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^ is true as far as the kits concerned..
to my understanding.. turbo charging will be a bit more than sc due to the installation. it will also need a proper tune upon install correct??
a SC seems more DIY friendly..
but im not positive.. the pettit kit was 5k n some changes
but when you buy a kit for a TC+ installation and tuning wouldnt it be very close in price?? for example the greddy turbo kit is like 3.6k i mean it probably wouldnt be another 1400 in install cost but than again.. idk
plus the whole full rpm range is better IMO!!
to my understanding.. turbo charging will be a bit more than sc due to the installation. it will also need a proper tune upon install correct??
a SC seems more DIY friendly..
but im not positive.. the pettit kit was 5k n some changes
but when you buy a kit for a TC+ installation and tuning wouldnt it be very close in price?? for example the greddy turbo kit is like 3.6k i mean it probably wouldnt be another 1400 in install cost but than again.. idk
plus the whole full rpm range is better IMO!!
2. What is meant when you say "a SC seems more DIY friendly"????? Does not matter what kit it is and did you plan on installing the kit yourself.
3. IMO, Pettit= Quality, I'm not surprised that their kit cost more than others. Depending on how far you want to go with this build, cost could end up similar between the two. The Greddy Kit cost less and could cost less in total depending on the build and what you want out of it. Tuning cost should be taken into consideration, not just 3.6k and what would it take to install. Anything could go wrong during a build and could delay the process. Some shops might be generous and not charge for the extra labor of installing alone and not to mention, keeping the car there overnight, possibly even longer, who knows? Things happen, friend. DIY can save you money as long as you know what exactly to do as well as expect from any build.
4. RPM range being better??? Explain please? Super Chargers do seem smooth through the RPM band and they are but whatever makes you feel "comfortable", this coming from a guy who only used Turbo's throught his life. I'm not criticizing because I have never driven a S/C car but have been inside one. I was also under the impression that you were just speaking from what you've seen and not done. Also meaning, I hope you know exactly what you are looking at and for when it comes to the build.
Make sure whatever it is you choooooose, ends up being what you really want. Then again, we all have some sort of regret doing something.
Good Luck
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fix my sig what??
and also yes'll its from gained knowledge.. thoughts and info from others who have installed.
a smart man asks questions..
ive not done this once.. i intend on doing it myself as i did state clearly in my previous post.
i feel 'comfortable' in the 300hp range.. a SC would be almost like the a ride in a g35 or 350z its just nice acceleration..
i would really be content with that minimal HP..
but thats just my opinion
and also yes'll its from gained knowledge.. thoughts and info from others who have installed.
a smart man asks questions..
ive not done this once.. i intend on doing it myself as i did state clearly in my previous post.
i feel 'comfortable' in the 300hp range.. a SC would be almost like the a ride in a g35 or 350z its just nice acceleration..
i would really be content with that minimal HP..
but thats just my opinion
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The few comments before my post imply something odd about your sig, maybe the way you wrote it, IDK?
Smart men do ask questions just as well as searching for a thread on this very subject, literally. Judging by your post, I would seek professional assistance. Just to be safe again.
Depending on your meaning of "nice" acceleration, 350z/G35's are ok, I own a 350z. At those power levels an RX8 to those two are nearly completely different IMO. We tune for what again? Will you actually be content with that power level, I'm just saying. Build threads FTW, lol, considering that there are enough to give you a better idea of what to expect.
Firstly, any type of list of things to do or outline, they help IMO. Not being rude nor criticizing, just responding and helping out. Hope all goes well.
Smart men do ask questions just as well as searching for a thread on this very subject, literally. Judging by your post, I would seek professional assistance. Just to be safe again.
Depending on your meaning of "nice" acceleration, 350z/G35's are ok, I own a 350z. At those power levels an RX8 to those two are nearly completely different IMO. We tune for what again? Will you actually be content with that power level, I'm just saying. Build threads FTW, lol, considering that there are enough to give you a better idea of what to expect.
Firstly, any type of list of things to do or outline, they help IMO. Not being rude nor criticizing, just responding and helping out. Hope all goes well.
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I've been waiting the entire time for MM to come in and smack people on the head for saying that the SC feels like NA, while the turbo doesn't
Btw op, neither SC kit will bring you to 300rwhp as far as I know. Unless you mean crank horsepower, then I think both exceed 300.
Btw op, neither SC kit will bring you to 300rwhp as far as I know. Unless you mean crank horsepower, then I think both exceed 300.
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I've been waiting the entire time for MM to come in and smack people on the head for saying that the SC feels like NA, while the turbo doesn't
Btw op, neither SC kit will bring you to 300rwhp as far as I know. Unless you mean crank horsepower, then I think both exceed 300.
Btw op, neither SC kit will bring you to 300rwhp as far as I know. Unless you mean crank horsepower, then I think both exceed 300.
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I've been waiting the entire time for MM to come in and smack people on the head for saying that the SC feels like NA, while the turbo doesn't
Btw op, neither SC kit will bring you to 300rwhp as far as I know. Unless you mean crank horsepower, then I think both exceed 300.
Btw op, neither SC kit will bring you to 300rwhp as far as I know. Unless you mean crank horsepower, then I think both exceed 300.
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Woops! Smack in the head will be received
I took my numbers off that "SC, Turbos, Nitrous" thread, and I swear everyone in the thread kept saying how Pettit's numbers themselves were the highest, and they were at 300whp?
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I took my numbers off that "SC, Turbos, Nitrous" thread, and I swear everyone in the thread kept saying how Pettit's numbers themselves were the highest, and they were at 300whp?
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Totally understandable, lol.
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The few comments before my post imply something odd about your sig, maybe the way you wrote it, IDK?
Smart men do ask questions just as well as searching for a thread on this very subject, literally. Judging by your post, I would seek professional assistance. Just to be safe again.
Depending on your meaning of "nice" acceleration, 350z/G35's are ok, I own a 350z. At those power levels an RX8 to those two are nearly completely different IMO. We tune for what again? Will you actually be content with that power level, I'm just saying. Build threads FTW, lol, considering that there are enough to give you a better idea of what to expect.
Firstly, any type of list of things to do or outline, they help IMO. Not being rude nor criticizing, just responding and helping out. Hope all goes well.
Smart men do ask questions just as well as searching for a thread on this very subject, literally. Judging by your post, I would seek professional assistance. Just to be safe again.
Depending on your meaning of "nice" acceleration, 350z/G35's are ok, I own a 350z. At those power levels an RX8 to those two are nearly completely different IMO. We tune for what again? Will you actually be content with that power level, I'm just saying. Build threads FTW, lol, considering that there are enough to give you a better idea of what to expect.
Firstly, any type of list of things to do or outline, they help IMO. Not being rude nor criticizing, just responding and helping out. Hope all goes well.
No, thanks i appreciate the info. thus the reason why i post and ask quesitons right??
well ive driving in mid to high output vehicles.. actually many with different power levels, weights, and so fourth. and when i drove the g35 it was nice.. nothing amazing but the 280 was just right. my friends 02 camero SS with i forgot what mods. dyno'd at 345 to the wheels(which is way heavier than the 8) was pretty good in acceleration. anyother car i drove was a 01 trans am ws6 ram air. also dyno'd at 332 hp the wheels was fun and great.. but the weights like i said are different.. i to be honest am pretty content with the power for now from my 8, but the extra bit more would make me much happier..
so to answer your question i would most definantly be content with at minimum 300 rwhp..
i do plan on finding someone who specializes in this type of builds. and the nearest city to me is 2 hrs away who actually no rotaries and have a dedicated shop for em.. but thats just too far without 2 vehicles..
anyways thanks again bro..
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No, thanks i appreciate the info. thus the reason why i post and ask quesitons right??
well ive driving in mid to high output vehicles.. actually many with different power levels, weights, and so fourth. and when i drove the g35 it was nice.. nothing amazing but the 280 was just right. my friends 02 camero SS with i forgot what mods. dyno'd at 345 to the wheels(which is way heavier than the 8) was pretty good in acceleration. anyother car i drove was a 01 trans am ws6 ram air. also dyno'd at 332 hp the wheels was fun and great.. but the weights like i said are different.. i to be honest am pretty content with the power for now from my 8, but the extra bit more would make me much happier..
so to answer your question i would most definantly be content with at minimum 300 rwhp..
i do plan on finding someone who specializes in this type of builds. and the nearest city to me is 2 hrs away who actually no rotaries and have a dedicated shop for em.. but thats just too far without 2 vehicles..
anyways thanks again bro..
well ive driving in mid to high output vehicles.. actually many with different power levels, weights, and so fourth. and when i drove the g35 it was nice.. nothing amazing but the 280 was just right. my friends 02 camero SS with i forgot what mods. dyno'd at 345 to the wheels(which is way heavier than the 8) was pretty good in acceleration. anyother car i drove was a 01 trans am ws6 ram air. also dyno'd at 332 hp the wheels was fun and great.. but the weights like i said are different.. i to be honest am pretty content with the power for now from my 8, but the extra bit more would make me much happier..
so to answer your question i would most definantly be content with at minimum 300 rwhp..
i do plan on finding someone who specializes in this type of builds. and the nearest city to me is 2 hrs away who actually no rotaries and have a dedicated shop for em.. but thats just too far without 2 vehicles..
anyways thanks again bro..
Good Luck
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Air is air. Doesnt matter --its all in the set up and tune.
Turbos can have just as smooth of a power delivery as a s.c if set up right and tuned correctly.
IMHO I do believe Turbos are a more complex system--waste gates, adjustable pressure, boost controllers, underhood heat, large a/a intercoolers etc.
S.c. usually--well its just the s.c. and a/w intercooler/ pump/tank thing. Oh yea the belt drive but that is a no brainer. and thats it.
I would recommend patience/ learn enough that you can self install. adding boost to this car is not a simple matter. ie--bolt on a kit and drive away=no no.
So its really handy to know the kit and engine well after its done. And its invaluable to have a resource base of people running the same set up.
300 rhp is easily obtainable with boost---and yes it drastically changes the car--so suspension, shift changes, cooling etc are all affected.
do it right--like you are--ask questions and educate yourself as much as possible.
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Turbos can have just as smooth of a power delivery as a s.c if set up right and tuned correctly.
IMHO I do believe Turbos are a more complex system--waste gates, adjustable pressure, boost controllers, underhood heat, large a/a intercoolers etc.
S.c. usually--well its just the s.c. and a/w intercooler/ pump/tank thing. Oh yea the belt drive but that is a no brainer. and thats it.
I would recommend patience/ learn enough that you can self install. adding boost to this car is not a simple matter. ie--bolt on a kit and drive away=no no.
So its really handy to know the kit and engine well after its done. And its invaluable to have a resource base of people running the same set up.
300 rhp is easily obtainable with boost---and yes it drastically changes the car--so suspension, shift changes, cooling etc are all affected.
do it right--like you are--ask questions and educate yourself as much as possible.
olddragger
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Turbocharging and Supercharging by Corky Bell are decent reads. Good introductory level information, easy on the brain, lots of pictures/examples. I think I bought my copies for $20/each. Then, if you are going to do the work yourself, make a project list. Do research on individual components. Where you can, find people who have used that component in a build. Don't pick out components that stop at 300 whp. I'd probably aim for 10% over and dial it back. You can stretch a Greddy to 300 whp or you can go with a bigger setup and make 300 easily.
I think the number one downside to superchargers right now is getting one.
I think the number one downside to superchargers right now is getting one.
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thanks to the both of you.. i will definantly take all information gathered into concideration..
i loved the way the SC from pettit sounded if ya'll havent seen the video..
i know the build is gonna end up costing more for the car i purchased.. i only got my 8 for 10.5k lol i will quickly rack up a bill higher than that..
i loved the way the SC from pettit sounded if ya'll havent seen the video..
i know the build is gonna end up costing more for the car i purchased.. i only got my 8 for 10.5k lol i will quickly rack up a bill higher than that..
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You guys think the OP might benefit from a PM conversation with a guy who has actually installed all three types of power-adders (S/C, turbo, nitrous) and has no general bias for/against any of them? Maybe a guy who has demonstrated a greater concern for others' successful outcomes than lining his own pocket and asks the proper questions?
BTW, I am hoping a certain S/C kit becomes available early next year so the BHR stable has all three power-adder types within easy access.
BTW, I am hoping a certain S/C kit becomes available early next year so the BHR stable has all three power-adder types within easy access.
You point that guy out Charles, and we'll show him the way! But as far as I'm concerned, there's nought but ****** and vultures on these forums!
Besides, reading is fundamental! It's the whole teach a man to fish thing....
PM Charles at your own risk. Once you do, you'll probably want to PM about everything. I have made exactly one purchase from BHR (I think) and I have sent him like 12 billion PMs, all with replies.
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