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Rote8 11-21-2008 07:48 PM

Heads up to boosted Snow Performance injection users:
 
The Snow plastic nozzle holders will burst under boost pressure.
I just lost my boost side Snow nozzle holder to pressure.

13bturbofc 11-21-2008 08:02 PM

wow that sucks..im not familiar with the nozzle holders you speak of tho. it should be a 90 degree metal elbow not plastic wtf?

dannobre 11-21-2008 08:02 PM

Why would they use a plastic part there....wouldn't be my first choice in a kit :(

MazdaManiac 11-21-2008 08:20 PM

What part are you talking about, exactly?
The interface between the liquid tube and the metal nozzle?
That doesn't really see any pressure if you have the tube seated correctly.

13bturbofc 11-21-2008 08:27 PM

it sounds like hes talking about the 90 degree elbow that holds the injector and attaches to the hose. but i cant belive that snow would make such a shitty part. possibly its the little plastic peice or "quick release" clip on the elbow. but i cant see how that could blow out..

chickenwafer 11-21-2008 08:55 PM

That elbow shouldn't see any boost.

It's a plastic 90-degree elbow that accepts the quick-connect high pressure hose and then the metal nozzle screw into the elbow on the other side.
It should see no boost when you're spaying.

Besides, the pump puts out over 175psi (up to 225psi) which is MUCH more than any turbo car would see in the manifold.

I think you either have a faulty install or bad apple.

MazdaManiac 11-21-2008 09:35 PM

Not to mention that the boost would have to find its way back through the tiny nozzle!

13bturbofc 11-21-2008 09:48 PM

still though a plastic elbow?? that's kinda shitty...

MazdaManiac 11-21-2008 10:03 PM

Well, all of the commercial water/meth kits use a plastic piece as a terminator.
But its not shitty on the AEM or Devil's Own.
I suspect its not shitty on the Snow, either, but I don't have one in hand at the moment.
It is likely that the original poster has a combination of issues that have led to his predicament.

13bturbofc 11-21-2008 10:15 PM

what do you mean by terminator? cause the only plastic peice on my cooling mist nozzles are the tiny plastic quick release clips ... the elbow is all metal

MazdaManiac 11-21-2008 10:53 PM

I forgot about the Cooling Mist.
Yeah, they use a metal "elbow" on their "Stage II" and above kits.
Now that I think about it, so is my AEM. (its not an elbow, though - its straight.)

Now I'm not sure about the Snow kits contents.

OP - pics or it didn't happen!

Race Roots 11-21-2008 10:56 PM

Damn that sucks...And that is why I am putting in an AEM Kit on my car...

chickenwafer 11-21-2008 11:00 PM

so far I have no mechanical issues with my Snow kit. It even included the tap for the nozzle!

The only issue is the controller not kicking in at the PSI level I set it at. I set it for 4psi and it wasn't swtiching on until nearly 8! So I kicked it down to 1 on the controller and now it turns on at 3.5psi.

13bturbofc 11-21-2008 11:02 PM

yeah im surprised they would use a plastic nozzle holder...a metal elbow is such a cheap piece..i bet they could probably get them for the same price as plastic...its like identical to a plumbing piece except i think its nickel plated.

chickenwafer 11-21-2008 11:43 PM

i don't see what the big deal is- the hose is plastic and it works just fine. Up to 300psi.

13bturbofc 11-21-2008 11:54 PM

but it gets threaded into the intake tube..im not sure if there the same design as the metal cooling mist ones but i wouldnt want plastic if they are the same design

MazdaManiac 11-22-2008 12:44 AM

No, the nozzle part is metal.
The coupler is plastic. It just keeps the hose attached to the nozzle.
All of the water pressure is passed directly from the hose to the nozzle.
Conversely, all of the boost pressure gets applied back against the metal nozzle.

Rote8 11-22-2008 04:58 AM

There is a plastic 90 degree elbow, the hose and all the fittings inside the 90 degree piece blew out.
:rant:

Yeah, I can't believe it either, I am thinking of another brand of injection now, if I would not have seen it, or if I had been running straight methanol, or nitro :Saiyan:

Wow, compare that to "The Devil's Own" nozzle holder.

Derex'8 11-22-2008 08:34 AM

Plastic 90 degree elbow wtf? :uhh: , just purchased my unit and have it sitting @ the house, will check and confirm that plastic 90 degree elbow again, but last I checked there was no plastic and the whole piece was metal. Only thing plastic was of course the container and bulk heads :squint:

Derex'8 11-22-2008 08:36 AM

As a matter of fact there is a quick release type connection on the metal elbow (push on outer ring to release) for the nozzle .... No plastic here...

olddragger 11-22-2008 09:07 AM

contact snow they have a free upgrade for people who have had problems with this nozzle holder. It is all metal. they told me that they had a bad bunch of holders and they then redesigned.
olddragger

Rote8 11-22-2008 09:56 AM

New nozzles
 

Originally Posted by olddragger (Post 2738116)
contact snow they have a free upgrade for people who have had problems with this nozzle holder. It is all metal. they told me that they had a bad bunch of holders and they then redesigned.
olddragger

I have already ordered new nozzles, holders and check valves from The Devil's Own.
The nice thing about DO is the nozzle size is stamped into the side of the nozzle.:)

13bturbofc 11-22-2008 10:44 AM

damn man, even tho it is cheap plastic and id want metal ones, there is still no reason it should have broken like that..id be trying to figure out what caused that to break...how old are they?

Derex'8 11-22-2008 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rote8 (Post 2738026)
Wow, compare that to "The Devil's Own" nozzle holder.

Fixed

Here's a better comparison of the snow nozzle holder...

and as you can see there's even a quick release type connection for the hose..quality stuff here

chickenwafer 11-22-2008 01:34 PM

It still shouldn't break. The bulkheads on the pump are plastic. So is the hose.

If Snow is giving them out as upgrades I'll get a freebie but otherwise plastic is no big deal


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