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Mazfix Racing 07-20-2010 07:51 PM

Mazfix RX8 Turbo Upgrade - Dyno Video
 
We have just uploaded some video footage of the ‘MAZFIX’ Mazda RX8 fitted with our Turbo Upgrade Kit being put through its paces on the Dyno. During this run the car went on to make 209kw at the wheels which equals 281hp at and wheels. This graph was done using 98 octane BP Ultimate Pump Fuel and running 8psi of boost through a stock factory Engine.

http://www.mazfix.com.au/?p=1061

pdxhak 07-20-2010 08:43 PM

209kw = 284hp

Any more details on the kit?

Mazfix Racing 07-20-2010 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by pdxhak (Post 3642197)
209kw = 284hp

Any more details on the kit?

We have been selling this kit in australia for the past 3-4 years. all of the details are up on our website. If we get enough interest we would do up a supply only kit available for export.

TheWulf 07-20-2010 08:52 PM

lol I love this part: (http://www.mazfix.com.au/?page_id=913)

Fuel economy similar to factory, unless using boost.

bumblebeerx8 07-20-2010 09:08 PM

the factoy look when you open the hood is pretty cool

MazdaManiac 07-20-2010 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by pdxhak (Post 3642197)
209kw = 284hp

280.2 HP, actually, which is about 320 or so at the flywheel.
But who is counting...

They are only claiming a "massive" 200kW on the site (268 hp).

Brettus 07-20-2010 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by Mazfix Racing (Post 3642207)
We have been selling this kit in australia for the past 3-4 years. all of the details are up on our website. If we get enough interest we would do up a supply only kit available for export.

get your numbers right first .
Not being able to convert kw to hp (not to mention the grossly exaggerated flywheel hp) is not a good start whether it is just an unfortunate mistake or you actually think you might dupe a few dumbasses .....

Mawnee 07-20-2010 10:39 PM

pffft..its not capable of 900 crank hp.

Flashwing 07-20-2010 10:55 PM

Are you guys an authorized vendor? I didn't see you in the list.

MazdaManiac 07-20-2010 11:42 PM

I particularly like the "upgraded" ignition coils:

http://www.mazfix.com.au/?page_id=913

The "Mazda Factory ECU / Computer Retuning" via the Apexi turbo timer is particularly amazing.

Brettus 07-20-2010 11:48 PM

/\ yeah the coils look like stock Mazda - maybe the newer version ......

laythor 07-20-2010 11:52 PM

no , they seem to retune it in house.. good luck finding any details. Clicking links just takes you on an endless circle

http://www.mazfix.com.au/?page_id=935

Brettus 07-20-2010 11:55 PM

They probably use protuner from Hymee ...

Mazfix Racing 07-21-2010 05:18 PM

sorry there was an error in a conversion, video has been re-edited and is reloading as we speak . . . .

As far as the flywheel horsepower goes, that figure is calculated on our new Dyno Dynamics Chassis Dyno.

MazdaManiac 07-21-2010 05:22 PM

You "calculated" that value on a chassis dyno?
That is quite a calculation.
Did you mean to say you have a Dyno Dynamics Engine Dyno?

If so, what was the condition of the test?
Musta been pretty scary, losing 150 HP at the drivetrain and all...

freaklinkmusic 07-21-2010 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 3642394)
I particularly like the "upgraded" ignition coils:

http://www.mazfix.com.au/?page_id=913

The "Mazda Factory ECU / Computer Retuning" via the Apexi turbo timer is particularly amazing.

foolery at its finest. Stock coils?? lol. they couldve at least got a brand new one.

Red Rex 07-21-2010 05:41 PM

Word of the day: unboltable

As in their turbo kit is completely "unboltable". I love learning new words.

9krpmrx8 07-21-2010 05:52 PM

Fail.

Mawnee 07-21-2010 06:03 PM

Whats is the exchange rate like? Those prices cant be in US dollars.

Mazfix Racing 07-21-2010 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 3642287)
280.2 HP, actually, which is about 320 or so at the flywheel.
But who is counting...

They are only claiming a "massive" 200kW on the site (268 hp).

200kw is what we advertise as a minimum power figure for the upgrade.

Mazfix Racing 07-21-2010 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 3643360)
You "calculated" that value on a chassis dyno?
That is quite a calculation.
Did you mean to say you have a Dyno Dynamics Engine Dyno?

If so, what was the condition of the test?
Musta been pretty scary, losing 150 HP at the drivetrain and all...

there is a function on all new shoot out accredited dyno dynamics chassis dynos that allows you to convert to a approximate flywheel reading.

Mazfix Racing 07-21-2010 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by Mawnee (Post 3643422)
Whats is the exchange rate like? Those prices cant be in US dollars.

all listed prices are in Australian Dollars, current exchange rate is 0.87 US Cents to an Australian Dollar so roughly USD$9135 but bare in mind that is a drive in drive out price, and a supply only price would be much cheaper.

Mazfix Racing 07-21-2010 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by freaklinkmusic (Post 3643381)
foolery at its finest. Stock coils?? lol. they couldve at least got a brand new one.

These are not a stock coil, they are aftermarket upgrades that are a direct replacement for the mazda standard factory units.

Mawnee 07-21-2010 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by Mazfix Racing (Post 3643433)
all listed prices are in Australian Dollars, current exchange rate is 0.87 US Cents to an Australian Dollar so roughly USD$9135 but bare in mind that is a drive in drive out price, and a supply only price would be much cheaper.

Your kit must take ALOT of hours to install :dunno:

Revolver 07-21-2010 08:52 PM

:rolleyes: welcome to the bitchfight Archie. :)

I've met Archie and the boys from Mazfix a number of times. They're decent people who look after their customers and have been consistent supporters of the Aussie RX8 community with part-sponsorship of National track day events and the like. They also walk the walk, regularly tracking their turboed cars and matching them against other modified cars. They're not regular forum contributors because they're too busy working on cars, etc.

I don't have a problem with anyone requiring errors to be corrected/explained, etc (especially when someone is seeking a commercial gain) and I know Archie can look after himself just fine but I find the bitchy and negative comments to be just plain embarrassing. We should all be encouraging additional aftermarket vendors to contribute to this forum - the competition and alternative R&D work they provide is usually of benefit. Keep them honest by all means (and hammer the crooks) but some courtesy and manners wouldn't go astray guys.

Btw, I note that (as edited) Mazfix has restricted his post to factual material and not the hard sell that other vendors sometimes indulge in.

My 2 cents. Flame me all you like because I couldn't give a crap. :)

stinksause 07-21-2010 09:35 PM

pretty cool ... can you post pics of manifold, piping, intercooler, etc? pic of underhood with plastics off ? ;)

MM, Brettus, Flashwing, you guys are rough ... I am curious to see what this kit really is before bashing the numbers they are reporting ... granted, I agree with you

paulmasoner 07-22-2010 02:41 AM

i havent looked at the links or info, nor do i intend to but,


Originally Posted by Revolver (Post 3643618)



Btw, I note that (as edited) Mazfix has restricted his post to factual material and not the hard sell that other vendors sometimes indulge in.

if nothing else, he wouldnt be allowed to anyway. unless he recieved vendor status

Revolver 07-22-2010 02:47 AM


Originally Posted by paulmasoner (Post 3643898)
i havent looked at the links or info, nor do i intend to but,



if nothing else, he wouldnt be allowed to anyway. unless he recieved vendor status

Agreed.

I don't know how au fait he is with forum rules for vendors but no doubt plenty of people in here will tell him.

Brettus 07-22-2010 02:57 AM


Originally Posted by Revolver (Post 3643618)

Btw, I note that (as edited) Mazfix has restricted his post to factual material and not the hard sell that other vendors sometimes indulge in.
:)

They sound like a good company and they should be welcomed with open arms here .
But

Factual information ...... 209kw at the wheels = 450hp (or whatever it was) at the flywheel is so uterly ridiculous it invited the response they got .

paulmasoner 07-22-2010 03:58 AM

copy/paste from one of the other two identical threads


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 3642484)
/\ this is the 3rd thread making the same claim and he has been corrected in each thread .
What is with you Mazfix ?
:banghead:

i wonder how this will be seen by those responsible. reference to status:dunno: 3X's seems a bit much to be just sharing info


Originally Posted by Mazfix Racing (Post 3643335)
As far as the flywheel horsepower goes, that figure is calculated on our new Dyno Dynamics Chassis Dyno.

and 3X's making a fool of yourself. mistakes are no biggie, but after some correction to blindly keep stating that like you believe it is even possible make you look like you really are here just trying to flip a product, and/or that you dont have a clue. that may indeed be what the equipment says, but that doesnt mean you have to ignorantly stand behind it. calibration is wrong, use is wrong, or its just made up.

if the lab equipment told you that your Airsoft or pellet gun was producing muzzle velocities of 750,000,000 feet per second, you gonna be dumb enough to tell potential customers who know better "thats what the machine says" with no explanation or caveat?

god i didnt want to jump in this one, but this is just idiotic.

(i dont want to run these guys off at all, but for them to be seen as anything but a waste of time, untrustworthy, unreliable - this needs to be fixed up)

rx 8speciale 07-22-2010 04:24 AM

HEY good job people that is a good way of of shit on someone thread , some vendors dont have manners ,stupidity. Be happy for a fellow rx8 tuner...damn ....

paulmasoner 07-22-2010 04:33 AM

^^^oh come on man, asshats/dickheads/rude/whatever.. regardless this thread and the other two are borderline ridiculous. and from first impression i dont think most people would call them a "tuner" after some of the things posted

MazdaManiac 07-22-2010 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by paulmasoner (Post 3643928)
^^^oh come on man, asshats/dickheads/rude/whatever.. regardless this thread and the other two are borderline ridiculous. and from first impression i dont think most people would call them a "tuner" after some of the things posted

You are arguing with the German "FluidMotorsports" there, C.

8 Maniac 07-22-2010 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by rx 8speciale (Post 3643925)
HEY good job people that is a good way of of shit on someone thread , some vendors dont have manners ,stupidity. Be happy for a fellow rx8 tuner...damn ....

While I see what you're saying, it's not completely unwarranted either. If someone makes claims we know are impossible, then I would hope that the people who run an enthusiasts performance shop would also catch this. In fact, I would hope they're more precise with their numbers than the average rx-8 club user. I don't know the exact drivetrain loss, but it wouldn't be hard to figure out and I could tell from looking at those numbers that they were incorrect.... by a fair amount.

You have to agree that there has to be a point where someone deserves to be criticized for their claims. What if they claimed 500 hp at the flywheel? 600? 700?

My only issues with these threads is the fact that there's incorrect information that the average 8club member could point out. If you're going to push a product (or just talk about it for the benefit of the community), try harder to make sure your information is all correct. I'm sure they're nice guys and are trying their best to expand the good options for the community, but their posts definitely make them look bad.

paulmasoner 07-22-2010 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 3644058)
You are arguing with the German "FluidMotorsports" there, C.

believe me i know :( even with my non existant presence on the euro forums and slow withdrawal from this one, i still hear about this guy....

stinksause 07-23-2010 01:03 AM

I have 800 flywheel horsepower ... only about 185 at the wheels tho ... :( Do you guys know a good tranny oil to use to lower my loss?

Mazfix Racing 07-23-2010 02:01 AM

i appoligize for the error in my original post. all video's have been edited. It was not my intension to mislead anyone nor am i posting these videos to sell our product. at this stage we only offer our turbo package as a drive in drive out deal and not supply only. I was merely posting this to show all you guys over there in the states what us aussies can do, as it turns out were not very good at posting items on a forum hahahaha.

If i upset anyone i appoligize again, and hope we can now move on.

The reason it has taken me 2 days to get back to editing this is due to our current work load. i made 10mins the other day to edit the video and upload it and have not really had a chance to fix my errors.

Happy Rotoring . . . . .

Brock

paulmasoner 07-23-2010 03:29 AM


Originally Posted by Mazfix Racing (Post 3645227)
i appoligize for the error in my original post. all video's have been edited.

Happy Rotoring . . . . .

Brock

Brock, my opinion isnt worth its weight in salt as i'm preparing to sell the car. But FWIW I dont think anyone would hold it against you for making an error in your post. I think it would be a good thing to get your name out more and see if you could stir enough interest to export something. But by failing to acknowledge your dyno's BHP calculations being obviously and massively wrong just makes you look bad.

I have no doubt that you know better and I understand if your time is precious, but you have to think about the way anything you post can be percieved. In this case, it could be detremental to drumming up export business as it makes it appear you dont really know what you're talking about. It also puts questions in ppls minds about "how good the down under guys" really are, since you specifically make such a reference.

rx 8speciale 07-23-2010 04:32 AM

dude, get a life ,he made a mistake mr perfect, he fixed it , u look like ur qoute under ur name, idiot,


Originally Posted by paulmasoner (Post 3645261)
Brock, my opinion isnt worth its weight in salt as i'm preparing to sell the car. But FWIW I dont think anyone would hold it against you for making an error in your post. I think it would be a good thing to get your name out more and see if you could stir enough interest to export something. But by failing to acknowledge your dyno's BHP calculations being obviously and massively wrong just makes you look bad.

I have no doubt that you know better and I understand if your time is precious, but you have to think about the way anything you post can be percieved. In this case, it could be detremental to drumming up export business as it makes it appear you dont really know what you're talking about. It also puts questions in ppls minds about "how good the down under guys" really are, since you specifically make such a reference.


paulmasoner 07-23-2010 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by rx 8speciale (Post 3645276)
dude, get a life ,he made a mistake mr perfect, he fixed it , u look like ur qoute under ur name, idiot,

are you illiterate? just in case you're not, i'll repeat it just for you.

it was never about any error or mistake in any math or calculation he made.

it was entirely about the fact that he stood up a total of like 5 times across 3 threads to defend the outrageous and incorrect flywheel HP numbers with the statement "As far as the flywheel horsepower goes, that figure is calculated on our new Dyno Dynamics Chassis Dyno"

if you do not understand that, it's no wonder you have the reputation you do, fucking douchebag

rx 8speciale 07-23-2010 10:59 AM

He made all the threads at the same day, he fixed the errors he made on all of them,
give him a break dude , AMF (ADIOS MOTHERFUCKER) IDIOT

Originally Posted by paulmasoner (Post 3645291)
are you illiterate? just in case you're not, i'll repeat it just for you.

it was never about any error or mistake in any math or calculation he made.

it was entirely about the fact that he stood up a total of like 5 times across 3 threads to defend the outrageous and incorrect flywheel HP numbers with the statement "As far as the flywheel horsepower goes, that figure is calculated on our new Dyno Dynamics Chassis Dyno"

if you do not understand that, it's no wonder you have the reputation you do, fucking douchebag


paulmasoner 07-23-2010 11:04 AM

you really are thick headed arent you. still arguing about something that isnt even the point. not the brightest crayon in the box

rx 8speciale 07-23-2010 11:18 AM

IM gonna tell u something , ready , i was talking about that too...


Originally Posted by paulmasoner (Post 3645522)
you really are thick headed arent you. still arguing about something that isnt even the point. not the brightest crayon in the box


paulmasoner 07-23-2010 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by rx 8speciale (Post 3645546)
IM gonna tell u something , ready , i was talking about that too...

if you were, then your dumber than even I thought...

i dont give a flying fuck if it is fixed now or not. the important thought that i wanted the OP to take away was to THINK about something before they post something that is total nonsense(and then repeatedly stand behind it until the error is made blatently obvious). otherwise they may be looked upon as idiots who cant understand simple principles... kinda like you and this conversation

paulmasoner 07-23-2010 12:22 PM

Jesus H. Christ... this is the kind of shit that is gonna ruin the forum... some out of nowhere punk coming in to join the fight and save the day. Never catching on that its not about a mistake in numbers, its about being mindful of what you post, because ppl will judge you based on that. And the community could use more options/vendors. But he has to be viewed well for that to happen. What i said initially was nothing complicated and i am positive it wasnt "news" to the OP. I was simply pointing out a simple idea, and like so often happens some caped crusader who doesnt even understand the posts apparently has to turn it into a debate.

Fulk salt, what a imbicile

Brettus 07-23-2010 03:14 PM

Mazfix - this will only take you a few minutes .
copy your first (corrected ) post
Delete all three threads you started
Start a new thread and paste

I promise you we will welcome you with open arms and all the negative stuff will stop

8 Maniac 07-23-2010 03:40 PM

rx8speciale has managed to thread crap this thread more than all of the flamers combined! Congratulations on missing the point and continuing an argument that wasn't actually taking place anymore!

I'll try to put this as simple as possible, as it seems that paul's method of writing might be complex for some people:

-original problem was the quoted power numbers.
-numbers were defended, then corrected and all was good
-it was pointed out that, while the numbers were fixed, it's still good to be sure your posts come across how you want them. In this instance, people could have drawn conclusions about the quality of their business as a result of the mistakes, regardless of whether or not they were corrected

As a legitimate and good company, mazfix should be perfectly fine with defending themselves. They'll still get respect, we were just making a point to make sure they have everything sorted out before posting information, as to avoid looking unprofessional. I think everyone in this thread has reached an understanding, with the exception being rx8speciale.

paulmasoner 07-23-2010 04:38 PM

thank you 8 maniac, you said it much better than i did, even though i tried multiple approaches

and +1 to what Brettus said. the forum can use another vendor, technical resource, or whatever capacity you would like to fill.

stinksause 07-23-2010 06:57 PM

so ... are we granting mazfix entrance via trial by fire?

just sayin'

Mawnee 07-23-2010 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by stinksause (Post 3646193)
so ... are we granting mazfix entrance via trial by fire?

just sayin'

Pretty much. They made the mistake of trying to BS the wrong people.

You know, like the guy that walks into the car meet and says his civic with fart can and stickers runs 10s. Sure his wasnt quite that extreme, but BS is BS. ESPECIALLY when you are selling something.


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