loube

my car has about 18,000 miles on it so everything should be broken in. We dynoed it and drum roll please :-) the best of two runs was 240.00 whp now is anyone getting a CEL that goes like this:

ECU #=10
MIL is ON
Vehicle Reports 1 Stored Trouble Code(s)
TC1 -P0171
P0171 System too Lean (Bank 1)
Pending Code 1 -P0001--P0001 Fuel Volume Regulator Control Circuit/Open
Pending Code 2 -P7100--Trouble code definition not found

loube

BTW i had the CEL before the turbo was ever installed. It seemed to happen after i flooded the car.

adrian-1

The CEL was already there? So it's probably not a problem with the turbo. Why didn't you take it in when the CEL popped up? I doubt the dealership will look at it now.

zoom44

oh for cryin out loud....you might want to get those hoses you mentioned before hooked back up...

brillo

can you post the dyno sheet?

MazdaManiac

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Loube - SLOW DOWN A SECOND!!

Those hoses to the intake are EXTREMELY important. One of them is under vacuum and needs to be metered and filtered. You WILL damage your engine if it is not hooked up.

This is the cause of the hesitation and the "Fuel Volume Regulator Control Circuit/Open" code.

If you had a CEL going into the install, you should have resolved the issue first.

Also, the entire power-off issue in the middle of your datalog is the TCS/DSC. Turn it off on test runs.

Tony Orlando

I think you guys may be talking to a brick wall here......

loube

no brickwall just not at my pc. I don't know how to hook up the hoses because i don't have a shop manual. The dealer well they refused to look at any "driveability issues" because i had modified the motor by installing a intake and exhaust. I have ordered a shop manual for the 8 but have yet to receive it. the CEL appeared after it went to the dealer for the Flooding so again the dealer has some blame but will take none. I refuse to return there as they have f'ed up on other issues including a TSB for brake squeal. the changed the pads with no shims and they did not turn the rotors. i will be going to a different dealership tommorrow and see if they can help me find where those vacuum fittings go. does anyone have a shop manual or a picture of that side of the motor. the vacuuum ports are low in the intake.

zoom44

doesnt the greddy kit instructions tell you where to reconnect them?

loube

Ok so the two vacuum fittings on the side of the intake are suppose to be capped off. We did not take them off when we were installing the turbo, so we think either the dealership removed them when the motor flooded or they were never there. Car runs great still seems rich. Oh yeah fuel mileage is 12.7MPG, well see this tankful

MazdaManiac

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No!

Do NOT "cap them off" under any circunstances.

The air jet input needs air (your motor will struggle or die with is capped) and the metering oil pump won't pump without air.

In short, you WILL destroy the motor.

ttt

why did you not take before

zoom44

question- who will be the first to blow their turbo'd 8?
answer- loube

slavearm

Yah, but you can't ever idiot proof anything... because a better idiot will always come along. Does loube get an award or something? Maybe I will photochop him a new avatar.

MazdaManiac

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Well, lets not be too hard on him.

There seems to be a lot of people that feel free to second guess Mazda, or any other OEM for that matter.
It never ceases to amaze me how many people will simply remove a critical component from the engine or engine management system without understanding what it does, only to be left wondering why their "mod" didn't improve performance.

Over the years on the MX-3 mailing list, there has been a constant stream of people who have arbitrarily removed their airflow meter (thinking it would "improve flow") and then posted a question to the effect of "why won't my car run?".

There exists a far greater number of people with desire than those with proficiency.

Broke_Apex_Seal

Man you guys are real critical. He is here for help on his car. Instead of acting like cornholes help him out and keep your bullshit to your selfs.


Not a sermon just a thought

-Broke

Charles R. Hill

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I think the two capped fittings Loube is referring to are the ones that are on the intake manifold and facing the passenger side of the car in a horizontal fashion. I looked at them and they are, indeed, capped from the factory. I might place some hose clamps on them when I do my turbo install just to make sure they don't mimic the problems from the FD. Thanks for the discussion on this one as you guys may have saved me from a headache or two down the road.

CRH

MazdaManiac

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We are discussing the two hoses that go into the intake pipe and he had NOT attached to the K&N that was previously installed.

MarWar80

Back to the Original Topic On the "Lean condition on Full Throtte" I also have been having the same problem. I have been working back an forth with My mechanic and tech support from Greddy!! We came to the conclusion that the Emanage is what's at fault. It seems their may be an error witht communication of the Emanage and the ECU.

Basically what's giong to be done is that I am going to purchase the Emanage software so that we can communicate with it. Greddy is going to Email me the base mapping so that we can re upload it into the Emanage. The Tech says this should solve the problem. If it doesn't then my mech is going to have to retune the Emanage.

If you do not wish to purchase the Software, Greddy said we could send the Emanage to them so that they can re upload the data for you. However that would probably take longer because of the shipping back and forth. Not only that, but you may run into problems again so I'm just purchasing the software from a local performance shop so that it can be tuned as often as it needs to be.

The software is going to cost around $90 - $120. But that's a marginal cost in comparison to the Kit itself. Greddy said they will not send the software for free, but they are willing to email you the base maps! I don't think we have another choice. I hope this helps.

loube

I would like to thank charles for understanding the question and aswering it. I already got my answer on Saturday from a Mazda Technician at another Dealership. Some of you should re-read the title of my post i was looking for HELP not criticism. And also i stated that the two ports that Charles just mentioned were found that way by the shop that was installing the turbo kit. We followed the directions from greddy to a "T" So i guess maybe i could be wrong but i won't be the first to blow up my car. Thank you Charles

ninedeep

I guess if Loube's is an idiot then so am I and a few other people cause we are all in this one together. :D

We have the same problems and we are working with Greddy too. Atleast Greddy has good customer support so far.

Everything will work out in the end. I have faith! :D

Happy troubleshooting!!

Ryan

loube

I will take the blame for not stating that those two ports are on the side of the intake manifold. I am still puzzled that i received the car like that from the dealership after i flooded the car. Capping them off has also cured my CEL it has not come back since i did that. sorry if i did not explain everything well but i was in a bit of a hurry.


:o

zoom44

my apologies

Fanman

I ran into the same problem today. We were driving it around a bit to make sure the hoses & clamps fit properly. There was a slight hesitation right before boost hit. We thought it might be a rich spot. We brought it over to the dyno today and at 4000-4500 rpm they the car started detonating. Real bummer, my mechanic is calling Greddy to see what the issue is. The green upload light keeps blinking like it is connected to a computer all the time.

RX-8fan01

So everyone that has the turbo kit seems to have the same detonation problem ...... well i just order my kit and im wondering is it a seriuse problem and also does every kit have that problem ..... just wondering i really dont understand the whole concept that why i am not installing the kit myself ...