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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by WaRdaWg3
Granted I am noob to RX8Club.com, but I am wondering why I should not believe what MM says? Proof of the matter is every month, if not more often, people are having dyno meets and flying him in to do the tunes and tweaks.
MM is great and incredibly knowledgeable, but you shouldn't treat anything anybody says as gospel. That being said, I'd take MM's opinion over almost anybody else's on this forum, especially when it comes to FI and tuning the 8.
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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Yeah , MM seems to hit the mark 95% of the time - but no one is right 100% of the time .
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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I agree because 5 out of 4 people suck at fractions.
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by WaRdaWg3
Granted I am noob to RX8Club.com, but I am wondering why I should not believe what MM says? Proof of the matter is every month, if not more often, people are having dyno meets and flying him in to do the tunes and tweaks.

With all the knowledge that he has, He is still human. Thats not to say that he is wrong on this subject cause I have no clue, but it's possible for a person to be wrong.


But wait he's not human, He's a maniac!
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by truemagellen
PLEASE NOTE: Mazdaparts.com and Esmeril Racing offer the dump to atmosphere design for tracked cars only (free of charge)...it is not our responsibility if you do not follow through with these guidelines.
I lol'ed at this ex-post-facto edit, but it does address some of the legitimate questions (albeit with an illegitimate answer since this kit is being marketed as a street kit, regarless of how it is actually being sold)

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But wait he's not human, He's a maniac!
• Some say he never blinks, and that he roams around the woods at night foraging for wolves...
• Some say he’s wanted by the CIA, and that he sleeps upside down like a bat...
• Some say he appears on high value stamps in Sweden, and that he can catch fish with his tongue...
• Some say he is illegal in 17 US states, and he blinks horizontally...
• Some say that his breath smells of magnesium, and that he’s scared of bells...
• Some say he naturally faces magnetic north, and that all his legs are hydraulic...

Originally Posted by Brettus
Yeah , MM seems to hit the mark 95% of the time - but no one is right 100% of the time .
Though I agree with this in principle, I'd love to see some concrete examples of the other 5%. lol

Something I learned very early in life:

Ask never a question for which you haven't already the answer.


If you truly are in need of an answer, search, don't ask.
You will never truly have your questions answered by an answer. Only a search can fulfill that need.

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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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MM is The Stig! I knew it
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by laythor
MM is The Stig! I knew it
If only...
That distinction goes to Damon Hill.
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
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Though I agree with this in principle, I'd love to see some concrete examples of the other 5%. lol
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Is that a challenge ?

Originally Posted by MazdaManiac

Something I learned very early in life:

Ask never a question for which you haven't already the answer.


If you truly are in need of an answer, search, don't ask.
You will never truly have your questions answered by an answer. Only a search can fulfill that need.
So you don't ask questions if you don't know the answer - but are quite happy to search for others who asked the question and got an answer ?hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
Is that a challenge ?
Always. I know the 5% is out there. Go find it.

Originally Posted by Brettus
So you don't ask questions if you don't know the answer - but are quite happy to search for others who asked the question and got an answer
Not exactly, but that's a start.
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Something I learned very early in life:

Ask never a question for which you haven't already the answer.


If you truly are in need of an answer, search, don't ask.
You will never truly have your questions answered by an answer. Only a search can fulfill that need.
that just blew my mind
i need some
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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Listen MM you definitely have outstanding knowledge when it comes to tuning, the AP (of course), and many other subjects. Just lots of people do take you as the gospel on the RX-8 club when it comes to Rotaries and in reality you are still very much an amateur relation to others in the world of Rotaries.

Your confidence on the other hand is very developed and you are highly assertive so people fall in line...meanwhile you have never taken a Rotary over 800hp (and NEITHER have I) but there are many who have and they would disagree with you on many points.

I just wish you would be more humble about your knowledge, we know you have lots of it...but for those who are deep in this world (and I would consider you in deep) many do not respect you like you deserve to be respected since you usually pretend to know everything and criticize different information instead of researching it. Meanwhile if you did seek out those who know infinitely more then you and learned a bit more instead of telling (as you are obviously a great teacher, seriously that is your forte) you would gain that respect.

On a side note the AP and other products like it are the key to unlocking this engine and simplify tuning for a whole new generation of RX-8 owners...do I or other Rotary enthusiasts have the knowledge that you do on this subject? ABSOLUTELY NOT...that is where we are humble...we are looking towards you and that project with bright eyes wondering what you can accomplish...I wish you would look with bright eyes onto others in the community.

This was written with sincerity and respect.
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Always. I know the 5% is out there.

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that's good enough for me - if you had tried to claim you were right 100% of the time I could have had some fun ....

edit: on second thoughts - perhaps not so much fun .
You seem to have an uncanny ability to make it look like you are right (to most onlookers) even if you aren't , so arguing with you can be pretty futile ......

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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by truemagellen
meanwhile you have never taken a Rotary over 800hp (and NEITHER have I) but there are many who have and they would disagree with you on many points.
Actually...

Originally Posted by truemagellen
I just wish you would be more humble about your knowledge,
Why? How would that benefit me?

Originally Posted by truemagellen
since you usually pretend to know everything and criticize different information instead of researching it.
Oh, really?

Originally Posted by Brettus
You seem to have an uncanny ability to make it look like you are right (to most onlookers) even if you aren't , so arguing with you can be pretty futile ......
Be careful with that.
"Look like I'm right"? How do you do that? By presenting facts and sound logical syllogism?
Assertion, no matter the quality, is only that. I don't assert anything.
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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Be careful with that.
"Look like I'm right"? How do you do that? By presenting facts and sound logical syllogism?
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Agree - most of the time you do that .

Syllogism ...... kind of looks like 'silly orgasm' if you squint when you look at it
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
Agree - most of the time you do that .
The rest of the time I assert things for which I have already made the logical argument elsewhere.
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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but sometimes your "facts" are not necessarily syllogistically irrefutable .
heh - i just looked that word up - hope I used it right .
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
but sometimes your "facts" are not necessarily syllogistically irrefutable .

rather than bicker on the definition of "sometimes", point out something specifically and show irrefutable proof of his error.
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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well - there was the time MM argued that the reason my speedo read 160km/hr (100mph) in 3rd gear was because i had smaller tyres on than stock .
Was later proved beyond any doubt that JDM 8's have a different 3rd gear ratio than US 8's.
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
well - there was the time MM argued that the reason my speedo read 160km/hr (100mph) in 3rd gear was because i had smaller tyres on than stock .
Was later proved beyond any doubt that JDM 8's have a different 3rd gear ratio than US 8's.
thats all haha
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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Lol back to the vent to atmosphere , i really like the sound of vented wastegates. Yeah it's loud but i think it sounds bad ***. I'd have it on my car just for the sound , call me rice i dont care lol. I like being obnoxious 3 inch single straight exhaust no cats or resonater ftw. This is how i get back at cops , drive by their houses when they go to sleep muhahaha
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 11:18 PM
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Lol back to the vent to atmosphere , i really like the sound of vented wastegates. Yeah it's loud but i think it sounds bad ***. I'd have it on my car just for the sound , call me rice i dont care lol. I like being obnoxious 3 inch single straight exhaust no cats or resonater ftw.
Alright its time to release the Esmeril Racing 4 inch exhaust system


Made me think of this:

"Fark Everything, We're Doing Five Blades" - Gillette CEO

(Onion satire)

NSFW language:
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33930
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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 01:05 AM
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4 inch exhaust is retarded

it's like having jessica alba and suddenly you want Keira Knightley
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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
well - there was the time MM argued that the reason my speedo read 160km/hr (100mph) in 3rd gear was because i had smaller tyres on than stock .
Was later proved beyond any doubt that JDM 8's have a different 3rd gear ratio than US 8's.
First, I'd love to see that thread.
Second, the JDM spec does NOT have different ratios.
Unless you have the 5-speed, there are no differences in gear ratios in any market for the Y6M. They are all 1.645 in 3rd gear.
How, ignoring the facts for a moment, was it "proved beyond any doubt"?
What "scientific" method was employed? Took the tranny apart?

Originally Posted by Brettus
but sometimes your "facts" are not necessarily syllogistically irrefutable.
ALL arguments can be broken down to syllogism.
If you can't refute something by syllogism, then it is correct.
The problem is, people want to base arguments on bad premises.
Global warming.
Religion.
Speedometers.

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4 inch exhaust is retarded

it's like having jessica alba and suddenly you want Keira Knightley
Several of the Rolex teams use a 4" exhaust.
These are N/A cars, too.

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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 01:24 AM
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First, I'd love to see that thread.
Second, the JDM spec does NOT have different ratios.
Unless you have the 5-speed, there are no differences in gear ratios in any market for the Y6M. They are all 1.645 in 3rd gear.
How, ignoring the facts for a moment, was it "proved beyond any doubt"?
What "scientific" method was employed? Took the tranny apart?

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hope you are prepared for some pwnage - heh

https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discussion-3/speed-3rd-gear-103670/

Originally Posted by dynamho
Thread answered.

Just as I thought, the Japanese spec RX-8 S-Type, the high-powered 6MT version has 1.530 as 3rd gear ratio as opposed to US spec 1.645 to match the higher output of the Japanese version.

Image attached.

Thanks for sharing your observation Brettus!
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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 01:30 AM
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I say NOOO to 4 inch exhaust, mostly cus they will have an issue fitting with our car

MM is never right, that's why my car is running perfectly and doesn't have a dead motor and my Nitrous runs 100 shot no problem and my EMU ran fine with no tune

etc etc etc
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