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Old 12-18-2004, 10:40 PM
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should i get sc or turbo?

I have 5000 dollar to spend on my next mod, but i don't know if supercharge better for the rx8 or the turbo is better? can anyone tell me what company make any of those or tell me which you think is good for rx8?
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They're not even out yet.
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i recommend the turbonator...
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Improve the Handling First

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i recommend the turbonator...

That’s funny.


On a serious note, take your money and improve the handling of your car. At this time there are no kits for the 8. There will be some stuff coming out soon, but it will be unreliable, and a warranty voider. Your best bet is to give it some time, let someone else figure out what works (and doesn't work) and when you warranty has run out, invest in a kit.
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Originally Posted by black-rx8-msbodykit
I have 5000 dollar to spend on my next mod, but i don't know if supercharge better for the rx8 or the turbo is better? can anyone tell me what company make any of those or tell me which you think is good for rx8?
hmm.... do u know what kind of ride do u want ur 8 to be ?! cuz ... supercharger and turbocharger car are different.!! so .. u mind think about what kinda ride u want to drive.!! and the other question is...!! it's not much turbocharger and superchager available now..!! like superchager I know ssr and speedforceracing and ptp has it..!! and .. seems like not really available now..!! and the supercharger right now I know is sunflower's. and some other stores forgot the name sorry!! ha.. but u can get some info from some expert!! (5k.! seems like not enough for current..maybe u can mod it later..!!) :D anyway..!! my suggestion is.. drive safe
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if you had to go with tc or sc... i would go with SC... ur car will feel more natural...

NA is your best bet in my opinion.
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Given that the rotary puts out a lot through the exhaust, and must be driven at high revs to get any power, I think there isn't much problem with a turbo. Especially since you can have the turbo kicking in around 3500 rpm.

Nothing wrong with a supercharger, but they tend to cost more.
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either setup will give you increase in horse power. and void the warranty. the turbo typically produces more power but at the cost of waiting for spool up. the supercharger on the other hand though not producing as much power, you don't have to wait for it. the supercharger is belt driven instead of exhaust like the turbo. if you are looking for a strait line from a stop i suggest the sc. if you are doing autocross where you keep the engine in the power range the the turbo is the better choice. i was talking with a mazda dealer mechanic last night and he told me there will be a mazdaspeed turbo coming out in the next year or two. that would be the best choice as it would not void the warranty
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"best" is subjective. We all know how reliable rumors are at the mazda dealerships, and secondly the mazdaspeed turbos are never cutting edge, the aftermarket turbos will assuredly be better in terms of power gained.
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A turbo is not better for autocross. In autocross you are in lots of tight turns with lots of on/off throttle situations. I have seen shortening of times of over 2 seconds on short courses with the same driver running similar cars with a supercharger being quicker than a turbocharger and supercharger making less power. Turbochargers tend to have the edge on higher speed tracks where you are running embanked high speed turns rather than really tight turns in 1-2 and sometimes 3rd gear. Throttle response is extremely important in autocross and turbochargers just can't touch superchargers.
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Originally Posted by Icemastr
A turbo is not better for autocross. In autocross you are in lots of tight turns with lots of on/off throttle situations. I have seen shortening of times of over 2 seconds on short courses with the same driver running similar cars with a supercharger being quicker than a turbocharger and supercharger making less power. Turbochargers tend to have the edge on higher speed tracks where you are running embanked high speed turns rather than really tight turns in 1-2 and sometimes 3rd gear. Throttle response is extremely important in autocross and turbochargers just can't touch superchargers.
You hit the nail on the head. I personally would prefer the turbo, but I have been driving, tuning, and building turbo cars since the Grand National, I'm somewhat biased. I'm not sure I would call superchargers more natural though, have you driven a late model Cobra, not to natural. My original sequentials felt much smoother. I like to think turbos are more suited for high revving engines. Where as, sc's are at home on an American V8. Without a doubt though, turbos have far more potential for streetability and power in a congruent factor.
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While you're waiting for a mod to void your warranty and to be a guinea pig for a scam artist who promises you 500 hp and 700 ft/lb of torque, I happen to know a Nigerian, a former government official who needs help gaining access to his millions in a Swiss bank. If you'll send him your $5000 he can make you rich beyond your wildest dreams. PM if you're interested.
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I done everything to the car already, i got new mazdaspeed bodykit, tein flexiable coilover with edfc, and carbon fiber hood and spoiler, aftermarket rims, K&N intake, B&Bexhaust, SR pulley,nology sparkpulge, hyperground wire and voltage battery, i done everything possible for the 8, so i don't know what to do with the 5000 dollar, that's my chrismas gift from my parents best gift so far is super charge good for drive on the regular road? i just want some speed for fun.

By the way Jsh1120, i don't really need anymore money because my family already have million of dollars, don't really need more cash
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Originally Posted by black-rx8-msbodykit

By the way Jsh1120, i don't really need anymore money because my family already have million of dollars, don't really need more cash
Share the love with me then..............
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Originally Posted by black-rx8-msbodykit
I done everything to the car already, i got new mazdaspeed bodykit, tein flexiable coilover with edfc, and carbon fiber hood and spoiler, aftermarket rims, K&N intake, B&Bexhaust, SR pulley,nology sparkpulge, hyperground wire and voltage battery, i done everything possible for the 8, so i don't know what to do with the 5000 dollar, that's my chrismas gift from my parents best gift so far is super charge good for drive on the regular road? i just want some speed for fun.

By the way Jsh1120, i don't really need anymore money because my family already have million of dollars, don't really need more cash

No one will be seeing any turbo kit put on your car... or supercharger.... get back into your stock civic with the big *** wing and get the hell out of this forum
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dam u're one lucky 16 y/o. Hope u earned it.
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Originally Posted by Ktreece777
No one will be seeing any turbo kit put on your car... or supercharger.... get back into your stock civic with the big *** wing and get the hell out of this forum
A bit harsh aren't we?

I suppose photos of your supposed modded ride would be good.........
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I wasnt planning on having to buy a new set oftires after a little overa year of ownership so itlooks like the F/I business isgoing to be pushed back a couple months for me. Notlike it matters much though as therestill arent any signs of when the hell somebody is going to getone of these kits out on the US market.

Besides - atthis point Ive learned tolive w/the fact that Ihave a great looking 16 second vehicle.
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Originally Posted by black-rx8-msbodykit
...By the way Jsh1120, i don't really need anymore money because my family already have million of dollars, don't really need more cash
There is a reason that family fortunes are frequently pissed away by the second and third generations.
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Originally Posted by black-rx8-msbodykit
I done everything to the car already, i got new mazdaspeed bodykit, tein flexiable coilover with edfc, and carbon fiber hood and spoiler, aftermarket rims, K&N intake, B&Bexhaust, SR pulley,nology sparkpulge, hyperground wire and voltage battery, i done everything possible for the 8, so i don't know what to do with the 5000 dollar, that's my chrismas gift from my parents best gift so far is super charge good for drive on the regular road? i just want some speed for fun.

By the way Jsh1120, i don't really need anymore money because my family already have million of dollars, don't really need more cash
I love how you took a forum that started with a good debate on when/where/how a supercharger/turbocharger would be more effective, and then opened the door for people to flame you. So here's my cheap shot...
I appreciate how your parents worked hard to earn that money, but I am saddened to see how poorly they have reared such an arrogant son. Instead of $5k for christmas, I think you would be better off with a few grammer lessons. Also, I agree with one of the posters above me. Your probably full of crap and do not even own an 8. If you do... where are the pics?

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Well, perhaps English isn't his first language, and even if it is, proper grammar and internet conversations don't necessarily go hand in hand. A majority of posters on this board have never posted pics of their car, but do not get questioned as to whether or not they actually own an 8. Let's lighten up a little here. The thread was actually semi productive until the flamers started.
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Ah, once again the OFE syndrom rears it's head.

Why in my day, we had to drive american cars! through the snow! uphill! While peeing in a glass to cool them!

Now for the original question posed, if you want more of a easygoing power gain, I think a SC would be better suited for you. You'll have to get someone to custom plumb it as of now, and it will probably be over 5 grand, but then again, that shouldnt be a problem from what you say.

Then again, I've never driven or ridden in a SC powered rotary car, so what do I know.
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first things first- get rid of the K&N intake. it aint helping you and might be hurting you. put the stock back on. then wait for an sc or tc kit that comes with an intake designed for that kit. turbos seem to be on the verge of making it to the market slightly ahead of the superchargers. if you cant wait and you have gobs of money to throw away, look in theAustralian section for a turbo that is almost ready there. if you can wait then i say wait until Richard Paul has his axial flow supercharger ready- its going to be really cool.
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Haha.. millions of dollars yet you have a $5000 budget.. that sucks.
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An injection of funds would speed my unit to market. For sure the major sponsor would be the first with the best. Maybe you need a personal engine developer. Not cheap but I can be bought.
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