If your buying this for HP gains NA...your barking up the wrong tree....

It provides a small improvement...but that's not what it was designed for

i agree with charles... i think that its a great thing that they have done and a giant step forward. the only reason i was so concerned about it is that i am going nitrous which means most of the time my car will be drivin without a power adder. Thus i was currious on what the effects were when not on the bottle. Eitherway i do not see how it would be a bad investment for anyone with an 8. sooner or later you will replace your coils anyway so why not upgrade to a top notch product.

So it in fact has not been posted, dear god it has taken me 5 posts to get a simple question answered.:icon_no2:

I just want the following before I fork over $600 in cash.

Pictures of the product, Dyno Sheet and specifics on the car that was tested (other modifications, ect...), that is it.

They have the Dyno sheets, they know what car it was tested on and they should have pictures since it is already in a couple of cars.

I understand that.

Just looking for validation of product, all the information should be easily available.

No problem. I was just thinking that when I get mine and install it I would do a side by side of my own as an additional data point. My coils only have about 1500 miles on them with my new motor, plugs, wires so I figured that would be about as good a comparo of what fresh stock coils can do vs. the upgrade.

It didn't take long for the naysayers to start pooping in this thread did it?:)

I'm saying I would like more details about a product before I just blindly hand over cash.

exactly my thoughts ... don't need it now but will definitely buy later this year (2008). thanks for the hp posts.

real quick comment on dd's behalf ... some of you guys keep commenting on how good scott is and his company. with all due respect, i don't know him from adam. the fact that you guys know him and trust him is great, and it does make me more inclined to trust him and/or his product, but all i know from this thread is some guy named "scott" made something that he SAYS gained 11 hp but his dyno chart doesn't SHOW that he did ... this day in age i'd rather see it that just take his word simply because i don't know him, that's all ... not trying to hate, but just think of when you buy other things online from people you don't know or a company you've never ordered from -- i know i'm a lot more hesitant when there are no pictures of the product or the claims are different then the chart showing.

just my perspective ... thanks for all the comments and clarifications though.

^^Feel free to do a little research.

Mazsport has a whole forum vendor section in this forum for his shop with all of his products and customers. PM some of them and read some of their product threads. No one's asking you to sign up with someone on faith. Just do a little research on what's readily available on this website and decide for yourself.

Look at the graph he posted....it's 10-15HP over some of the range......

7.5-8K.......20ish?

If your just looking for a Peak HP increase...you need to learn how to interpret a dyno plot ;)

Actually the original post never marketed it as a HP increase... it was marketed as a soulution to the ignition problem to let the turbo increase the HP the car can put down instead of being limited to spark. it just got twisted into us talking about it adding horse on an N/A car

Here is the final dyno run after the brief cool down, sorry for the delay guys.

This has definitely been added the Project8 wishlist! ha.

Thanks Scott, could you send us a couple of pics so we know what it looks like and where it was relocated to?

On a side note if it is permited who's car was used? Just wondering what kinda setup they were running in addition to this.

I know Scott, he is a good guy and he knows his RX's. I'm just more interested in the details of the product. I just might ask nopistons to pop his hood for me at the next meet.

i didn't mean to upset anyone, i was just trying to give an outsider's perspective on how shady SOME sellers are on the internet.

shaunv74 -- i was just browsing this thread, i'm not in the market for this now -- but i always research products myself before i buy them, for a car or anything else, but keep in mind that is why this forum is here, so others can help answers questions more readily.

anyway, sounds like a great product, i look forward to getting it when i'm done milking my warranty!! :)

No shadiness from Mazsport....may have a bit of a staffing shortage ;)

I do the same, I just like to see and know what I'm getting.

i would also like to see pics...as my coils have already been relocated...
so, on that note, i wouldnt need longer wires...
:D:

^^ no but you would still need new wires :D: ..different ends on the coils

what's the shipping like to Melbourne, VIC 3000, Australia?

i know someone posted this somewhere else. but would attaching a heatsink (like the ones used for graphics cards) onto the mounting bracket and using a thermal paste in between the two, make for even better cooling?

or it would it just be inconsequential?

Mostly inconsequential.
The bottom of the coil is resin, which is not particularly thermally conductive.
Moving the coils out of the wash from the rad fans would be more effective, though the thermal load is mostly and electrical issue, not an ambient heat issue.

Does anyone know if this will work on European Rx8 ?

Thank you.

16. Dave - Rexate3141(paid)

Yes...other than some small differences they are the same

17. Slavearm (Paid)

well guys i wanted to give you a little more in-depth evaluation of the mazsport coil packs that i have been using...

first i would like to give you a bit of additional information since its in question. performance mods on the car are as follows:
-hks legamax exhaust
-3" mid pipe
-mazsport fuel pump
-k and n drop in filter
and mods that i wont impact the dyno but to be thorough;
-REVI ram air duct
-mazsport cooling fan control mod

i also have had a compression check done recently on the car and revealed some pretty good results;
front housing
8.8, 9.2,9.3 @289
rear housing
9.2, 9.2, 9.3 @290

with that behind us my evaluation;

the car is definitely peppier... when i hammer my foot around 3500 rpms the car just gets up and goes.... it really starts to pound the through the upper rpms starting at 7000 rpms... in fact you have to really listen for the beep because she comes really quick...

outside of that i would like to let everyone know a little bit of a side note... these dyno charts were done on 87 octane fuel... so everyone should feel what i do... so i would deff suggest purchasing these guys...


i would be happy to answer any more question anyone might have...

Is there any way we can get a certain color (blue) for the spark plug wires? I kind of have that color all over my engine bay...

Seems like quite a few people would be really happy if you could snap a pic, but I understand if you can't.
Anyway, I suppose if they don't belly up here within about six hours, it will just cost them roughly $75.00 or so more dollars.

Man, I didn't think of that.....I'd like to have blue as well. Probably too late and I'll bet they have nuttin but red. I'll ask Betsy and see if at all possible.

I just pleaded our case..............we'll see what happens!

They are blue wires guys, super low resistance as well. That clock is ticking:)

If there's a choice, I'd like red.

Blue works for me.

double d sends...

+1

my engine bay is full of red.

If not black will work.

With the engine cover on you will not be able to see the wires anyway unless you really really look

since when im off the list?
btw...i've just paid!

18 Brettus

is it only blue, or can we get it in red as well?

i'd prefer red.

19. a_ahlan (paid)

so this is a similar solution of HKS AMP?

The HKS Twin Power DLI II as the same side effects has Mazsport Ignition Soltion but it still does not address the real problem.(My opinion is based off of what i have read on the HKS and Mazsport websites no real facts on what i am saying) The OEM coils are the weak leak in the ignition system and the HKS Twin Power DLI II does not fix that problem. So Mazsport's Ignition Soltion gives you the best of both worlds. The Mazsport Ignition Soltion is cheaper and you get coils, spark plug wires, and tech support.

Its also about as cheap as the HKS, but with the stuff that normally breaks upgraded.

its stated that the HKS will work with the Mazsport coils... would there be any benifit to running both .. or just major overkill?

I was not using the HKS unit during the 362rwhp run!

Scott

What is your opinion on using the HKS unit in combination with your upgrade?

the spark is so brite! it blinded my eyes:Eyecrazy:

I just saw this.

Can you add me to the list?

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Razz - you are ALWAYS late to the party - heh

If you were not on the list by Dec 31st it was $525 and since its after Dec 31st the price is now $599