It has the same parts in every other $3500 Greddy kit. If they price it any higher for the exact same physical hardware, they are gouging.

 

Id still say who ever thinks 5k is to much is kidding them selves... Show me any turbo kit on the market for any newer model that's less then 5k... You cant period..

 

greddy makes plenty of bolt on turbo kits for less than 5k...in fact the only one more is the TWIN TURBO kit

 

Ok ok so I was wrong *wink*... so there are a few, but for the newest models they are up there in price... but for the 8 where eveything on this car is way over priced Id think they do the same.

I used to drive a SVT Focus and there turbo kit was 5800 and not installed and for another 750 for Installation w/Dyno Tuning.. So when I heard about the low price on the 8. I was like WTF how can the focus turbo be so much...? http://www.focus-power.com/view.php?showme=SVT_Kit Thing makes nice numbers..

 

Maniac, thats cool, thanks for the info. Now all that is left for me is the numbers. SHOW ME THE NUMBERS!!!!!! Man I wish it was Feb.

 

why cant there be any dyno results anywhere

 

Sent my email !

Now, anybody want to by a slightly used kidney?

 

i dont understand the no plans for the auto yet. i thought it was easier to mod the automatic than it was to mod the 6-speed because of the two less air ports on the auto.

 

It's simple. Trust/Greddy doesn't even have an auto kit in JDM. Only a test mule built together with RE Amemiya. The auto normally makes how much hp? Do you think the torque converter will be able to handle 300whp? The whole thing has nothing to do with 4-port vs 6-port engine and more to do with what people are buying, reliablility and where Trust/Greddy thinks they'll make more money.

 

That's just funny. I mean like... WOW.

 

That's nice and comprehensive. Thanks!

 

isn't the re amemiya kit coming out soon anyways?

 

Count me in also another email sent

 

Well when you figure that $5100 is the MSRP, 40% of that is profit for the greddy dealers so $3060, plus some profit for the distributors. Considering how much R&D greddy has to do to make the kit and it includes engine management, and an intercooler $5100 isn't such a bad price (considering some of the TURBO ONLY kits for RX7s, no intercooler, no ecu, only a manifold, turbo, and some lines) can run upwards of that much its not a bad price. A lot of the other kits from greddy are only turbos, manifolds, and oil lines.

 

Your absolutely right, that price isn't so bad at all. I've spoke with shops that will do custom jobs on cars and charge almost 10k for the conversion. I'll be happy as a pig in S*** if it stays under 7k with all of the items listed in this thread.

 

Frankly... I don't care if it IS a good deal or not. Because there are other options. And Greddy knows this too. First off the parts of the kit and pricing was already developed for JDM. From there some adjustments will likely be made, but I seriously doubt that the kit would go from something like 400,000 JPY to $6,000 USD. I am with the Japanese enthuiasts... not worth my time if the price would exceed $5k, and I may still not give a look at that price considering I have to pay for installation after that. A price tag of $3k or $4k would be the price that makes me say... gotta have it.

Don't forget... what can you do with $7k?? You can buy a faster car stock to begin with. G35c, BMW 3 series, Legacy GT (and mods!), '05 Mustang GT (and lots of mods!), 350Z, S2000... and the list keeps going.

 

i was told by the greddy rep at the sema booth that they are looking for a +60hp gain. that's 300bhp(if even that) guys, sorry. 300 at the wheels is a bit much not only for a conservative bolt on production kit from a big name like greddy, but too much for only 7psi. also, they are making a harness for the e-manage that will be available seperately (no splicing).

interestingly however, when I asked about the power output they said they needed to tune some more. i really think that really means the tuning hardware doesnt work, yet. according to the rep, they haven't had any problems with the hardware and they just needed time to tune the map. I just can't see how a company like that wouldn't be able to tune the car within a few days given the assets they have. when I explained my canzoomer setup, he seemed a little taken by how much I really knew about the emanage and how it works with the rx8. he responded by saying they havent had any problems, including the PCM overiding the changes. unless there's something about the way the harness connects that is the secret to worry free ignition control, there's no reason they aren't in the same bucket as the rest of us....

If they do get it to work, it will be a hell of a kit - very comprehensive. At ~$4500 even only 60hp is worth it, especially when you factor in the gains from other mods and more aggressive tuning. As much as I want to say it will work, I honestly don't think we'll see this kit on the shelves.

 

Consdiering that this kit isn't mentioned on the Japan Trust/Greddy site and the last time i checked the rotary mags it wasn't being mentioned as being released yet.... even though it was first mentioned QUITE awhile ago. It seems that they just can't seem to get it together... if so... dump the e-manage for God's sake and use something else!

BTW... in Japan the kit was suposedly only going to offer 50-60hp for $4,500. Hearing this talk of 300whp and alll surprised me, because as epitrochoid said above... in Japan as well, they are only going for 7psi.

 

Adrian

PM me when you plan to visit, I could probably get us a sneak peak when they are doing the final tuning for it on the dyno.

Colin

 

So, someone should invite Greddy to chime in here and give us details. I am seriously thinking a supercharger is better for my 8, but if Greddy gets this right and offers this choice, my choice will be a hard one: TC or SC?

 

Man what the hell is going on?
I mean one guy went to SEMA and said he talked to the Greddy boothand they tell him 300 at the wheels and it will be out in Jan-Feb 05, and pricing around $5100.00.

While another guy went to the SEMA show and said he talked to the Greddy booth and they tell him 300 at the crank, not even sure if the kit will ever come out and supprised at the knowledge of of the individual on the E-manage, and pricing around $4600.00.

I guess I am just a little confused!!!!!

Oh well, just produce the damn kit and let us see for ourselves what the damn numbers and pricing are.

PS- please, that is.

 

The simple answer for this is: They installed the last piece of the kit on MY CAR 1 DAY before it had to get on a truck for setup at SEMA! Time is the only reason they haven't tuned it or have specific information on output... not b/c the hardware doesn't work, and not b/c they're lazy or don't have the assets.

I know it's easy to jump to conclusions and the enthusiasm is contagious (believe me, I know!), esp. on this board, but all this conjecture is hearsay so please (and you'll flame me for this) be patient! They will get to tuning it and have more concrete numbers/answers once things settle down after SEMA. While their employees run at high efficiency, inundating them with e-mails and questions may be detrimental at this point in the game, translating to less time working on the car and more time on the computer. Besides, the ones who have the answers first are not the guys who answer the phones, so please give them a break!

 

I'm not jumpin in to say that their kit sucks and will never run. In just stating my stance on things. I know the emanage fairly well, but I'm not on greddy's payroll. The pro's are working hard at it, and they have a million times better chance of figuring it out than I do. Another point I didn't mention earlier, is that Greddy probably wouldn't fund the R&D for such a kit without knowing for sure their hardware would be able to handle the tuning.

But to clarify what I was told, word for word.

12/04 or 1/05 release date
+60whp (meaning sub 300 crank HP, probably right at 300 with exhuast and midpipe)
$4000-$5000USD
Uses Emanage
Includes everything you'd need to get running

btw shawrf1, greddy did an incredible job with your car. the fit and finish of all the parts (greddy and otherwise) way surpassed the other 8's on the floor there, especially extreme dimensions, whose CF pieces didn't even fit properly. if you happen to know who painted your kit, let me know. I might just have to rip your setup off :D

PLEASE KEEP US UP TO DATE!! I don't want to bother greddy with emails, they know that I'm a potential buyer.

 

Nobody said that you were saying their kit sucks. But I definately got the impression that you were saying the kit would probably not run.

Anyways, it doesn't really matter.

I was just trying to figure out why two different people talked to the same Greddy booth at SEMA and both were told different information.

Hey Shawrf1, thanks for the info, and definately keep us UPDATED!!!!

Respectfully,
Punishr

 

No, im not being defensive. I'd just hate for in 6 months greddy to say "well we were going to release a bolt on kit for 450hp for $1500, but epitrochoid told everyone it sucked so we didn't"

trust me, i am very excited about this kit. It'd be great to have 300whp, but if you do the math it doesnt add up...in a perfect system 1 bar will double the power (everything else constant, double the air, double the fuel), so .5 bar or ~7psi would be 50% more or 270whp (based on 180whp ), about 320 or so at the crank. Knock 20 off that because physics really only works in a dream world, and we have about 300bhp. A great generalization, but you get the idea.

but does the kit run more tha 7psi? Maybe...I didn't even think to ask! So who knows...

a few pics too at http://web.tampabay.rr.com/dv/

#78-81 are of the greddy kit, but there's alot of other pics in there, and a few of yours truly with some fine ladies :D