Supercharger performance
03-01-2007, 05:04 PM
#102
The Renesis can "hold" about as much boost as you can fuel.
That isn't really a valid question.
You can use the Rotary Math spreadsheet to figure out the limits yourself.
I don't run it out to 9k - the Renesis has a pretty sharp drop in VE after 7600 RPM - but the turbo is still doing its thing at that point.
I'm usually on my way to the next gear by 8400 RPM.
That isn't really a valid question.
You can use the Rotary Math spreadsheet to figure out the limits yourself.
I don't run it out to 9k - the Renesis has a pretty sharp drop in VE after 7600 RPM - but the turbo is still doing its thing at that point.
I'm usually on my way to the next gear by 8400 RPM.
03-01-2007, 08:25 PM
#103
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
The Renesis can "hold" about as much boost as you can fuel.
That isn't really a valid question.
You can use the Rotary Math spreadsheet to figure out the limits yourself.
I don't run it out to 9k - the Renesis has a pretty sharp drop in VE after 7600 RPM - but the turbo is still doing its thing at that point.
I'm usually on my way to the next gear by 8400 RPM.
That isn't really a valid question.
You can use the Rotary Math spreadsheet to figure out the limits yourself.
I don't run it out to 9k - the Renesis has a pretty sharp drop in VE after 7600 RPM - but the turbo is still doing its thing at that point.
I'm usually on my way to the next gear by 8400 RPM.
I'm still coming to terms with your rotary math spread sheet and at this point I don't think it can deliver an answer to my question (if fuel is neglected, since it is essentially limitless IMO).
03-14-2007, 06:31 PM
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what would happen if you put a small supercharger on the pipe going from the header to the turbo to pump a small amount of air into the turbo. would that eliminate the turbo lag? the air would already be there.....right?
still new please be nice
rick
still new please be nice
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03-14-2007, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ricky356
what would happen if you put a small supercharger on the pipe going from the header to the turbo to pump a small amount of air into the turbo. would that eliminate the turbo lag? the air would already be there.....right?
still new please be nice
rick
still new please be nice
rick
trying to be nice
03-14-2007, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by eviltwinkie
ricky...word of advice...dont poke at the maniac...and search...lest he issues the "search" pwnage on you...
rick
03-15-2007, 12:02 AM
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03-15-2007, 12:56 AM
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thanks for the compound charging, i really wouldnt know where to start even looking into something like that.
i know you guys know alot and im just getting my feet wet. and you tell alot of people search! but honestly something like this i would not even know what to search for. just try to remember when you guys started tuning and didnt know all that much thats where im at now and i greatly appreciate all the info and patience. thing is im getting ready to go FI and i dont know all that much and i just want to be as informed as possible before i go sc or tc. i dont want to damage anything.
thanks
rick
i know you guys know alot and im just getting my feet wet. and you tell alot of people search! but honestly something like this i would not even know what to search for. just try to remember when you guys started tuning and didnt know all that much thats where im at now and i greatly appreciate all the info and patience. thing is im getting ready to go FI and i dont know all that much and i just want to be as informed as possible before i go sc or tc. i dont want to damage anything.
thanks
rick
03-15-2007, 09:59 AM
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ricky...just to be newb friendly...and becuase i dont have a sweet-*** pic to tease you with i'll give you a quick answer...
while you could do something like that...it would only add complexity to an already complex system...with complexity comes less reliability and a higher chance something could go wrong..
also if you read up on turbo systems now-a-days youll find that the snails themselves have gotten better and lag is almost a thing of the past on a properly designed system. that said it really doesnt need anything...back in the day i remember hearing guys who would "spank" the turbo w/ no2 (naaawwwwzzz for those who like to say that word)...
getting back to my main reason...reduction of complexity should be a major part of any design...an elegant solution exists for everything...sometimes its just hard to find...
i'm still debating myself what i am going to ultimately do...i like the axial flow...but turbos give you flexibility which i also love...
i might just flip a coin in the end...
while you could do something like that...it would only add complexity to an already complex system...with complexity comes less reliability and a higher chance something could go wrong..
also if you read up on turbo systems now-a-days youll find that the snails themselves have gotten better and lag is almost a thing of the past on a properly designed system. that said it really doesnt need anything...back in the day i remember hearing guys who would "spank" the turbo w/ no2 (naaawwwwzzz for those who like to say that word)...
getting back to my main reason...reduction of complexity should be a major part of any design...an elegant solution exists for everything...sometimes its just hard to find...
i'm still debating myself what i am going to ultimately do...i like the axial flow...but turbos give you flexibility which i also love...
i might just flip a coin in the end...
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03-15-2007, 10:22 AM
#122
Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Wait 'til Ricky finds out why the World Rally cars inject fuel in the turbine.
afterburner of course!!! w0000t!!!
03-16-2007, 04:59 PM
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MM Im not sure about this or not, but didnt you build your own turbo?
Though I cant decide whether to go with the AFSC or a turbo when the time comes
Also would you consider a turbo a specialized sc to some degree? <--I know that is a noob question and Im probably going to get chewed out for it, but Im just curious.
Though I cant decide whether to go with the AFSC or a turbo when the time comes
Also would you consider a turbo a specialized sc to some degree? <--I know that is a noob question and Im probably going to get chewed out for it, but Im just curious.