ScudRunner

bern,

tried to email you, but your address keeps getting kicked back to me. Can you PM me with the details?

bern

Sorry guys... the RN.COM e-mail has a heavy SPAM filter... just hit me at my regular e-mail adee:

brhslm@earthlink.net

for those that have thanks... I'll get back to you ASAP.


ScudRunner, send me an e-mail.


Cheers,

-Bern

davefzr

Is there any chance for those of us in so cali to check out the kit to help sway us?

Namely.. myself.. I live in Diamond Bar...

ATL-6s

Sweeeeeet!!

Charles R. Hill

iTrader: (7)

So I went to my friendly neighborhood GReddy authorized tuner to talk about the designing and dyno-tuning of some custom E-Manage maps to work in a particular fashion with my nitrous setup, and guess what I left the shop with? A verbal meeting of the minds to sell me the GReddy turbo kit at his cost with me installing all of the parts myself and getting the base map set working. Then, we will dyno and road tune a decent 6 lb. boost level. After that the nitrous goes back on the car for another 55 h.p. just for fun. This is not a "sponsorship" deal, just an opportunity for me to get a great price on some cool stuff and we both get to play with turbo and nitrous boosts. This will commence somewhere around the third week of January and the kit will include all of the stuff that MazdaManiac mentioned in his previous post. Is it my lucky year, or what?

Charles

Fanman

Awesome Charles, let us know how this works out. Details would be appreciated. I am still contemplating this vs. the Blitz SC (when/if) it comes out, or the SFR/SSR unit.

MazdaManiac

iTrader: (3)

I guess we can swap E-Manage maps now!

army_rx8

dang Charles you lucky lucky guy....now all i have to do is kill you and steal your identity muahahahahaha.....well maybe not it sounded good in my mind:p

Japan8

man... some people have all the luck. Sounds sweet... DEFINITELY post pics, etc. as your project takes shape Charles...

Charles R. Hill

iTrader: (7)

Army, you don't want to steal my identity because there always comes the bad with the good!

I do tend to wonder how the E-Man will deal/does deal with the matter of open-loop vs. closed-loop operation of the factory ECU. How does all that work, M.M.? I'll still pursue the header idea for those not interested in a turbo set up even though my idea won't work well on a turbo install.

One thing I tend to like about the GReddy kit when compared to some of the ones we have seen, so far, is the placement of the turbo. I like it out of the way and less visible.

Of course, I'll keep all of you apprised of my experiences and results because I have a very hard time keeping my mouth shut. Now if we can get 400 h.p. or more........

Thanks for the kind words and support, everybody. Next stop, the Ultimate Street Car Challenge, 2005.

Charles

Lock & Load

Charles

You are a charming rascal getting a turbo kit at wholesale and agreeing to tune the e-manage maps for them.

Love to get a copy of a properly tuned e-manage map for my car here in Australia .

cheers
michael

army_rx8

hehe can't wait for you to get it all working great Charles...helps out the rest of us

oh and if they have anymore turbo kits laying around...make sure they disappear for yours truly...hint hint, wink wink:D

mysql101

The CZ map that comes with a CZ unit is already properly tuned, the problem is, each car is different. So a perfectly tuned map for my car isn't going to work for yours. You can check the CZ map thread in the canzoomer forum if you want to download some maps we're sharing.

army_rx8

http://www.mazdatrix.com/8turbo.htm

dunno if anyone has seen this yet but mazdatrix has the greddy kit for sale...sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. price is $3,790.00. (am i allowed to post that...oh well to late)

punishr

Thanks for the info Army rx8, I do check their site every once in a while, but I had not seen that they had it for sell yet.

Snoochie

"As far as we know, this WILL void your factory drivetrain warranty"

I dunno maybe the dealership won't notice

army_rx8

yea i haven't looked at their site in a loooong time...but it was just updated on the 31st of dec...i think the last update they had was like july of 03. but i must say i like this update:D


lol i won't tell the dealership i have a turbo if you won't

punishr

LOL,......You gotta deal!!!!!!

Charles R. Hill

iTrader: (7)

In the interest of full disclosure, let me clarify something: My possible involvement in the GReddy turbo kit project is on a local level only and is not any meaningful map development on my part. The shop I would be working with is quite experienced in that area and are very well-connected with GReddy. My role would mostly be to offer up the first vehicle in the Detroit area for experimentation at the street level, as opposed to a controlled-environment with smart engineers doing the work. Additionally, if an idiot like myself is able to install the product at home with hand tools, the kit may work well for others, too.

One thing that bothers me is that the included intercooler seems a bit small for anything higher than 5-6 psi, especially when it is noted that it is a two-row design. Not much future potential, there. If that is the case, then for a $3,500 street price one would be much better off going with nitrous to get a 50+ h.p./torque boost at a much lower cost of around $650. That's why I originally chose nitrous. To do both turbo and nitrous would be nice(and maybe even noteworthy), but then I am on my way to a 100 h.p. nitrous shot anyway and that is achieveable with an E-Man and another pair of nozzle jets. On the other hand, I do like the hardware design and with so few parts the install would have to be a cinch for the truly ambitious among us.

If direct comparisons can be made then it can be said that a 5-6 psi boost along with the standard upgrades(cat removal and cat-back, pulleys, flywheel, etc.) will result in e.t.'s in the high 12's. Another 6 psi will place one in the high 11 second potential with good tires. If Greddy is getting 303 h.p. at the fly with this kit, then I have 25-30 h.p. hiding out in a set of drag radials. I guess the distinction boils down to the notion that a turbo is better for road/club racing and nitrous is better for straight-line/drag racing. I would point out that I think an RX-8 running mid 13's in N/A form has plenty of power for autocrossing/club racing.

This is why I am still hesitant to fully commit to such a project. That, and the Mazdatrix price makes that local offer seem not-so-splendid anymore. I was offered the package at only a few hundred less than what Mazdatrix are asking.

Charles

Army, thanks for the heads-up. That info/link changes the landscape a bit for me.

ScudRunner

The most interesting thing about all of this is that the kit still doesn't show up on GReddy's website. Anyway, if only I hadn't just contracted to have my trunk fiberglassed in to make a kick *** stereo setup, I'd be all over this thing. Alas, it will have to wait until October or so.

army_rx8

no problem gald i could help. :D hehe and i would love to have a 13 sec car in n/a form. but alas i don't have nitrous oxid hehe but i am living vicariously through you...so i guess i do have nitrous oxid :p

Charles R. Hill

iTrader: (7)

With the stuff I have bolted on I am already running steady 13.7's on the stock wheels/tires and they have 30K miles on them. We don't need nitrous to get 13's. !2's are another chapter in the on-going saga.

I followed the link provided by Army and was looking at the exhaust manifold. Is it just me, or does GReddy block off/omit the factory air pump passages?

Charles

adrian-1

So, I'm guessing the BOV , turbo timer, and catchcan are all extra accessories. But what about the modified oil pan they made? I don't see that in the kit.

ScudRunner

I was wondering about the oil pan myself. Also, I read originally that a Type RS BOV was part of the kit, but I don't see one. That's OK though, because if and when I get this I'll probably get an HKS SSQ BOV anyhow (prepping for more boost down the road).

army_rx8

my friend has the hks ssq bov and it sounds pretty funny...if he isn't at full boost and he lets off the accelerator it makes a hissing laugh sound like mutly from hanna barbara. lol.....who am i kidding...that sounds great too:D