Japan8

Because there are easier ways to do it. You can buy a civic, swap the engine with a JDM Intergra Type-R engine, add a turbo, intercooler... opps not enough... strip it down, change the crank, pistions, cams and valves, then put a bigger turbo and intercooler on it. Add a gaudy bodykit and another couple thousand in suspension mods. How much have you spent on a Honda Civic?!

The point is, any fool with enough money can make virtually any car into a 500whp drag queen. That is also called "Fast and Furious." But those of us with budgets and/or prefer to look at bang for the buck and reliablity don't see the point in doing that. Sure your Civic drops more than 500whp, and total you spent... $50k? ****... buy a used Viper, Vette, Porsche, or Mustang Cobra. You'll be faster out-of-the-box and if those hp/.25mi numbers are your goal.. you'll be much closer. Just a couple grand more and you'll be there. THAT is the point.

Captain Amazing

Yes, but obviously we arent going to drop an RX-8 for a civic. We want to make some decent hp gains in an RX-8 and nothing else. Different strokes for different folks I guess. Some want an 8 with more power whereas some are content with a stock one.

LiL BenNy

once again you say to get a new car..... theres other desires along with more HP and you know you love your 8 even though everyone can say **** how you car is slow and it still doesnt bother you. because u love your car that damn much. and having a modded civic is gay cuz just about everyone on the planet has one. having an 8 is deff not common. you know you all love it when people check u out driving cuz they dont seem em often. HP wasnt the main priority. have a 500hp civic isnt anything close to having a say 300 hp rx8. even if the 8 is slower theres more to it. plus the 8 is so much nicer than 80% of the cars out there and 99% nicer then any car out there under 35k

Japan8

Dunno about that... Under $30k yes. If you raise the bar to $35k... I dunno. Different strokes for different folks, but...

I like the Legacy GT. I liked it over the last two generations as well. AWD, turbo, boxer engine, and in the current gen. it has a more upscale look. What's there to hate?

I like the G35 coupe. I find the lines nice and classy, while still sporty. Nissan could use to do something about the steering wheel and dash design, but there are worse (like the Evo.).

The GTO isn't bad. I've always hated the ergonomics and interior quality of GM cars, but this isn't such a bad package overal.

The Mustang offers great bang for the buck. The new bodystyle, I like. I could really care less that there a lot of them on the road. Just makes it easier to blend in... think tickets and road rage. It can come in handy. And the last Cobra kicked some ***. Officially the head of development at Ford has said that this next gen Cobra is aimed at the M3. Seeing the Ford GT, there is no question that Ford can build an excellent handling car if that is there goal. This car will really kick some ***.

The Evo is a great package. For purest driving, it's an excellent tool. Too bad it's a Mitsubishi...

The Imprezza STi. What a car! If you want more performance and less luxury, skip the Legacy GT and this is your choice.

This list can go on and on...

All of these cars are faster than an 8 out-of-the-box. Some handle as well or better too. If you are on the unlimited budget trip, any of them can be made to hand a 8 its *** in autocross with the same driver. Anything is possible with enough money. Just about all of them are faster than the 8 in a straight line too. Almost all of these cars have an interior as nice or nicer than the 8's.

Japan8

False dilemma. It's not a divide between "decent" hp gains and purely stock. "decent" is very subjective, some would say that 350whp is decent, others would be say that a simple 50-60whp increase is decent. Just because investing $10k in engine mods to get 350whp is unreasonable to me, doesn't mean that I find spending $3000 for 250whp to be unreasonable.

Also it isn't obvious. You'd probably say the same about a Ford Mustang and the 8, but Speed-ER Doc moved to a '04 Mustang Cobra to replace his totalled 8 and loves it to death.

irish8

- Irish

ethan113

Ok ok well no one has obviously gotten a 12.3 sec on a quarter mile...so we can't possibly answer your question on "how to". Why don't you personally try out one of 2 turbo kits available, with some nitrous and post us your quarter mile timings?
And if somehow you finally manage to do it, we will all be happy and in awe of your 8.

Amen?

Virgil

Hell, anyone can go fast in a straight line, personally I would like a nice round figure of 300hp, maybe 320 to make a nice round three hunskey to the rear wheels and then have a .95 skidpad with a wonderfully tactful suspension.... a well balanced car I can take to the track or my favorite canyon road... who wants to go to the dragstrip and go fast in a straight line when you can take a harpin at 70-80mph and rocket out of the whole up to 120mph?

Outlaws eXtreme

Since it seems money isn't an issue with you, with all the cars you mentioned you have...

Get the Turbo, swap the engine for the 20b, and take out all your interior, remove all the linings, add nitrous, and remold all your exterior carbon fiber, get forged wheels, etc etc... spend another 100k for engineers to fully make the car the fastest RX-8 in the world, and there you have it. 12.3 sec or better. It shouldn't be too much of a problem, just have to spend about $200k+ on the $30k car.

Fanman

Or just spend $60K on the Acosta transformation (includes pretty much everything), and you will be getting 12.3's no sweat.

Outlaws eXtreme

Did Acosta lower the price of their car again? It was 90k+ before.. now it's 60k?

Besides, that car never really proved what it claimed it would do... Whatever happened to the Acosta vs Viper challenge... hmm..

Fanman

That is what I would like. My goal is about 300 whp, and for additional suspension mods, maybe the Greddy rear strut bar (so that my spare kit can fit), and the underbrace. Other than that not sure what else there is, unless I go full coilover. As it is now, my car handles really well, almost telepathic in the steering.

CaptainZoom

I would be more than happy with 250 hp/300 nm in my LP,5 speed 8.
A supercharger with 5 psi boost should be enorgh to get that.
Anyone who sells SC's that's useable??

Fanman

It's $60K for all the mods (engine, tranny, suspension, interior work). You have to supply the car. So, yeah it would be about $90K. Hmmm, I heard it was against a souped up 911. They did have an article on the car in Turbo, supposedly it did dyno around mid 700+ whp, but they were going to swap out the turbo for an R-Trim unit.

Fanman

What's an LP ? No, currently there are no SC's for this car. Ones we have seen that are close to completion are the Pettit Racing & Blitz units. Rumors of an HKS one being way down the horizon. Pettit "high boost" unit was giving about 50 hp.

Outlaws eXtreme

That's the thing.. "they" said it was 700+.. and at one point 900+... but no real proof. Then later on they were to race a Venom Viper or something.. and nothing came out of that. Put on Ebay countless of times, no one bit... afterall, it's still a 90k+ Mazda RX-8.

Nemesis8

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The Atkins family has a supercharged Red RX8 running on the street. Momma Atkins drives it currently.

Genyosai

I'm new here, hope I don't earn a bad rep

You want 12sec or better, buy one of these from me:




All of these now make better than 500rwhp and will get you better than 12sec w/ the SC having the 2JZGTE swap and the IS running the TurboEast kit, and the Supra with the Greddy T88+.

Anyway, I just added to my collection buy getting an RX-8 on Saturday. I've been a huge Toyota fan for years (still am), but have always wanted a rotary Mazda. Being afraid of the quality-issues in the past kept me away from the Rx-7s, but this past Saturday I gave in after another test drive and loving the feel of the car.

One member in this thread mentioned money to burn. Well, I wouldn't say I have money to burn (sounds wasteful), but I do have the means by which to "go the distance" in persuing the 350-400rhwp mark in my 8. I'll definitely have the means once my Supra sells. I plan on applying the majority of the money from the Sale of my Supra (if necessary) to the RX-8. I'd REALLY love to get 400rwhp, reliably (is this a rotary paradox?? Help me out here... I'm new.)

SSR has injector upgrades and mentions this as a must when exceeding the base psi? So, for SSR to answer... how far past base psi can I go with the 550-660cc injectors and what numbers could I expect GIVEN that I get the ECU from you PRE-TUNED to over base psi?

Help me out with info, fellas, and maybe I can be the first in this forum to achieve the dream as well as be the do's and don'ts guinea pig for everyone else :D

Thanks!

ntg-R

shakRpahX8

OKOK
i think he specifically asked for those who ALREADY HAVE GREDDY TURBO
so those of you who DON"T
BE QUIET

rx8pilot

^^^^
Sounds good to me man.. go all out. let's see what she can do.

XDEEDUBBX

The acosta car is a joke! They couldn't back up shyt! Yea they are innovators but thats about it...i mean they were trying to go up against a porsche and a viper while running cut springs? Freekin joke!

cretinx

Actually a 500 whp civic costs about $1500 for the body and $8000 for the B18C + T3/T4 turbo setup.

Best thing to do with a Civic in my opinion though is a K20 swap (that's enough power to weight to smoke an EVO on the highway), and then juice the suspension - those ******* are light and handle great with an LSD in 'em and some nice suspension setups.

cretinx

Man this thread kinda makes me agitated.

You want 12s? Do this.

First, you will need gigantic rear wheels. 285s MINIMUM. I would go with a 305 on an 18" x 10" rim, let it stick out of the fender, who cares. You'll want something like a Nitto or BF Goodrich drag radial back there, or a full out drag slick. Put something small on the front, maybe a 16" x 8".

Next, lets transfer the power to the ground. New clutch time.

THEN - keep the damned suspension STOCK! Don't stiffen up the rear at all or you're going to be spinning like a retard all the time, or worse, wheel hophophop.

Turbo - Get the GReddy kit for all the plumbing. Ditch that intercooler, get a 600 hp rated one. Next, ditch the turbo. Replace it with an FP3065, externally wastegated. Get a $25 manual boost controller and some 550cc/min injectors. Stick those in there, tune the car religiously at 12 psi.

You should be in the 12s at this point. If you can't break 12.3, start adding nitrous in increments of 50. The engine should take it.

army_rx8

^^hmmm i dunno if that would work very well...get teh greddy for teh plumbing....you can't just swap out the turbo..there is no room and teh exhaust manifold has the wastegate built into it...so how can you add a new external one if a bigger turbo won't even fit? besides the tiny greddy turbo is rated to go up to 20psi...granted it won't flow as much air at that rate compared to other turbos...but beggers can't be choosers:p hehe.....personaly i woudl just get an evo 8 they can get low 12's easy....haha but it is a mitsubishi...they are having issues with their car operations...yea i know what else is new right:D

Nemesis8

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Wy not add by weight, 16% aluminum powder fuel, 70% ammonium perchlorate oxidizer, 12 % polybutadiene acrylic acid acrylonitrile which is a binding agent, 2% epoxy used for curing, and iron oxide to help control the burning rate, to a solid rocket booster attached to the sides of the car...