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Old 12-15-2008, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
I've already gone through all of this? Why don't you read my threads about it?

The GReddy flanges are weird. There are no "standard" adapters out there.
Plus, the spot where the GReddy turbo sits will NOT accept another turbo physically as it is.
Hey Jeff..

If an extra $1000 is not enough to get a kit from you. How much money do you need to get this done? I don't have any other options.
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Originally Posted by mysql
and it wouldn't put you anywhere close to 1/2 way to the MM 3071R upgrade turbo.
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because the 3071 is like the bestest turbo evar made by man
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Originally Posted by Brettus
because the 3071 is like the bestest turbo evar made by man
No, it's because your upgraded wheel barely changes anything. What you have is the equivalent of adding pulleys to the RX-8. Enjoy your 10 hp.
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Originally Posted by Brettus
because the 3071 is like the bestest turbo evar made by man
YESSSSS!!!!!

Well, in that package constraint, maybe.
Or something to that effect.

I KNOW you've seen the flow map (you've even quoted it), so there really isn't much to add here.
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You need to look at your application and figure out the max hp you plan to hit.

For almost all of us, this is 400 whp.

The 3071R can hit 400, while still spooling just as fast as the small greddy turbo. I haven't yet seen anything better suited for the RX-8.
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the flow map suggests it's (almost) half way there - you obviously know more about it than the guys that did the maps ....

pretty pointless argument - for the most part i agree with you anyway
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Originally Posted by Brettus
the flow map suggests it's (almost) half way there - you obviously know more about it than the guys that did the maps ....

pretty pointless argument - for the most part i agree with you anyway
Show me 350, then I'll eat my words I bet you'll start generating a ton of heat and won't get past 315.
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anyway - I was just trying to offer a suggestion for an improvement given that MM wont get off his *** and just sell him the good stuff already
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Originally Posted by mysql

For almost all of us, this is 400 whp.

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dont agree with this at all - most people are just looking for an upgrade from stock - not a monster .
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Agreed, I will quite easily and enjoyably live with just over 300 to the wheels when I finally do go FI.
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Originally Posted by Brettus
dont agree with this at all - most people are just looking for an upgrade from stock - not a monster .
You do agree with it. The only way you don't agree with it is if you want more than 400. Most people aren't willing to go that far.

You want the fastest spooling turbo that can flow the most. While 400 is possible, no one said you had to go that far.

Even if you were completely happy at 270 whp, the 3071R is better than the greddy. You can reach that 270 with the 3071R with less PSI and the charge temp is cooler.
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I think everyone here has a sensible point. There really isn't much of an argument.

I have ALWAYS maintained that, if you have a goal in mind first, ANY choice is sensible as long as it supports that goal.

The questions of durability and long-term satisfaction are really hard to address.
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When I purchased the 3071R, it wasn't to make more power. It was to get rid of the greddy unit. Friggin' thing had been rebuilt twice. It made no sense to continue to use it.
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/\ but if you can't actually get one it is pointless even thinking about it .....
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Originally Posted by mysql
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The 3071R can hit 400, .
and another thing

where is this 400hp dyno - is it something only divulged to the fanbois club or what ?
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You have to join the fanboi club to become a believer.
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Originally Posted by Brettus
and another thing

where is this 400hp dyno - is it something only divulged to the fanbois club or what ?
Yeah, I've pretty much decided that I'm in no mood to deal with the ****-storm that plot will produce, so I'm staying with the print-outs provided by regular customers.
As they say, your mileage may vary.
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Well the the plot should be posted. The thread stickied and locked!
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And then it will get quoted, cross-posted and shat upon.

I just don't see the point in teasing people. 315 out-of-the-box is plenty.
If you want more, the blueprint is out there.

Honestly, I turn the power down when I'm out on track. There really isn't much use in having more than 360 or so on a street car on street tires.

During Auto-X this weekend, I turned my boost controller OFF because it was so slick and cold on the tarmac. Ended up with a better time.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Yeah, I've pretty much decided that I'm in no mood to deal with the ****-storm that plot will produce, so I'm staying with the print-outs provided by regular customers.
As they say, your mileage may vary.
So - you have no customers that have even got close to what you have done with the turbo ?
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Originally Posted by Brettus
So - you have no customers that have even got close to what you have done with the turbo ?
I don't know.
I don't think so.

Most are not running as aggressive a tune as I am (hard to provide without hands-on calibration), or as much fuel.
I don't know who else has W/M, either. That is a big part of it.

There is another car here in Phoenix that will probably end up pretty close once we get it on the dyno.
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better tell us who it is so we can harrass him . LOL
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Chickenwafer would be my guess...
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Yeah, ChickenWafer..

Here is the formula:

GReddy turbo system + MM upgrade + W/M injection + big injectors + good boost controller + BHR catalog = BIG POWAH
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Originally Posted by Brettus
better tell us who it is so we can harrass him . LOL
Stop sending me dirty underwear, bitch!!


LOL, I'm going to get on the dyno soon, I promise.

Lets just say there will be some Q16 in the tank


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