SFR 400 WHP Renesis?
05-12-2006, 02:06 AM
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05-12-2006, 05:19 AM
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The point is not to make a turbo dyno queen, the point is to make a turbo queen with enough horsepower that could last for say 50,000 miles at least. Make a 300whp turbo kit tested for 50,000 miles and then we can talk about it.
05-12-2006, 10:51 AM
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05-12-2006, 11:51 AM
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05-12-2006, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by peloponisios
The point is not to make a turbo dyno queen, the point is to make a turbo queen with enough horsepower that could last for say 50,000 miles at least. Make a 300whp turbo kit tested for 50,000 miles and then we can talk about it.
Thank you ... Dude i second that . How long did that 410WHP lasted 3 days or is it still running?
05-12-2006, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by peloponisios
The point is not to make a turbo dyno queen, the point is to make a turbo queen with enough horsepower that could last for say 50,000 miles at least. Make a 300whp turbo kit tested for 50,000 miles and then we can talk about it.
05-12-2006, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BigOLundh
I think they did have a few dynos from the last setup, but i dont understand why they keep switching setups every 6mo... and still have nothing on the market yet.
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The most current dyno is 326WHP at 9psi.
http://www.speedforceracing.com/imag...it/rx8_1_6.jpg
This was done on a Dyno Dynamics dyno which tends to read lower then a Dynojet.We are not switching set-ups every six months.We are only changing turbocharger configurations as well as upgrading the intercooler to match the higher output turbo.Everything else remains the same.The turbo system has been available for quite some time now.
05-12-2006, 12:42 PM
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I dont know if i consider 400WHP a dyno queen. 1000hp yes but 400... no. That is an controllable amount and could be daily driven without too much trouble. It may have more lag then a greddy kit but that not hard to do considering the greddy kit has nearly no lag. And ask for reliability, no one knows how reliable it is on the higher horsepower because no one has tested these higher horsepower setups that long yet. It seems to be pretty stout so far. Infact we dont know for sure if the renesis in N/A will last to a guarenteed 100k trouble free miles. Why would you think you will get that much from a high horsepower kit? Even 300whp is over 33%+ more power too the wheels then in N/A form, which is significantly more wear and tear then stock power. No one is going to come out with a kit that makes 400hp and promises 100k miles of no trouble what so ever. So quit whining about it. If you want 200k mile reliability then go buy a honda. High horsepower kits are for the people who want that much power and the fun that goes with it and if you get a few less miles and worse gas mileage, then thats the price you pay for the fun. You knowingly except that fact when you buy the kit so if you dont like it then dont buy it.
05-12-2006, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mike1324a
I dont know if i consider 400WHP a dyno queen. 1000hp yes but 400... no. That is an controllable amount and could be daily driven without too much trouble. It may have more lag then a greddy kit but that not hard to do considering the greddy kit has nearly no lag. And ask for reliability, no one knows how reliable it is on the higher horsepower because no one has tested these higher horsepower setups that long yet. It seems to be pretty stout so far. Infact we dont know for sure if the renesis in N/A will last to a guarenteed 100k trouble free miles. Why would you think you will get that much from a high horsepower kit? Even 300whp is over 33%+ more power too the wheels then in N/A form, which is significantly more wear and tear then stock power. No one is going to come out with a kit that makes 400hp and promises 100k miles of no trouble what so ever. So quit whining about it. If you want 200k mile reliability then go buy a honda. High horsepower kits are for the people who want that much power and the fun that goes with it and if you get a few less miles and worse gas mileage, then thats the price you pay for the fun. You knowingly except that fact when you buy the kit so if you dont like it then dont buy it.
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05-12-2006, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by stickmantijuana
did i miss something?
wth are you guys talking about?
anyway, i'm still waiting for that miracle ball bearing turbo swap to swap out my greddy turbo. i'm guessing SFR ball bearing turbo wouldn't work with the greddy kit?
i knew SFR had a product on their website for awhile. i just don't like it when companys make claims about their not even near finished product.
if more people had SFR, i would've been torn 50/50 between greddy & SFR. it eventually came down to the turbo mounting positions for me. low cg with greddy. i also should mention i like cleaning my mushroom filter every month for my personal gratification, and i never enjoyed removing my bumper.
wth are you guys talking about?
anyway, i'm still waiting for that miracle ball bearing turbo swap to swap out my greddy turbo. i'm guessing SFR ball bearing turbo wouldn't work with the greddy kit?
i knew SFR had a product on their website for awhile. i just don't like it when companys make claims about their not even near finished product.
if more people had SFR, i would've been torn 50/50 between greddy & SFR. it eventually came down to the turbo mounting positions for me. low cg with greddy. i also should mention i like cleaning my mushroom filter every month for my personal gratification, and i never enjoyed removing my bumper.
We are not making any claims except that right now you can buy a 326WHP turbo kit for your RX-8.That is the only claim we are making.Now we do believe we have the combination to make 400WHP at a modest boost level(11 psi or less) on these cars and I just wanted to let people know about some things we are working on.Thats it.No hype or BS.It is just like someone posting that Petitt is releasing a supercharger kit.People want to know this stuff.Ofcourse we could keep everything a secret.As a matter of fact I guess I will from now on.
I just find it f***ing amazing how certain threads have more then 100,000 views for a span of 2-3 years and the companies still get congratulated,patted on the back, heralded as heros and still not even have a product available. Yet the whole time we have been on these boards we have been bashed, scrutinized and insulted! And we do have a product available that has been tested and does work.
05-12-2006, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by stickmantijuana
just chill. i never meant to insult your company. other threads you've mentioned have been more of interest-threads about superchargers on our renesis. lot of us already have our greddy turbo installed. i guess i just expect a little more when it comes down to offering of new turbo kits. perhaps you're advertising in a wrong space where most members already have greddy. this forum has been an environment conducive to buying the greddy kit, despite its weakness.
i personally think that your best bet is to go with the flow and make an upgrade kit that would enhance the greddy kit and iron out many of its known problems much like what scott@mazsport is doing. but that's just my opinion. unless you build something ground breaking, i doubt you can reverse the current trend of buying the greddy kit.
i personally think that your best bet is to go with the flow and make an upgrade kit that would enhance the greddy kit and iron out many of its known problems much like what scott@mazsport is doing. but that's just my opinion. unless you build something ground breaking, i doubt you can reverse the current trend of buying the greddy kit.
and if thier building a turbo kit thats going to reach
400whp; there has to be reliability and credibility.
but still i guess sfr guys are still in the process of experimenting.
so i hope eveything works out fine.
05-12-2006, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedForceRacing
I just find it f***ing amazing how certain threads have more then 100,000 views for a span of 2-3 years and the companies still get congratulated,patted on the back, heralded as heros and still not even have a product available.
Originally Posted by SpeedForceRacing
Yet the whole time we have been on these boards we have been bashed, scrutinized and insulted! And we do have a product available that has been tested and does work.
05-12-2006, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by stickmantijuana
just chill. i never meant to insult your company. other threads you've mentioned have been more of interest-threads about superchargers on our renesis. lot of us already have our greddy turbo installed. i guess i just expect a little more when it comes down to offering of new turbo kits. perhaps you're advertising in a wrong space where most members already have greddy. this forum has been an environment conducive to buying the greddy kit, despite its weakness.
i personally think that your best bet is to go with the flow and make an upgrade kit that would enhance the greddy kit and iron out many of its known problems much like what scott@mazsport is doing. but that's just my opinion. unless you build something ground breaking, i doubt you can reverse the current trend of buying the greddy kit.
i personally think that your best bet is to go with the flow and make an upgrade kit that would enhance the greddy kit and iron out many of its known problems much like what scott@mazsport is doing. but that's just my opinion. unless you build something ground breaking, i doubt you can reverse the current trend of buying the greddy kit.
I wasnt implying that you were insulting in anyway.Sorry if it came off that way.What I was trying to get across is that for the most part, some people have taken it upon themselves to make all sorts of derogatory statements over the last couple of years.
05-12-2006, 02:05 PM
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If I am correct Tim has been running cars over 2 years on his kit now. It hasn't been for sale that long but they have been running around with them. For all the haters, go to his shop and see his work. He is a very upfront guy who has always done work on the drop of a dime for me, albeit not the craziest of projects. He has helped me out a few times with my wife's turbo MX-5 and his product speakes volumes. I am going to use his kit as soon as I can save up the $$ (1/2 way there) and am exstatic at the idea of a gt35r on there. I want a gt28r for my wife's car too and I will likely use his shop to make a manifold/dp setup for the MX-5 too. You all should be more supportive that people/shops are willing to spend so much r and d time on our cars not whine and snivel. Just my $.02
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05-12-2006, 02:21 PM
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How many of you people who are complaining about not having the perfect turbo kit have tried to make one for yourself. Its no easy feat. Im sick and tired of hearing people bash tim, PTP, RP and hymee about this that and the other. They have gone out on a limb and are trying to make products to satisfy the demand for more power. None of them have had all day every day to work on these kits. They work on it when they can. Not to mention it costs money to make a kit. To get a quality product its gonna take time and money. So until you make a kit of your own that makes 300whp and does 100k miles without trouble then shut up. No one wants to hear you bitch and moan. If you have a problem with the product selection then make one of your own and market it.
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05-12-2006, 03:12 PM
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The point im trying to make is that bitching and moaning does nothing to solve the problem at hand. People want more power and they have to go to the experts. Like they have to go to the experts to get out their tumors. So if you have a problem with the available products then become an expert and do it yourself.
05-12-2006, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by stickmantijuana
i personally think that your best bet is to go with the flow and make an upgrade kit that would enhance the greddy kit and iron out many of its known problems much like what scott@mazsport is doing. but that's just my opinion. unless you build something ground breaking, i doubt you can reverse the current trend of buying the greddy kit.
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05-12-2006, 06:54 PM
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In general the guys at SFR have been pretty cool, and their posts are insightful, and have never been derogatory. The guys at SSR, that's a different story. I'm glad they are doing what they are doing. In the market you have a low end (Greddy) & a high end (SFR, PTP, etc.). Don't think these two will overlap too much. If they had a viable working unit a year ago (and it wasn't $7500 w the FMU) I definitely would have considered it.
05-12-2006, 10:22 PM
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What some of these guys on this site complain about is the price of your kit. Personally, I don't see a problem, if you can't afford it then shut up, sell your car. I have never seen anyone complain on this site that there was anything wrong with your kit. I have seen however that there has been plenty of complaints about the greddy. So where are all of you coming from? Are you guys just cheap? Inflation ladies and gentlemen!
05-12-2006, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaguar_MBA
I agree ..Preach it brother..preach it.
Do you have an engine management solution (EC)U) yet for your current kit?
Do you have an engine management solution (EC)U) yet for your current kit?
Yes we do.We have had it for awhile.It is very similiar to Interceptor -X in the way it works.It is as expensive too.So we priced the kit as a tuner kit and you get everything you need to bolt on a turbo.You just need to handle your own tuning,fuel,etc..........Then we have a complete kit that comes with the ECU,fuel enrichment,boost control,etc...........
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