I asked Betsey this question at Mazsport and she said the new coils would work with the HKS twin power. |
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Paid for my set
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Originally Posted by staticlag
(Post 2213335)
loss of power
Lately my engine stops running when I clutch in and coast to a red light. It does not happen often but at least once a day. |
N/A results!
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Hey guys, well we went to the dyno tonight with an n/a RX-8 and did a dyno comparison of the coil packs.
We performed a pull with good stock coils (no white markings on the back and had no hesitation on acceleration etc.) and then unplugged the coils and plugged in our new units and did another run. The improved spark does makes a difference as you can see! We did a couple more pulls (same results) then let the car sit with a fan on it for about ten minutes to eliminate some of the heat soak and it did 191rwhp. The vehicle was running the factory computer with the latest factory flash. I hope this helps answer any questions you have. As always thanks for your interest, Scott |
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
(Post 2213477)
This is with the e-Manage Ultimate?
If so, I've posted the solution for that. |
Thanks MM and CRH, I appreciate that! Scott
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Great job Scott. I've waited on giving you a call back since I can only imagine the number of inquiries you are receiving. Whenever you get a chance in the next week give me a ring.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
(Post 2213626)
Congrats, Scott! Sounds like a real winner!
Fuel that is burning makes more power than fuel that is not! Ugh. Well, the fix works on the Blue, too. I'd get the upgrade kit, though. The blue is poopy by comparison. I got a PM from a guy with the same problem. He seems to think its a low compression issue. |
[QUOTE=turborx8;2213662]I bought the int-x but the guy i bought it from didint send anything else with it. I ordered the int-x hardware kit 3weeks ago from mazsport but they never shipped it yet. :icon_no2:
I am pretty sure we did, I will get the shipping info for you next week the shipping dept. reopens, Scott |
shit shit shit .... Cash ran pretty low after the xmas ....
shit shit shit shit shit shit shit ..... I still have a few days to rob a bank .... :P |
yet another thing to add to the list of "buy after warranty runs out"
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Originally Posted by nycgps
(Post 2213871)
shit shit shit .... Cash ran pretty low after the xmas ....
shit shit shit shit shit shit shit ..... I still have a few days to rob a bank .... :P My plan we hide in the bushes by mazsport wait for the UPS guy to pick up the packages. Follow him to his next stop when he gets out. We run in the truck get our Ignition Ugrade kits and get out. I'll take Mazda Maniacs you can get CRH. We install them then post pics on here of the fruits of our labor. |
Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
(Post 2214152)
Criminal enterprise........I love it! I figure I am going to have a small amount of inventory "shrinkage" when I open Paradox anyway so I might at well get used to feeling "violated". :lol2:
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Originally Posted by chickenwafer
(Post 2214171)
Not if I'm on the job, haha
LMFAO!!! |
No, it means people don't steal stuff when I'm around (if you knew me and current/previous line of work you'd understand)
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John the Man-Beast, LOL
I thought I had a picture of him and me standing side-by-side, but I remembered my comp has crashed since then and I lost it... |
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Originally Posted by chickenwafer
(Post 2214190)
No, it means people don't steal stuff when I'm around (if you knew me and current/previous line of work you'd understand)
lolololol I am assuming you would pass the back ground check with flying colors. |
exactly. I've passed enough Federal background checks
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Hey guys, if you have not already paid for your ignition upgrade please goto our website mazsport.net. In the ignition section you can purchase the Mazsport Ignition Solution. The deadline for the pre-release price is quickly approaching. We appreciate your business,Scott
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Originally Posted by Mazurfer
(Post 2214378)
1. Dave - Chickenwafer
2. Colin - Colin204 (paid) 3. Jason - mysql101 (paid) 4. Phaedon - kersh4w (paid) 5. Dave - drifter_d 6. CRH-free 7. Glen - Seeeya 8. Tommy - tdiddy(paid) 9. Alberto - Slick8 10. MazdaManiac 11. Jack - psychofox 12. Mike -Expo1 (Paid) 13. Dave - Mazurfer(Paid) edit: its crazy how quickly so many people at jumped at something that has real world whp gains. these mods are so few and far between for the rx8. :lol: |
1. Dave - Chickenwafer
2. Colin - Colin204 (paid) 3. Jason - mysql101 (paid) 4. Phaedon - kersh4w 5. Dave - drifter_d 6. CRH-free 7. Glen - Seeeya 8. Tommy - tdiddy(paid) 9. Alberto - Slick8 10. MazdaManiac 11. Jack - psychofox 12. Mike -Expo1 (Paid) 13. Dave - Mazurfer(Paid) 14. Sammy - sammytcl(paid) |
i would be so buyin these... but i just bought new tires and a new rim :banghead:
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I'd do it but a) can't spare the money since I need to save for the Patriots Super Bowl in AZ and b) trying to convince the dealer my existing coils really are going out. Especially with 17k miles left under warranty.
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im still waiting on pictures.......................................... .................................................. .
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Ah something to spend my tax return on...
For the folks who may not realize it the ignition coils have been the limiting factor in making power for the RX8 turbo kits and have been burning out on a regular basis. I have 57K miles on my '04 and am on my second set. Also if you track your car at all you will tend to see random misfires when driving at prolonged high RPM. This is great news!! |
1. Dave - Chickenwafer
2. Colin - Colin204 (paid) 3. Jason - mysql101 (paid) 4. Phaedon - kersh4w 5. Dave - drifter_d (paid) 6. CRH-free 7. Glen - Seeeya 8. Tommy - tdiddy(paid) 9. Alberto - Slick8 10. MazdaManiac 11. Jack - psychofox 12. Mike -Expo1 (Paid) 13. Dave - Mazurfer(Paid) 14. Sammy - sammytcl(paid) |
pictures are essential for people with modified engine bays.
I'd like to know where the new coils sit in relation to the motor. I have a battery relocation on the coil side and my wiring may foul the coils if they are moved or too big. I also cant have the coils sticking out from the engine too far unless they have been lifted. all of which I can work out from a photo of the new coils on a std car without the stock air-box and pipes in place. |
^ thief
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im pretty sure pics arent going to be allowed until after jan. 1, and even then, it might be awhile.
i know i wouldnt post pics until scott said ok. if someone saw the pics and remade the kit, for cheaper, and stole a good chunk of his business. thats intellectual theft! |
Originally Posted by kersh4w
(Post 2214960)
im pretty sure pics arent going to be allowed until after jan. 1, and even then, it might be awhile.
i know i wouldnt post pics until scott said ok. if someone saw the pics and remade the kit, for cheaper, and stole a good chunk of his business. thats intellectual theft! If Scott is worried about someone reverse-engineering his kit, he can take countermeasures (like re-potting the coils and obscuring any tell-tale signs of part numbers and such). However, if someone is able to copy the design and make it out of parts from elsewhere without copying anything that is unique about them, there is no infringement. Plus, selling them for less would probably be a margins game considering the cost on coils, wires and connectors and the machining involved in the bracket. |
i have seen the pack and it is not that much different mounting wise than the oem. What i mean is that the pack can be mounted anywhere you want them as long as the sparkplug wires reach.
oscd |
I just placed my order for them. Put me on the list.:)
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Can someone explain why all the gains on the NA dyno are only in the mid range rpms? I would have suspected the gains would have been much more tilted towards the upper rpms where the stock ignition would be most stretched to its limits?
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Pm sent ! Please add me to the list .
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Originally Posted by r0tor
(Post 2215331)
Can someone explain why all the gains on the NA dyno are only in the mid range rpms? I would have suspected the gains would have been much more tilted towards the upper rpms where the stock ignition would be most stretched to its limits?
The resistance across the gap is highest at the torque peak. |
MM: Would a Ve comparison chart be a good way to post up the difference in performance between proper working OE coils vs. the Mazsport coils? I have the autoenginuity scan tool that can gather and plot Ve charts. I know people would poop all over street "dyno" curves but I was thinking there would be less controversy over Ve plots.
What say you? |
Actually power increased over the majority of the rpm range and improved the peak.
After letting the vehicle sit for ten minutes to reduce heat soak from the previous runs it picked up even more to 191rwhp. |
Originally Posted by MazsportScott
(Post 2215382)
Actually power increased over the majority of the rpm range and improved the peak.
After letting the vehicle sit for ten minutes to reduce heat soak from the previous runs it picked up even more to 191rwhp. |
What happend to the dyno sheet? It showed no gain in the top end only a few in the middle?
Where is the 11whp coming from? |
No ignition pickup = no RPM.
I think Scott was going for illustrative purposes rather than hard numbers with this plot. Can't say I blame him since this is really meant to be a "support" mod rather than a "power" mod in and of itself. |
Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
(Post 2215426)
That's hilarious, Jeff. I posted a response that said, "51 posts ago" but then realized that he didn't ask where the post went/was so I deleted it. I didn't want to spoon-feed DD either way.
My only desires regarding the dyno sheet is that the power scale have higher resolution and that the speed scale be RPMs instead of MPHs. Just trying to get all the consumer facts, $600 is a lot to spend without doing some research. |
all i needed to know was that this mod has more power gains than an exhaust that costs 2x as much. lol.
i'll buy an aftermarket exhaust if i go FI, when it actually makes a difference. |
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the dyno shows stock coils at 180 ... then it shows the Mazsport coils at 185. this is a 5whp gain. Scott said that after they let the car cool down they ran it again and it made 191. (not pictured on the dyno sheet). The difference from the 180HP stock pull and the 191hp Mazsport pull (that is not shown) is where i got the 11 HP gain from.
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Originally Posted by Phish806
(Post 2215561)
the dyno shows stock coils at 180 ... then it shows the Mazsport coils at 185. this is a 5whp gain. Scott said that after they let the car cool down they ran it again and it made 191. (not pictured on the dyno sheet). The difference from the 180HP stock pull and the 191hp Mazsport pull (that is not shown) is where i got the 11 HP gain from.
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
(Post 2215572)
It is.
Where is the 11whp dyno sheet? I only see one that shows a little gain in the midrange. |
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