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hoss -05 01-22-2011 11:42 AM

Hoss -05's build thread
 
Hoss -05's build thread.

This is the build thread for my 2005 RX-8.

My car is a 2005 with a little over 60k (Raul). I am on my Third engine all mazda remans. The current engine has less then 10k miles however a new one is being built. I premix with every tank. 9krpmrx8 has been a big part build and I would not have had the motivation to go forward with out him. I would also like to thank Grungepup and Cornholio for there help and knowledge.

Below you will find in a very unorganized fashion the parts going into the build. Most of the factory sensors and ancillary engine components like the starter, ac pump and alternator are being replaced with new denso units.

Suspension/Brakes:

Carbotech XP8 pads
Rotorpros slotted rear disks
DBA 5000 two piece front rotors
Autopower front and rear break lines
Motol RBF 600
Forgestar F14 rims 18x10 +42
Nitto NT05 265 35 R18
Project kicks two peace openface lugs 27mm
Project Kicks 10mm hubcentric spacers f/r
Hotchkins Front and rear anti roll bars
Whiteline sway bar end links F/R
Stance GR+ Coil overs
Custom 10k front and 8k rear springs

Custom built dampener and spring set up by Fat Cat Motor Sports.

Supporting engine power and longevity mods:


Second Factory fresh none Mazda rebuilt 10k engine
BDC built bridge and street ported with lots of cryo and WPC treated parts... also NRS one piece ceramic apex seals and viton o-rings
Hymee Supercharger Kit?????
Modified turblown low mount kit
Manifold and downpipe coatings
Iconal turbo heat shield
Tial V-band turbo housing
BHR coils
Sakebomb coils
BHR fuel pump
BHR catless mid pipe with second o2 bung
Racing Beat oil lines
Mazmart Oil pressure mod
Mazmart Upgraded water pump
Mazmart Thermostat
Ron Paul Radiator
Samco six piece hose kit, red Black
Scott mazsport, oil pan
ExoticSpeed titan II 3" extra silent with black chrome tips
Racing beat twin tip Exhaust
Racing beat 3" non resonated mid pipe
NPG+ water-less coolant.
Cast aluminum upper intake manifold
Ported lower intake manifold
Divorced turbo coolant system

Drive train mods

09 trans with less then 10k
OEM new engine mounts
Full custom right side engine mount
Carbonetic carbon Clutch/ flywheel kit, ACZ23142-13
Carbonetic carbon 2 way LSD
S2 R3 diff cover
Beatrush center transmission brace
Beatrush Rear Dif brace
Stainless clutch line

Tuning and interior

PLX 60mm multi display guage
PLX Oil pressure and tempture guages
PLX Wide band O2 sensor
PLX Data logging software and cable

Apexi AVC-R
Innovate wideband and boost gauge
GoodBox
Cobb AP
Adaptronic ECU
Sparco Torino R505 seats, passenger and driver side
Sparco RX8 specific mounting hardware

R3 Seats

Body

Authentic Mazda speed, front, sides, spoiler and super rare JDM spoiler extension
Racing beat rear flares (did not like the MS rear)
All lips on MS stuff are paint matched to the color of the rims
Full 09 R3 body swap

The car also now has its own dedicated netbook for the Cobb AP and PLX software.
Looking for a new solution

I would love to hear any input comments or suggestions.

phrenetiK 01-22-2011 12:42 PM

widebody rmagic kit.

hoss -05 01-22-2011 12:57 PM


widebody rmagic kit.
Meah... body kits are not really my thing. I tried to order a Carbon fiber chargespeed lip kit twice but the vendor was acting all sorts of shady so I pulled out of that transaction.

9krpmrx8 01-22-2011 02:34 PM

Nitto 265/35 -18 :)

Brettus 01-22-2011 02:42 PM

Great start . Look forward to seeing your progress .

NgoRX8 01-22-2011 03:27 PM

Very Nice!

8 Maniac 01-22-2011 05:07 PM

Thin tires :p:

hoss -05 01-22-2011 09:17 PM


Thin tires
Ha Ha yeah just saw that. Fixed now.

Thanks guys... i am very excited for this build as well. I want to really do things the right way.

On another note I would also like to thank Grungepup. He has helped me a ton as well. I really could not have even start this build if it were not for Him and 9k.

9krpmrx8 01-22-2011 09:20 PM

Too bad I wasn't here this AM when the FedEx guy came :( Now I have to wait until Tuesday to see the coilovers and sways :) I will be doing some work on Raul tomorrow though, I'll keep you posted.

nycgps 01-22-2011 11:07 PM

Stance have good stuff. but if you're really after "performance" you should go for "at least" KW's Variant 3

Anyway ... most important ...

PICTURES ! or it didn't happen ! :lol:

9krpmrx8 01-22-2011 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 3857266)
Stance have good stuff. but if you're really after "performance" you should go for "at least" KW's Variant 3

Anyway ... most important ...

PICTURES ! or it didn't happen ! :lol:

Stance will be fine until this is a dedicated track car :) I also think he went with different spring rates, right Hoss? Pics soon :)

hoss -05 01-23-2011 01:22 AM

Nope stock stance spring rates for now. Ill bump up the spring rates if need be later. I am fairly sure I will be happy with the suspension for awhile. At this moment I do not need separately adjustable rebound and compression. Just more set up time that way and I really want to get Raul focused as quick as I can.

hoss -05 01-23-2011 01:26 AM

So a question. I really think I should get my injectors serviced but do I need more flow? I Thought about doing the KG parts mod and service but am wondering if it would be to much flow.

Kane 01-23-2011 01:40 AM

They can clean and flow match them, without making them drastically larger.

hoss -05 01-23-2011 08:31 AM

Before body work, The front bumper and door needed some work.

https://www.rx8club.com/picture.php?...ictureid=22443

During the body work.

https://www.rx8club.com/picture.php?...ictureid=23561

https://www.rx8club.com/picture.php?...ictureid=23562

BHR goodies!

https://www.rx8club.com/picture.php?...ictureid=23564

https://www.rx8club.com/picture.php?...ictureid=23565

quicksilver34 01-23-2011 11:35 AM

nice build good luck in future..

9krpmrx8 01-23-2011 01:51 PM

Okay, so I went to change the tranny fluid to Redline MT-90 and found this :( Looks like someone has been in there before. The gasket was trashed but nothing a little Loctite RTV didn't fix :) Raul shifts very smooth now :)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9krpmrx8/5382012886/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9krpmrx8/5381408951/

8 Maniac 01-24-2011 12:31 AM

Was there any noticeable issues with shifting as a result of the gasket? Wonder how that happened... even if someone was working on it before, I cant see how they would make a mistake like that without realizing it.

9krpmrx8 01-24-2011 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by 8 Maniac (Post 3858106)
Was there any noticeable issues with shifting as a result of the gasket? Wonder how that happened... even if someone was working on it before, I cant see how they would make a mistake like that without realizing it.


Yes there was a noticeable difference, I actually changed it because going from my car to his car, I noticed the shifting was weird and making some noises. I am pretty sure it was from changing the fluid and not from fixing the gasket though. His old fluid actually looked pretty clean for 64,000 miles but the shifter was a little noisy and clunky. We will be doing the clutch soon as well.

hoss -05 01-24-2011 10:55 AM

I never really felt my shifter had a problem. It always had sounded a little different then most of the other 8s I have driven or rode in. I can not really say it had a different feel in the shift action though.

I ordered my wide band o2 and data logging cable last night. I would like to pick up the Re-Medy thermostat and water pump. Any of the the FI guys still running with the stock radiator or think I would have need to change it out?

9krpmrx8 01-24-2011 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by hoss -05 (Post 3858383)
I never really felt my shifter had a problem. It always had sounded a little different then most of the other 8s I have driven or rode in. I can not really say it had a different feel in the shift action though.

I ordered my wide band o2 and data logging cable last night. I would like to pick up the Re-Medy thermostat and water pump. Any of the the FI guys still running with the stock radiator or think I would have need to change it out?

Yeah not so much the "feel" per say but whining noise and clunking sound definitely. With the new motor mounts and clutch I think all related vibration and noise will be not existent. The car is driving just fine BTW. It is at the bodyshop now getting some minor blemishes fixed that grungepup and I found. Updates to follow.

next up after the body shop is wheel, tires, rotors, pads, SS brake lines, and Motul Brake fluid :)

hoss -05 01-24-2011 11:32 AM

Yeah he really needs new motor mounts.

The Clutch, sways, end links, coilovers O2 and data logging cable should all be shipped in this week as well...

The two things im most excited to see, The rims finally go on and pics of this crazy clutch set up.

Glad to hear he is back in the shop 9k. Is it still just those two issues?

Things are going good with tubing champ and I am sure we will get the SC unit shipped very soon!

mscamp02 01-24-2011 11:35 AM

cool build and congrats on that hymee kit, hope it all works out for you.

Brettus 01-24-2011 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by hoss -05 (Post 3858383)
Any of the the FI guys still running with the stock radiator or think I would have need to change it out?

most run the stock rad. which is fine for street use . If you start giving it a serious hard time you will need to do something extra thaough . A 2nd auxillary radiator seems to be the cheapest/most effective option .


BTW - are you planning to run the AP or the Hymee PT ?

hoss -05 01-24-2011 11:46 AM


BTW - are you planning to run the AP or the Hymee PT ?
I will be running the Cob AP. We are still working on getting a Dyno Day near us but if that dose not pan out I will be picking up my AP very soon.

cornholio135 01-24-2011 12:24 PM

Went thru another's thread about this supercharger. Seems the Factory Strut Bar will not fit with this on. I believe the Strut Bar I have stands taller than the factory and I bought them as a set (front/rear) for $109 off ebay. I know some people say the front strut bar is not necessary but I personally would not run without it... just sayin...

https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...5&d=1278375687

http://i572.photobucket.com/albums/s...newmods001.jpg

ebay link...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/04-09...Q5fAccessories

9krpmrx8 01-24-2011 01:37 PM

Well maybe we can take yours off for a test fit :)

9krpmrx8 01-24-2011 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by hoss -05 (Post 3858451)

Glad to hear he is back in the shop 9k. Is it still just those two issues?


Yeah just the two spots on the door. They are going to knock it out.

cornholio135 01-24-2011 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 3858596)
Well maybe we can take yours off for a test fit :)

works for me...

hoss -05 01-24-2011 11:23 PM

Looks Good Cornholio! I have also seen twin braces that go to the firewall from the stock strut mounting location. I dont remember if i have seen one for the 8 or not though.

My suspension should be in in the morning~!

9krpmrx8 01-24-2011 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by hoss -05 (Post 3859253)
Looks Good Cornholio! I have also seen twin braces that go to the firewall from the stock strut mounting location. I dont remember if i have seen one for the 8 or not though.

My suspension should be in in the morning~!


You mean like my bar? or like what Missy has?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9krpmrx8/5045069509/http://www.flickr.com/photos/9krpmrx8/5045069509/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/9krpmrx8/, on Flickr

hoss -05 01-25-2011 12:02 PM

Not sure on the bar.... Ill post it when I come across it.

Anyway I added a Cob and GoodBox to my parts list. My goal is to only have one "gauge".

cornholio135 01-25-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hoss -05 (Post 3859253)
Looks Good Cornholio! I have also seen twin braces that go to the firewall from the stock strut mounting location. I dont remember if i have seen one for the 8 or not though.

My suspension should be in in the morning~!

Missy has the Corksport 4 point... not sure if it will clear the SC though...

Attachment 249114

or maybe you are thinking of the GT Spec 6 point

http://gtspec.com/sites/default/files/rx8-fsb-1.jpg

hoss -05 01-25-2011 12:44 PM

Yeah that may have been it Mike. Not sure..... that thing looks nice! I wont have to worry about it getting in the way as my oil filter will be under my car soon :)

Rote8 01-25-2011 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by hoss -05 (Post 3856793)
Hoss -05's build thread.

I am currently working things out with Tubingchamp on picking up his Hymee super charger. Everything is going Great so far :)

~

What size or model blower is used by the Hymee kit?
(I have heard it was a bigger blower, it could be the Autorotor equivalent of the Lysholm MX-420 or MX-422.)

9krpmrx8 01-25-2011 10:33 PM

Soooooooo....... Look what we got delivered today :)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9krpmrx8/5389517712/http://www.flickr.com/photos/9krpmrx8/5388911663/http://www.flickr.com/photos/9krpmrx8/5389516636/

hoss -05 01-26-2011 02:37 AM

WOW That looks Great 9k. Could you get a pic of the clutch disk... I have allways wondered what it looked like. Ha I can see all the boxes in the background. Sorry guys lol.


What size or model blower is used by the Hymee kit?
(I have heard it was a bigger blower, it could be the Autorotor equivalent of the Lysholm MX-420 or MX-422.)
Not sure what unit it is off the top of my head. I knew at one time... Anyway it is 2.1L.

9krpmrx8 01-26-2011 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by hoss -05 (Post 3860717)
WOW That looks Great 9k. Could you get a pic of the clutch disk... I have allways wondered what it looked like. Ha I can see all the boxes in the background. Sorry guys lol.



Not sure what unit it is off the top of my head. I knew at one time... Anyway it is 2.1L.

The clutch actually came mounted to the flywheel. I would have to disassemble. BTW, I saw the perfect tranny jack at harbor freight (hint hint) :lol:

http://www.harborfreight.com/450-lb-...ack-39178.html

Edited because I am retarded.

tubingchamp 01-26-2011 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by hoss -05 (Post 3860717)

Not sure what unit it is off the top of my head. I knew at one time... Anyway it is 2.1L.

Sprintex S1-490 :ylsuper:

NgoRX8 01-26-2011 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 3860842)
The clutch actually came mounted to the flywheel. I would have to disassemble. Do you think they installed it on the flywheel to spec? BTW, I saw the perfect tranny jack at harbor freight (hint hint) :lol:

http://www.harborfreight.com/450-lb-...ack-39178.html

that is a good looking clutch and flywheel.
you will need to disassemble to mount it regardless because the flywheel gets bolted to the engine.

9krpmrx8 01-26-2011 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by NgoRX8 (Post 3860989)
that is a good looking clutch and flywheel.
you will need to disassemble to mount it regardless because the flywheel gets bolted to the engine.


:lol: Duh. I haven't had my tacos this morning so I am a bit loopy.

9krpmrx8 01-26-2011 10:37 PM

Okay, got the wheels mounted :) 18 x 10 +45 Forgestars with 265/35-18 Nitto NT-05's

Before:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9krpmrx8/5075941054/
After:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9krpmrx8/5391641669/http://www.flickr.com/photos/9krpmrx8/5391641263/http://www.flickr.com/photos/9krpmrx8/5392240988/

A bit portly though.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9krpmrx8/5391642215/

mscamp02 01-26-2011 11:30 PM

cutting no corners. this looks like one hell of a build in a short time

9krpmrx8 01-26-2011 11:47 PM

SARX baby :) That's how we roll. Next build thread will be mine :)

hoss -05 01-27-2011 12:33 AM

You are correct on one thing mscamp02. I will not be cutting any corners.

It looks like a quick build time but it really is not. I have been working toward an FI goal for many many months now but laying low. I was largely undecided about My FI of choice and even tried to make an appointment to see Corky Bell about doing a turbo kit for me. Then Tubingchamp's SC came up for sale and I could not pass on a chance to own that bad boy.

There are many more months to go before everything is ready and we are really going to take our time with the test and tune portion. EVERYTHING will be data logged, documented and done the right way.

I am still very undecided on what I am going to do with the exhaust, engine coolant solutions and maybe some trick coatings by Swain.


A bit portly though.
:O its only two more pounds then your set up and not bad for a 10" rim with 265s. Your build thread will be Epic 9k.

9krpmrx8 01-27-2011 12:37 AM


Originally Posted by hoss -05 (Post 3861886)
:O its only two more pounds then your set up and not bad for a 10" rim with 265s. Your build thread will be Epic 9k.

Yeah, not bad at all :) I just had to steal some of your thunder :lol:

8 Maniac 01-27-2011 02:46 AM

Definitely not heavy for the tire/wheel sizes. Will there be any fitment issues or will you be able to avoid rubbing with that offset?

hoss -05 01-27-2011 04:16 AM

There should be Zero fitment issues. +42 is not aggressive. (was told by the Rishi that its actually = +38 to the stock size... something about the width. I did not really get it) I am also using 265's and they are just a little bit of a streach on a 10" rim.

I am also not going to go very low. My goal is about a half inch lower then it has been with the progressive springs. I also dont want more then -2.5* camber in the rear if I can at all help it.

THmotorsports.com 01-27-2011 02:21 PM

Beautyfull....I remember the days when my parts were ready to be installed...I was all giddy with joy!!!


Enjoy the goodies sir!!!


:beer05: soon


-Adam

9krpmrx8 01-27-2011 03:17 PM

I'm giddy about installing them and they are not even for my car :lol:


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