examples are divergent, except for the mid-mount turbo in the FD vs. the low-mount in the RX-8 and the latter's smooth flow-path.
Please?
We all have plenty to learn and I am just not seeing where the two examples are divergent, except for the mid-mount turbo in the FD vs. the low-mount in the RX-8 and the latter's smooth flow-path.
12-15-2011, 01:02 AM
#48
Dude. Cut the crap, forget your blind, enraged hatred of all things me and have an intelligent conversation for a second.
Please?
We all have plenty to learn and I am just not seeing where the two examples are divergent, except for the mid-mount turbo in the FD vs. the low-mount in the RX-8 and the latter's smooth flow-path.
Please?
We all have plenty to learn and I am just not seeing where the two examples are divergent, except for the mid-mount turbo in the FD vs. the low-mount in the RX-8 and the latter's smooth flow-path.
Not at all. I haven't said anything negative about you or what you are doing, just that I have a different idea.
You are making a comparison like you have a pic of a system built by me, all you have is a pic of an FD3 showing something similar to what I would like to do. You are making assumptions about something you haven't seen. In fact, it doesn't yet exist.
I have nothing to show, hence nothing to discuss. It's that simple. You are the one pressing me, not the other way around.
Just because I think you are a terrible excuse for doing business with as a vendor has nothing to do with how I perceive you as individual. This is just more schizoid paranoia no different than you attempting to harass and intimidate me via text the other evening.
so yeah, please ...
12-15-2011, 01:11 AM
#49
You are making a comparison like you have a pic of a system built by me, all you have is a pic of an FD3 showing something similar to what I would like to do. You are making assumptions about something you haven't seen. In fact, it doesn't yet exist.
I have nothing to show, hence nothing to discuss. It's that simple. You are the one pressing me, not the other way around.
I have nothing to show, hence nothing to discuss. It's that simple. You are the one pressing me, not the other way around.
Uh, whut?
12-15-2011, 01:39 AM
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@9krpmrx8
Straight Garrett T3 BB GT35R. I am playing around with different sizes, packages etc. I am currently working on a Tial 1.03 version, and a Comp turbo oil-less system.
Obviously this requires a completely new motor mount bracket.
Not sure exactly on pricing yet, but I am figuring $2000~ish for the manifold, down-pipe and motor mount..
Straight Garrett T3 BB GT35R. I am playing around with different sizes, packages etc. I am currently working on a Tial 1.03 version, and a Comp turbo oil-less system.
Obviously this requires a completely new motor mount bracket.
Not sure exactly on pricing yet, but I am figuring $2000~ish for the manifold, down-pipe and motor mount..
I'm not interested in a top mount, I love this idea though.Oil-less turbo = awesome. I don't even want to know the price of one of those
