Esmeril Turbo vs Petit S/C
09-30-2010, 02:48 PM
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On paper its by far the best system, but you will have to ask around to some owners;
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-aftermarket-performance-modifications-23/nrs-ceramic-apex-seals-1-piece-oem-height-200561/
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-specific-performance-mods-97/my-new-install-project-176409/
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-aftermarket-performance-modifications-23/nrs-ceramic-apex-seals-1-piece-oem-height-200561/
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-specific-performance-mods-97/my-new-install-project-176409/
09-30-2010, 03:46 PM
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http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/...4248684?ref=ts
Looks like another in the works, I have seen more people around here with their setup, just can't find the links.
One big plus is its setup for an AP.
Looks like another in the works, I have seen more people around here with their setup, just can't find the links.
One big plus is its setup for an AP.
09-30-2010, 05:25 PM
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09-30-2010, 06:08 PM
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What are the engine bay temps like with this kit? Doesn't having the airbox undertray removed decrease radiator performance?
Fungster I have the GReddy kit and I live like 2 hrs from you. I havent started the car yet as I am missing the IC outlet elbow from my kit (BHR is handling the matter epically) but everything is installed and I can tell you that if you have any experience working on a vehicle you should be able to handle the install no problem. Took me about 5 days to install everything.
09-30-2010, 06:45 PM
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Original Turbo 'd Auto !!
I don't see why it shouldn't be stable. It's really the tune that makes or breaks the system.
Paper is nice, but in my case it looks better in my engine bay.
Brett, The build of the Turbo system is finished and has been for close to 2 months now.
The issue why I don't drive it is with the drilled out siphon assembly recommended by a member of our FI'd 8 community. Shame on me for taking his premature advice.
Of course you knew this, so quit giving wrong information about my build.
Don't know that just yet about the engine bay temps. I have wrapped nothing yet. So I'll do time without wrap and time with DP, then up pipe, and finally the header.
The removal of the OEM airbox tray frees up quite a bit of air flow path restriction. So on my prior install Greddy kit it did help in bring the coolant temps back down quicker.
On paper its by far the best system, but you will have to ask around to some owners;
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=200561
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=176409
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=200561
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=176409
Brett, The build of the Turbo system is finished and has been for close to 2 months now.
The issue why I don't drive it is with the drilled out siphon assembly recommended by a member of our FI'd 8 community. Shame on me for taking his premature advice.
Of course you knew this, so quit giving wrong information about my build.
The removal of the OEM airbox tray frees up quite a bit of air flow path restriction. So on my prior install Greddy kit it did help in bring the coolant temps back down quicker.
09-30-2010, 06:46 PM
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RotaryMachine - You live in Saskatoon, correct? We should meet up sometime, I would like to take a look at your setup.
I have never installed a turbo system before, and initially the Greddy was my selection, as long as I can get 300+rwhp out of it without going as high as 16psi.
I have never installed a turbo system before, and initially the Greddy was my selection, as long as I can get 300+rwhp out of it without going as high as 16psi.
09-30-2010, 07:25 PM
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^ You wont hit 300whp on the GReddy.... you'll need an upgrade for that and at the moment I'm still waiting for a proven upgrade to come back onto the market (MM's GT3071R) or something new to show up. I'm aiming to get up around 260 and then possibly around 280 with some more mods and a BC.
Once I finally get the car started I will still need to data log and wait for some tunes from MM, so I'm hoping it isnt parked for too much longer as I don't winter drive it and time is limited... and all this warm weather without the car is killing me haha
Once I finally get the car started I will still need to data log and wait for some tunes from MM, so I'm hoping it isnt parked for too much longer as I don't winter drive it and time is limited... and all this warm weather without the car is killing me haha
09-30-2010, 09:32 PM
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Since nobody has brought this up yet, I'm just going to add that turblowns kits, sfr, and the esmeril kit, which is the one I am actually in favor of, are all big pretty shiny top mount turbo kits. The greddy, on the other hand, is a smaller snail buried deep in the abyss of your engine. But thats the ONLY thing keeping me from considering the greddy.
Im looking for a show car, which involves a turbo people can actually see, but also something I could dd. I do know though that with the right knowledge, the greddy kit is more than capable. There is more than enough evidence of that on this site, it's up to the person tuning the kit.
If you are willing to put the time in to tune your turbo, go for it. If you just want power, a supercharger might be an easier alternative for you.
PS- now that the AP is gone, what ecu are people using these days?
Im looking for a show car, which involves a turbo people can actually see, but also something I could dd. I do know though that with the right knowledge, the greddy kit is more than capable. There is more than enough evidence of that on this site, it's up to the person tuning the kit.
If you are willing to put the time in to tune your turbo, go for it. If you just want power, a supercharger might be an easier alternative for you.
PS- now that the AP is gone, what ecu are people using these days?
09-30-2010, 10:47 PM
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10-01-2010, 01:03 AM
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everyone has their own opinions on things, choose what you like best, just do the research. I personally like Twin screw petite S/C. free spining, its powerband is more linear, provides air to intake manifold oppose exhaust manifold. There are downsides too but for my purposes S/C would be good for me.
10-01-2010, 08:14 AM
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I have been expecting this thread to degrade into the flaming abyss between the Supercharger peeps and the Turbo peeps. Surprisingly it has not yet fallen.
What ever good you can say about either way to go FI has detractors. The OP has already stated that he does not like the sound of the S/C so why even bother considering it - he would never be happy.
I chose the s/c because of my past experiences with both forms of FI. Oh ya I do happen to like the sound also.
What ever good you can say about either way to go FI has detractors. The OP has already stated that he does not like the sound of the S/C so why even bother considering it - he would never be happy.
I chose the s/c because of my past experiences with both forms of FI. Oh ya I do happen to like the sound also.
10-01-2010, 12:26 PM
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Brett, The build of the Turbo system is finished and has been for close to 2 months now.
The issue why I don't drive it is with the drilled out siphon assembly recommended by a member of our FI'd 8 community. Shame on me for taking his premature advice.
Of course you knew this, so quit giving wrong information about my build.
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The issue why I don't drive it is with the drilled out siphon assembly recommended by a member of our FI'd 8 community. Shame on me for taking his premature advice.
Of course you knew this, so quit giving wrong information about my build.
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To me finished means you are tuned and running with no issues but I guess it is harsh to imply that has anything to do with the kit - sorry man .