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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 12:06 PM
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Performance Mods.

Hey guys, I'm pretty new to the rotary scene. Just wanted to get some info on the 8 before I try and FI. Anyway, some background info on me: My name's Dan, I reside in Norfolk, Virginia , I'm currently in the Army and I'm 19. '05 RX8 6Speed Manual, 54k chassis, 15k replaced motor.

Quick rundown on some "starting" mods
-AEM Intake
-Greddy / Mazdaspeed Exhaust System
-BHR Ignition System
-Cobb Accessport Flash Tuner

Now, the real question. I plan on hitting 300-350RWHP. I know I have to go FI. My budget is around $6-7k USD. Which is more safer/reliable for a daily driver, super charger or turbo? Which SC / TC is the "best bang for your buck" as well? I know Petit is discontinued, and I believe hymee is $12,000, what other Superchargers are there? I was looking into Esmeril, & Turblown's kits. But what it really comes down to is, which is more suitable for an RX8, which is more reliable.

Thanks for reading, I look forward to being apart of this community.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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OMG seriously dude.
Delete this thread.
And asking which is better TC or SC is damn near a religious question on this forum.
You'll have to decide yourself, honestly.

Now put your flame suit on... horrible reason to start a new thread ... and your first.


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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 12:28 PM
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lol @ 350rwhp + "reliable" w/ $6K
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by oD4No
Hey guys, I'm pretty new to the rotary scene. Just wanted to get some info on the 8 before I try and FI. Anyway, some background info on me: My name's Dan, I reside in Norfolk, Virginia , I'm currently in the Army and I'm 19. '05 RX8 6Speed Manual, 54k chassis, 15k replaced motor.

Quick rundown on some "starting" mods
-AEM Intake
-Greddy / Mazdaspeed Exhaust System
-BHR Ignition System
-Cobb Accessport Flash Tuner

Now, the real question. I plan on hitting 300-350RWHP. I know I have to go FI. My budget is around $6-7k USD. Which is more safer/reliable for a daily driver, super charger or turbo? Which SC / TC is the "best bang for your buck" as well? I know Petit is discontinued, and I believe hymee is $12,000, what other Superchargers are there? I was looking into Esmeril, & Turblown's kits. But what it really comes down to is, which is more suitable for an RX8, which is more reliable.

Thanks for reading, I look forward to being apart of this community.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 12:37 PM
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Have fun with what you have, take an advanced driving course, stick some decent tyres on it,service and maintain it well, and enjoy.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 12:38 PM
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There's no best bang for the bucks in the car performance world. You always get what you pay for.

To achieve your goal of 300rwhp you will need around 9\10k for the turbo build and be ready to grenade your first engine, especially if it was a simple mazda reman. After that factor in anything between 4500 and 7000$ for a decent engine build.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by paimon.soror
lol @ 350rwhp + "reliable" w/ $6K
Esmeril kit w/ Billet 62mm, runs for $5.8k , supposed to be 414WHP
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 12:52 PM
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 12:53 PM
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Yes... and a search would tell you what the users have to deal with after they buy that thing.
Take a look at turblown's turbo kit, factor in the cost for a sohn adapter, pcm flasher, install, boost controller (electronic), injectors and yadda yadda and then report back on the price.
Oh, add a midpipe because the catalytic converter won't last, bhr coils because the oe ones won't be enough etc, too.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 12:58 PM
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not to mention all the cooling mods that come with FI
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by oD4No
Esmeril kit w/ Billet 62mm, runs for $5.8k , supposed to be 414WHP
and an awesome second post for someone.

Originally Posted by bse50
Yes... and a search would tell you what the users have to deal with after they buy that thing.
Take a look at turblown's turbo kit, factor in the cost for a sohn adapter, pcm flasher, install, boost controller (electronic), injectors and yadda yadda and then report back on the price.
Oh, add a midpipe because the catalytic converter won't last, bhr coils because the oe ones won't be enough etc, too.
^^ +1

A good example is 9krpmrx8's build thread if you want to see the troubles people go through. He's already gone well past your budget and is shooting for lower numbers.

Check Chris's thread for a budget build that is on the high end of your budget and shooting for lower numbers.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 01:01 PM
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Turblown looks like the only real option, based on what I've found. I have only been here a week or so but I've been scouring the FI forums to make sure I didn't miss anything.

At least you got an S1, you could have an S2 with no viable FI options

It would be cheaper to buy an RX-7 if you must have a rotary turbo
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 01:04 PM
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^ 2 out of 3 ain't bad

Turblown looks like a good option, but you and the OP are overlooking all of the supporting mods that you will need to keep the car running.

srsly
Thank you for doing some research. It seems rare these days.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 01:07 PM
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Turblown looks like a good option, but you and the OP are overlooking all of the supporting mods that you will need to keep the car running.
Sorry for not being more clear - the turblown kit + all of the necessary bits is the only solution I'd consider, if I had an S1 It's not even close to OP's budget, hence my Rx-7 suggestion
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 01:09 PM
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SC is more realiable OP
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 01:11 PM
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Sorry for not being more clear - the turblown kit + all of the necessary bits is the only solution I'd consider, if I had an S1 It's not even close to OP's budget, hence my Rx-7 suggestion
I was just giving you ****. I figured buy your edumacated post that's what you really meant.

Looks like they can do S2, but the EMS is expensive.

spot on about just buying a boosted 7, even though they aren't known for being ultra reliable either.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 02:06 PM
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I know your new, but you might get far more enjoyment out of your car by taking that 6-7k and spending it on sticky tires/light wheels and suspension mods, just a thought
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 02:30 PM
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gotcha, appreciate the info.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 02:46 AM
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only $12 on ebay

does the same thing right?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FAKE-TURB...item2564f8c3f0
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 06:24 AM
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The whistles go "Woo Woo"

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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 06:39 AM
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I think you should get on ebay and buy both that way you will get twice the power with none of the draw backs.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 08:19 AM
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by oD4No
Esmeril kit w/ Billet 62mm, runs for $5.8k , supposed to be 414WHP
just like an extra rotor for $1200 (titanium), supposed to be 1000whp
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 11:31 AM
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and thats an easy, realiable DIY mod
maybe you should do that
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 11:40 AM
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I need NOS... one of the big ones... no, make it two
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