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MazsportScott 04-24-2006 08:36 PM

New Turbo Kit!
 
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As some of you know we have been working on a "Major Horsepower Upgrade" and here are the results from the latest dyno runs. All runs were performed in fifth gear using 93 pump gas and of course our Interceptor-X E.M.S. We have been asked for an upgrade to the GReddy Turbo Kit, so these results are using the GReddy intercooler and up-tube for customers that don't want to remove the bumper cover for a fresh install. I will have a complete component list, cost and ETA soon. thanks,Scott

1. 5 psi boost controller off
2. 7.5 psi
3. 9 psi
4. Shooting for 12 psi but the ignition system is giving up.

brillo 04-24-2006 08:40 PM

300WHP on 5psi? Holy Crap!!!

Now that is impressive stuff.

mysql101 04-24-2006 08:52 PM

nice.. I may hold off on the idea of getting higher gearing on my NA car.

OfficerFarva 04-24-2006 08:52 PM

Wow, nice numbers.

dannobre 04-24-2006 08:53 PM

Looks Good.......More particulars would be appreciated.........

Daver 04-24-2006 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by dannobre
Looks Good.......More particulars would be appreciated.........

ditto

MazsportScott 04-24-2006 09:01 PM

BTW at the shop this is what we refer to as a torque shelf, the term curve would indicate a noticable drop in performance:rock:

therm8 04-24-2006 09:02 PM

wow...

Is this going to be only an upgrade, or a full kit?

Daver 04-24-2006 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by MazsportScott
BTW at the shop this is what we refer to as a torque shelf, the term curve would indicate a noticable drop in performance:rock:

Well now I know were my money is going when I get back from the desert.

MazsportScott 04-24-2006 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by therm8
wow...

Is this going to be only an upgrade, or a full kit?

We will offer it in both versions. I expect better results with our Intercooler,ductwork and intake system. Scott

therm8 04-24-2006 09:13 PM

Ahh, then comes the age old question.....

4 port support? :)

NgoRX8 04-24-2006 09:16 PM

WOW... 300 whp at 5psi!!!!!!! CRAZY STUFF! now I have to think

MazsportScott 04-24-2006 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by therm8
Ahh, then comes the age old question.....

4 port support? :)

YES! We actually have an Interceptor-X equipped turbo car testing right now.

Fanman 04-24-2006 09:46 PM

Very interesting Scott. Just curious though, Manuel from Puerto Rico used to run his Greddy unit all the way up past 12 psi, but stated that it rapidly loses it's efficiency at above 12-13 psi & becomes a heat unit. Were you able to bypass that...new housing on the turbo ? Can't wait to see the components of this one.

mike1324a 04-24-2006 10:05 PM

Yeah Scott! You really have my attention on this one! I want to know a price (ballpark). I really want to see pics and vids! This looks very good. nice job!

Skythe 04-24-2006 10:22 PM

a consistent 200 ft / lbs of torque from 5 psi. That's fuckin great. Shit that alone will make a world of a difference.

Does it make me gay if I'm being turned on by this?

stickmantijuana 04-24-2006 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by Skythe
Does it make me gay if I'm being turned on by this?

yes it does. :mdrmed:

MadDog 04-24-2006 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by Fanman
Very interesting Scott. Just curious though, Manuel from Puerto Rico used to run his Greddy unit all the way up past 12 psi, but stated that it rapidly loses it's efficiency at above 12-13 psi & becomes a heat unit. Were you able to bypass that...new housing on the turbo ? Can't wait to see the components of this one.


He's using a different, larger turbo than the GReddy T618Z.

rkostolni 04-24-2006 10:36 PM

Great numbers. I believe this now rivals the PTP kit. Can't wait to see some more details about the kit.

MrWigggles 04-24-2006 10:40 PM

I have a few questions:

1. Are these Dynos to-the-wheels or have they been adjusted to be at-the-crank? 300HP on 5PSI is very impressive.

2. The 7.5 PSI and 12 PSI curves have glitches in them, but not the 9PSI. Is there a good reason for this or is there a fuel management issue your guys are still working out?

3. You mentioned "Shooting for 12 psi but the ignition system is giving up." Did you mean full system? It seems a little odd that the igniton would give out early. Why would it care about what boost you were running?

I have many standard questions that I'm sure will be answered in your official product announcement.

Sounds promissing.

-Mr. Wigggles

Skythe 04-24-2006 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by stickmantijuana
yes it does. :mdrmed:

Thank you sir, I appreciate your honesty.

swoope 04-25-2006 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by MazsportScott
YES! We actually have an Interceptor-X equipped turbo car testing right now.

great job again,

i cant wait to hear / see more, my ? is so it drops off at higher rpm and it is directly related to boost??? and you got the cc working with the turbo??


just an observation.. you are going to cost me money!!!

beers :beer:

btw, linky no worky

Raptor2k 04-25-2006 12:20 AM

I wouldn't mind a good 100 ponies or so. Show us a reasonable price.

Discman2 04-25-2006 12:24 AM

so..... hows that 4 porter coming along?

:mdrmed:

Any info on that in regards to hp/tq numbers?

Ajax 04-25-2006 12:39 AM

Nice work, Scott.
That curve is so linear, it looks stock, lol.

I look forward to more details :)

florent75 04-25-2006 02:57 AM

really nice


I like it ...

so if you've got a bundle price ...??



before I didn't like the greddy urbo kit cause you've got more power between 7000-7500 rpm than 7500-8000 : it was not more rpm more hp ...


now with the dyno I can see this ... so you keep the spirit of the rx8 more rpm ... more hp

itsallaboutgary 04-25-2006 03:24 AM

alright scott, i think all of us socal people need to pitch in for a group buy plane ticket for you to install and tune our cars. haha how about that. =)

crimson-rain 04-25-2006 06:09 AM

Hey Scott, SWEET job. Very sweet. You bested Greddy on their own product I'd say.

Question: on the 7.5 psi, what's that sharp dip at 8K RPMs? Why is 7.5 psi dip like that and 5 psi stays so smooth? Is that fuel starvation problem or something?

carbonRX8 04-25-2006 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by MrWigggles
3. You mentioned "Shooting for 12 psi but the ignition system is giving up." Did you mean full system? It seems a little odd that the igniton would give out early. Why would it care about what boost you were running?

The more pressure a combustable mixture is under, the more energy it takes to ignite that mix. The stock system is not designed to ignite a compressed mix and simply gets "blown-out" or rather, by-passed. Typical problem on boosted cars.

guy321 04-25-2006 06:58 AM

Hmmm, wish I'd heard about this a week ago, then I wouldn't have gotten my bike.. :/ Oh well. I got 71 horses extra horses.

Too bad, I'm only 20 minutes away!

Moostafa29 04-25-2006 07:09 AM

Great results Scott, temps me further to stay turbo.

Dro 04-25-2006 07:29 AM

AWESOME !!!!

And I only have three years, nine months to go. By then you should have everything worked out, the price will be lower than it will be initially and the numbers will be even more impressive !!!!!

Aseras 04-25-2006 09:32 AM

Way to go Scott.. finally we are getting somewhere...

Now if you can pull it off for ~ $5K I'd drive down from Vero and buy it tomorrow...

Wurmfist 04-25-2006 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by Dro
AWESOME !!!!

And I only have three years, nine months to go. By then you should have everything worked out, the price will be lower than it will be initially and the numbers will be even more impressive !!!!!


Same here but I have less than two years. Was thinking about staying NA, but with this system I would deffinatly have a lot of fun with 5 psi.

DARKMAZ8 04-25-2006 09:44 AM

How much for the complete kit and where do I sign up????

epitrochoid 04-25-2006 10:09 AM

you could build a house on that torque shelf!!! delicious!

i'll bet that was with some pretty warm and humid intake air as well..i'll be interested to see what it runs when temps are in the 60's

dmp 04-25-2006 10:59 AM

is it worth losing 1000rpms of available rev-range? Any way to tune the system to 8400?

rotarygod 04-25-2006 11:07 AM

You need to just not think that an absolute high redline is always necessary. It isn't I'd rather have an engine that only revs to 7500 rpm and makes the power I need rather than one that revs to 9000 rpm and makes the power I need. Higher RPM's shorten an engine's lifespan. Just keep it low. I'm sure he can still go higher yet as it appears that the ignition is preventing him from doing so but power is power no matter where you have it.

This is a complete slap in the face to all the people who say a Renesis can't handle boost. Basically 350 hp and counting on pump gas and high compression.

dmp 04-25-2006 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by rotarygod
This is a complete slap in the face to all the people who say a Renesis can't handle boost. Basically 350 hp and counting on pump gas and high compression.


But truthfully - we won't know if the Renesis can handle 350hp until months or years from now. 350hp 'might' be a temporary thing. I know Miatas can handle 230-250whp for years because of FlyinMiata. Has anyone had even 300whp in an RX8 for more than a few months? Test of time is important; I'm sure you'd agree.

:)

Sapphonica 04-25-2006 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by rotarygod
You need to just not think that an absolute high redline is always necessary. It isn't I'd rather have an engine that only revs to 7500 rpm and makes the power I need rather than one that revs to 9000 rpm and makes the power I need. Higher RPM's shorten an engine's lifespan. Just keep it low. I'm sure he can still go higher yet as it appears that the ignition is preventing him from doing so but power is power no matter where you have it.

This is a complete slap in the face to all the people who say a Renesis can't handle boost. Basically 350 hp and counting on pump gas and high compression.

Not all pump gas is created equal. I think they get 93.5 or 94 in Florida.

cleoent 04-25-2006 11:47 AM

looks awesome, sounds expensive. Very expensive.

RX Guy 04-25-2006 11:52 AM

Just as I convinced myself to stay NA. Must fight temptation. :tear:

DreamWarrior 04-25-2006 12:04 PM

Sweet...and I'm moving right next to y'all in three days! I'll have to stop by the shop?! I've been waiting with baited breath ever since I decided I was going to FL to see what y'all would come up with!

Mazdaspeed RX8 ver2 04-25-2006 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by RX Guy
Just as I convinced myself to stay NA. Must fight temptation. :tear:

I know how you feel! I was about to buy a turbo 2 FC rx7 for about $5000 but i dont know anymore! I dont know what i want, this kit or the turbo'd 7... :dunno: Hopefully the kit is reliable enough. I guess i'll wait it out and see the long term effects of the turbo on the 8.

rotarygod 04-25-2006 12:08 PM

There is no reason why this can't be reliable. the engine can handle it. What it can't handle is most people's right foots.

I constantly see excuses from all parts of the country. Their gas is better than ours. Their gas is higher octane, etc, etc... I don't belive this as a valid excuse for a second.

dmp 04-25-2006 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by rotarygod
There is no reason why this can't be reliable. the engine can handle it. What it can't handle is most people's right foots.

I hope that's the case...goes for the tranny and axles and rear end, too :)

Raptor2k 04-25-2006 12:20 PM

How much is the Interceptor? And what exactly is it? help a n00b out

The interceptor thread is about 51 pages long, so don't even try it. I just want a synopsis.

BigOLundh 04-25-2006 12:23 PM

Congrats Scott. These numbers are looking really good.

-hS

Renesis_8 04-25-2006 12:38 PM

That torque SHELF is too crazy, what a change from the Greddy turbo curves, i am amazed you can still retain the NA torque shelf in a turbo-ed renesis. Good tuning Scott! + linear power delivery too!! omg, i want that car, its a crazy machine. I am satisfied with 5psi!
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Flirty18 live

Dro 04-25-2006 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Raptor2k
How much is the Interceptor? And what exactly is it? help a n00b out

Raptor2k: "i pwn nubz"

Posts: 1,992

wtf ? its exactly as the name implys; Interceptor X EMS
did you even check the official mazsport site for info ?

http://www.mazsport.net/html/index.html wtf ?


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