IcemanVKO

Guys take a look at this and see what you think...

http://www.esuperchargers.com/

Its an electronic Supercharger, that you build yourself, that gives you a +2 PSI gain on the Intake. They say it will give you 15-30 hp gains. That should deliver quite a punch to the RX8 if its true. Anyone ever try this or be willing to try it/

mysql101

highly unlikely.

if you want a real supercharger, pettit racing has one almost out, it's $3500 for the low end version that gains 30-50 hp.

http://www.pettitracing.com/rx8/index.htm

dmp

Snake oil.

Mugatu

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I love how the example dyno on that website happens to be a Civic...

Shocka

so id have pay $15 on instructions to do it myself........
im ready to pop this crap on my civic and see what happens!

expo1

And when not driving can you make Orange Juice?

IcemanVKO

Maybe thats the secret, buy 1 industrial strength orange juicer, hook up a voltage regulator to increase output, jam it into your intake, and get your trunk monkey to sit on your hood and feed it oranges. :p

Zooom Squish ZOOOOM!

expo1

Smart Guys, who would have thought you, can attach a Bathroom vent fan to your car.
Extra power and also removes offensive odors.

MazdaManiac

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Now THIS is a supercharger.

rx8wannahave

I actually thought about trying this...making it on my own and see what happens. I wonder it anything can really be gained or not??? I think someone, maybe me since my car is old, should try it and report back.

Some things that might not make it work is the fact that the air will not flow correctly through the standard air intake. As far as I understand, correct me if I'm wrong, but a Turbo or SC is connected directly to the engine but not at it's intake port or entrance into the engine. It's attached some other way...but I don't know much about SC or Turbo's so hope to be right about that.

Note: I recently read, MT I think, that car companies were actually thinking of electric SC's. Not to increase fuel economy but make cheap 30HP SC or Turbo's...30HP for $100-200 bucks would not be bad at all.

Humm....I wonder...

Equis

Will my RX-8 turn into this Winged Mustang by putting in the "TuRb0"

NAWWWWZ power, Hyper Mega Turbo System? LOL@@

All those $50-$200 FI systems are just those boat fan things or just a piece of crap.

IcemanVKO

A Super Charger is just a Belt Driven Fan, that provides higher than ambient air pressure to the engine.

Imagine your intake, with a conch shell in the middle, but inside the shell is a fan, and outside the shell is a wheel, with a belt attached to your main belt drive. As the belt drive gets faster, the super charger turns faster. It actually pulls against your engine, to provide the power to drive the fan, but you gain more hp buy increased air volume in your combustion chamber, and thus more expansion.

Turbo chargers work much the same way, except, they use the exhaust flow to turn a fan, which in turn draws in air to the intake. Turbo Lag is caused by engaging the turbo, which puts back pressure on the exhaust and lowers power, until the turbo gets up to speed, and starts to provide more power than it takes away.

An electric Super Charger, replaces the belt driven power source, with an electric engine, that runs off of your alternator or your battery. The power at 12v is going to be much less than the power comming off your main belt drive. But if they can achieve 2 psi, that is something.

Combine this with a K&N filter for higher flow rates and you could see a noticable performance boost.

Has anyone looked into removing the CAT on the RX8?

dmp

there is little chance of a fan like that flowing enough to pressurize an engine even to 1psi. Don't waste your time, WannaHave.

Equis

I know what a turbo and supercharger they are driven by the force the engine is making for example the sc when at a ceratin rpm the belt is forcing more air into the intake and making the air compressed and cool. This thing of radishack that they are trying to sell to you is independent from what your engine is doing and you might just end up "snorting" the platic blades into your engine kaput bye bye car engine! If you want more power just remove your airbox and put a panty hose at the hole and enjoy the CEL and the extra 1-2hp.

expo1

Would Fish Net hose give you 3-5 more HP??

Equis

Only if they are sexy red.. lol

G8rboy

Actually, turbos and superchargers work the same general idea as this (compressing the intake charge before it's fed into the engine), but they actually do something unlike this junk. They draw their power to spin differently, but the air is forced into the motor all the same way. There's no way this little electric fan is compressing the charge beyond 1psi... and more than likely it's going to hinder performance since it can't spin fast enough to satisfy the motor's air requirements at high RPM's. And as somebody mentioned, these pieces of crap are dangerous since the blades can snap off and get injested. I doubt we'll ever see a decent supercharger that puts out at least 30hp for less than $2500.

rx8wannahave

Ohh man....LOL

But, was I right? Do Turbo's or SC's use the engine's air intake port (sorry I forgot the real name...dang it, sorry I forgot) or does it like add a new port to force the air in through?

Let me know...

rx8wannahave

This is what I ment. If the blade was made out of a metal, got a powerful electric motor, maybe upgraded the battery and alternator...maybe just maybe you could gain something significant with something insignificant.

Note: You might not need a upgraded battery or alternator...I"m just saying

I'm not an engineer so please don't laugh too long, for the sake of my ego...LOL

I took a few engineering classes in college and I liked them alot but I did not love it enough to stick to it..."Some will say I did not have the math (Freaken Calculus), but what do they know...LOL"

Naa, it was more that I forgot enough of Algebra not to be able to put it together for calculus and then there is that pesky thing called "Study" to get around...LOL

Note: Notice I took the SC out of the way of the normal air flow...gosh, I must be sounding MO stupid the more I talk...OK...done! :D

G8rboy

No, they use the same intake port as naturally aspirated motors.

rx8wannahave

OK, thanks...that's what I thought.

Then...why would an electric fan not be able to do anything for FI? Is it that it would need too much electrical juice? It can't spin fast enough?

I'm not saying this thing works but I thought it could be possible?

8_is_enuf

It could add power at low RPM's when the car isn't ingesting much air, but once the RPM's increase the car consumes a ton of air, this fan could actually reduce air flow. I think that is what he was saying.

G8rboy

I know the idea is being tossed around again by car companies... maybe some new technology, but my understanding is that the load/drain on the motor by turning a supercharger purely by electricity would be break even or exceed the benefit of the forced induction it could achieve. If you look at a normal belt driven supercharger- there is a noticeable drain on the motor (like when you turn on your AC)... which is why most modern ones have clutch-type mechanisms that "coast" when not under throttle or boost.

IcemanVKO

Um, your starter runs off of Electricity, so I'm sure you could get enough power in a fan to put out enough air to make a difference.

I agree with the issue of fan blades breaking off though... Sounds too scary to me.

However you might could put a mesh grill in front of the fan, to prevent any parts from hitting the engine

Also the turbo/super has to have the same path, because if it didn't it would force air out of the intake.

rx8wannahave

Ah....IC