Thinking of Greddy Turbo
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Thinking of Greddy Turbo
I'm worried of the quality of it though.. Most people who have it seem to be spending over 500 $ just to fix the kit. Has greddy fixed any bugs from the previous gens
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I'll tell you in a nice way before someone jumps all over you.......use the search box bro. There are tons of posts that answer your question. You may change your mind about the kit once you see how many have been for sale on here.
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^ i've actually done my research. Most would probably say go with Mazsport Stage 1 kit, or the PTP kit or heck even get a supercharger. But i can't really afford those kits. Some people love there greddy kits some people like Fanman have spent tons of money just to fix his kit. One thing i couldnt find out was If they have fixed any previous problems that the kit had when it 1st came out
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The kit now comes with e-manage ultimate which helps a lot from what I read. And the greddy turbo just needs good tuning, and perhaps a few new parts to replace lower quality ones.
Bah, just wait for mysql101 to post.
Bah, just wait for mysql101 to post.
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Taking a car from stock to turbo is not as cheap as buying a kit. If you buy a Mazsport type one kit, which is probably the most inclusive turbo kit you will ever find, you are still going to want gauges, a new clutch at some point, tuning, installation, and maybe some bells and whistles. The greddy kit, you going to want the same things, a couple things included with the mazsport kit that aren't in the greddy, and some replacement parts if the greddy ones are shitty (like couplers). If your goal is something like 250 rwhp, the best kit to buy is probably te Greddy. You can achieve that with a Greddy for about.....what......5k$? The Mazsport kit is awesome, but isn't necessary till you are looking at 300 rwhp. The mazsport kit is a better kit from top to bottom, but you gotta ask yourself are you buying a Ferrari when all you do is commute to work? A Honda will still get you there.
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I'm worried of the quality of it though.. Most people who have it seem to be spending over 500 $ just to fix the kit. Has greddy fixed any bugs from the previous gens
http://rotaryinsider.com/rx8-9.html
Keep in mind most of these upgrades would apply to any kit you get (gauges, boost controller, etc).
Out of the box the new greddy kit isn't too bad. You'll just want to make sure you replace the hoses or they will burst. The oil restrictor is also a good investment.
Mazsport's kit is more complete, and makes more power, but your budget needs to have about $10,000 available at a minimum for their Type-1 kit.
It's all a matter of what your budget can allow, and what price to performance ratio will satisfy you. Also keep in mind that you will seldom just install a turbo kit and be done. Expect to have additional costs afterwards for upgrades.
And the scary part – make sure you can also afford to have your engine rebuilt if something goes wrong. No kit will be 100%. Not always the kits fault either. Your engine might have had detonation a long time back, and the turbo further weakens the seal till it blows under boost.
Originally Posted by maxxdamigz
If your goal is something like 250 rwhp, the best kit to buy is probably te Greddy. You can achieve that with a Greddy for about.....what......5k$? The Mazsport kit is awesome, but isn't necessary till you are looking at 300 rwhp.
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i am with max... bro i have had my greddy got about 7 mounth and i have to say i love it .... changed the couplers for about 150 and got the interX from mazsport for 1300 used and i am in a good shape bro... i put down 250 rwhp and i have to say i didn't go all out on the tune....but keep one thing in mind.... once you go turbo.... you have to spend $ on everything... i mean you are going to need gauges and boost controller and ........ then you need tunning the most $ part here i have to spend about 150/ an hour for Ray to tune it but he is goos so that is ok ....
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I like my greddy kit, besides being the cheapest kit you get really good gains. I haven't had any problems with my kit so far (knock on wood). I am running the kit right out of the box. I am planning on getting it tuned shortly. I run 14.4 at the track with 20s, so when it all comes down to it its not a bad kit for the price in my opinion.
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Those of us who were early Greddy owners spent a lot of time and money working out issues. The kit seems to me to be quite a bargain now. You just have to understand that once you get a taste of FI you are going to want to keep turning up the boost! The Greddy turbo is too small to hold boost over 6-7psi or so at higher RPM (depending on altitude).
The Greddy turbo kit shouldn't even be compared to the Mazsport/SFR kits. They have different goals. The Greddy is a intro kit - a 60% gain in whp for 5 grand or so. The bigboy kits are 100% gain in whp for >$8k.
The Greddy turbo kit shouldn't even be compared to the Mazsport/SFR kits. They have different goals. The Greddy is a intro kit - a 60% gain in whp for 5 grand or so. The bigboy kits are 100% gain in whp for >$8k.
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Originally Posted by rkostolni
Most of the people not liking the Greddy kit are still running the Emanage blue (ahem, Fanman).
Yep, the EManage Blue was junk, so were the hoses and couplers. Also, in the kit the pipe going into the intake was missing, and Greddy customer service was terrible, and completely ridiculous to work with. The turbo, while OK is just really an off the shelf standard turbo that they stick with a lot of their kits. It's an OK, standard bushing turbo. There have been a few failures, and Greddy has been ridiculous and blaming the users on this. Some kits are good coming out of the box, some are not. But the SC kits coming out are not going to be that much more expensive, and you will probably save a bit as the install will be a bit easier. Not to mention in working with Petit or Mazsport (turbokit) they are far, far better with customers.
I have the kit on my car, so the people thinking I shouldn't be negative, can for lack of a better statement "kiss my butt." if you think I am being unfair. Until you have had dealings with Greddy because they basically screwed you on your parts, and their quality control issues, you don't know what a PITA it is to deal with this company. On getting my HKS parts, the dealings were like night & day. If you ever have a problem with your kit, good luck dealing with them. Until you have done it then you can come back to me with your rosy recommendations. They threw a kit out there, and basically made the 1st adopters fix the numerous problems for them, then basically stole the fixes (ala MM's), so now the kit is what it should have been when it first came out, but even then you can't hide poor quality control, and customer service. Do yourself a favor, save the money and get something that will make you much happier as a daily driver. I would never give up the extra power & torque I got from the kit, but I would have gone about it in a far different way.
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Originally Posted by Vtecvick
I think i"m better off going all N/A then putting a 55 - 75 shot kit on it.
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Actually I'm using something about as far away from the EManage Blue as you can get (think...stand alone FMU).
Yep, the EManage Blue was junk, so were the hoses and couplers. Also, in the kit the pipe going into the intake was missing, and Greddy customer service was terrible, and completely ridiculous to work with. The turbo, while OK is just really an off the shelf standard turbo that they stick with a lot of their kits. It's an OK, standard bushing turbo. There have been a few failures, and Greddy has been ridiculous and blaming the users on this. Some kits are good coming out of the box, some are not. But the SC kits coming out are not going to be that much more expensive, and you will probably save a bit as the install will be a bit easier. Not to mention in working with Petit or Mazsport (turbokit) they are far, far better with customers.
I have the kit on my car, so the people thinking I shouldn't be negative, can for lack of a better statement "kiss my butt." if you think I am being unfair. Until you have had dealings with Greddy because they basically screwed you on your parts, and their quality control issues, you don't know what a PITA it is to deal with this company. On getting my HKS parts, the dealings were like night & day. If you ever have a problem with your kit, good luck dealing with them. Until you have done it then you can come back to me with your rosy recommendations. They threw a kit out there, and basically made the 1st adopters fix the numerous problems for them, then basically stole the fixes (ala MM's), so now the kit is what it should have been when it first came out, but even then you can't hide poor quality control, and customer service. Do yourself a favor, save the money and get something that will make you much happier as a daily driver. I would never give up the extra power & torque I got from the kit, but I would have gone about it in a far different way.
Yep, the EManage Blue was junk, so were the hoses and couplers. Also, in the kit the pipe going into the intake was missing, and Greddy customer service was terrible, and completely ridiculous to work with. The turbo, while OK is just really an off the shelf standard turbo that they stick with a lot of their kits. It's an OK, standard bushing turbo. There have been a few failures, and Greddy has been ridiculous and blaming the users on this. Some kits are good coming out of the box, some are not. But the SC kits coming out are not going to be that much more expensive, and you will probably save a bit as the install will be a bit easier. Not to mention in working with Petit or Mazsport (turbokit) they are far, far better with customers.
I have the kit on my car, so the people thinking I shouldn't be negative, can for lack of a better statement "kiss my butt." if you think I am being unfair. Until you have had dealings with Greddy because they basically screwed you on your parts, and their quality control issues, you don't know what a PITA it is to deal with this company. On getting my HKS parts, the dealings were like night & day. If you ever have a problem with your kit, good luck dealing with them. Until you have done it then you can come back to me with your rosy recommendations. They threw a kit out there, and basically made the 1st adopters fix the numerous problems for them, then basically stole the fixes (ala MM's), so now the kit is what it should have been when it first came out, but even then you can't hide poor quality control, and customer service. Do yourself a favor, save the money and get something that will make you much happier as a daily driver. I would never give up the extra power & torque I got from the kit, but I would have gone about it in a far different way.
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I see a lot of people using the Greddy kit with the Int-x. Obviously it is better than the Ultimate... but does Mazsport preload a map for the Greddy kit?
The reason I'm asking... is there are no reputable tuners in my area on rotaries, and if a map is preloaded, that would sve me a lot of time.
The reason I'm asking... is there are no reputable tuners in my area on rotaries, and if a map is preloaded, that would sve me a lot of time.
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Mazsport sends out their interceptors pre-loaded with a base map, but they'll stress that its only a guideline. It will get you around town, but you NEED to get it properly tuned.
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im in the same boat you are. really thinking about the greddy turbo. i dont need that much power "NOW" so the greddy would be perfect for me. Just i plan on putting the 20b in the 8 in a about 4-5 yrs. Big project.
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The greddy turbo with EMU is great outside the box, but when you add on parts such a BOV or try to extend the intake and make it a cold air.....the EMU is not designed for that......other than that, I have no CEL and it run great. A little rich while on boost though.
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I've got the GReddy kit, and I think it is *****.
Whoever decided what turbo to use must have used the logic:
"Hmmm, the documentation for the RX-8 says it has a 1.3L engine, so let's pull the cheapest tiny turbo we can from our bin that can feed a '1.3L engine'. Then, we slap it together with other cheap, low quality crap so we can be first to market and make high margins".
I mean, they ship it with a blocking plate so it RESTRICTS flow so the turbo doesn't get knackered. How dumb can you get?
Don't do the GReddy.
The Mazsport kit is more expensive, but it rocks hard...I wish I would have waited for it!
Whoever decided what turbo to use must have used the logic:
"Hmmm, the documentation for the RX-8 says it has a 1.3L engine, so let's pull the cheapest tiny turbo we can from our bin that can feed a '1.3L engine'. Then, we slap it together with other cheap, low quality crap so we can be first to market and make high margins".
I mean, they ship it with a blocking plate so it RESTRICTS flow so the turbo doesn't get knackered. How dumb can you get?
Don't do the GReddy.
The Mazsport kit is more expensive, but it rocks hard...I wish I would have waited for it!
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Originally Posted by Vtecvick
^ i've actually done my research. Most would probably say go with Mazsport Stage 1 kit, or the PTP kit or heck even get a supercharger. But i can't really afford those kits. Some people love there greddy kits some people like Fanman have spent tons of money just to fix his kit. One thing i couldnt find out was If they have fixed any previous problems that the kit had when it 1st came out
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on rx7.com the greddy is $3700... save an extra 600 up and wait for the axial flow because it should get all the power you're looking for with a much better tune and from what RP claims, you wont need anything but what comes with his kit. Of course you may need to replace clutch eventually and might want an upgraded fuel pump, but none of this is required when you buy the kit
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Originally Posted by 8 Maniac
on rx7.com the greddy is $3700... save an extra 600 up and wait for the axial flow because it should get all the power you're looking for with a much better tune and from what RP claims, you wont need anything but what comes with his kit. Of course you may need to replace clutch eventually and might want an upgraded fuel pump, but none of this is required when you buy the kit
save $300 and get it from mohdparts.com