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ChrisRX8PR 08-27-2008 10:24 PM

Esmeril Dyno - Out of the box.
 
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In lieu of recent happenings and the fact that we had promised a baseline dyno a long time ago we realized that we owed it to our current/future customers to do a baseline dyno and that the fact that we were very busy developing new products and manufacturing existing ones was no excuse for not having this. We made it a point to setup some dyno time with a local shop so we could give you some proof of what the kit is capable of instead of wasting time talking about the issue.

Here is the result:

366whp/265wtq

Here are the conditions for the run and below find the dyno graph:

- Completely out of the box kit with atmospheric dump.
- 13 psi.
- Esmeril Racing Ignition Upgrade Kit.
- ABS/DSC fuse pulled (all other methods failed).
- Between 40-50% humidity and 80deg.
- 91 Octane pump fuel with no additives.

Some clarifications before questions arise:

The dyno we used (the newest/nearest one to our location) was nearly brand new, just installed a few weeks ago and the dyno cell/enclosure hasn’t been finished. No extractor was set up for the exhaust gases and the rear door was unopened due to the opening mechanism not being in place yet. All these variables caused the air inside the Dyno cell to be saturated with low oxygen air(it was a cave with the exhaust facing towards the inside wall) evident by the fact that on the street the car runs at 11.5AFR with this exact setup/map/etc. and when in the dyno it dropped to 10.0-10.2AFR across the board, further dropping to a super low 9.4AFR in the 5200rpm region which was a little detrimental to the tq/hp curve (it would have been at peak from this point on but it suffered a dip in this region). Should our dyno have been well ventilated and the humidity lower (it was storming outside) we expect more can be coaxed from the set-up as it sits.

This current number, however, is more than we anticipated on this A/R turbo housing (our original promise was of 340whp at 13psi and you can see that at 8000rpm the A/R starts limiting peak power a little bit). We feel very confident that with a fully operating dyno (with some kind of airflow going through it ) the results would be even more favorable.

As a further commitment to the community we have set another date where we will go with the car to the dyno again when it is fully operational and do a full blasted run taking the Esmeril Turbo Kit to the max as it comes out of the box. We are expecting this to be within a month’s time and this time we will do whatever it takes to accomplish this.

A video of the run and a new video of the car on the street will follow soon as well.

Thanks,

Chris

StealthTL 08-27-2008 10:34 PM

Holy Crap!111!!

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TopGear8 08-27-2008 10:37 PM

It's nice to finally see some numbers. Well done.

05rex8 08-27-2008 10:38 PM

^what he said

very nice guys

chancejat 08-27-2008 10:45 PM

looks like theres a very smooth power delivery very supercharger like.....hmmmm...

ChrisRX8PR 08-27-2008 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by chancejat (Post 2615857)
looks like theres a very smooth power delivery very supercharger like.....hmmmm...

It is smooth unde the boost curve and above it but the transition causes the tires to break loose in third from a roll when under 70deg and low humidity. Makes for a very fun ride :)

Chris

nycgps 08-27-2008 10:57 PM

NICE ~~~~~

Another option to consider ... NICE ! :)

Razz1 08-27-2008 11:15 PM

Zoom zoom!

Brettus 08-27-2008 11:27 PM

holy horsepower Batman

Good job

Easy_E1 08-27-2008 11:32 PM

Very nice numbers!

kersh4w 08-27-2008 11:42 PM

nice.

thats 2 kits that are +350whp.

put all the haters to rest. the renny is new, all it takes is time and we will see 400whp. it just takes money.

Nemesis8 08-27-2008 11:42 PM

Would be nice to see the x-axis as RPM

ChrisRX8PR 08-27-2008 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by Nemesis8 (Post 2615948)
Would be nice to see the x-axis as RPM

I actually have one of the runs with RPM in the X axis. Just not an original dyno file, its printed on paper. I will need to scan it and post it tomorrow morning until I can get a hold of the actual dyno file.

Thanks,

Chris

Nemesis8 08-27-2008 11:54 PM

Good work Chris, this will be an intersting car to pull up next to on the highway I bet. :)

Your getting close to race specs it seems... Compare your setup to the D962R Turbo which uses a Garrett G35 Turbo, Tial 44mm external wastegate, intercooler, and larger primary injectors. Their Renesis engine produces 435 bhp, and 235 lb-ft of torque at only 9 psi of boost.

ChrisRX8PR 08-28-2008 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by Nemesis8 (Post 2615964)
Good work Chris, this will be an intersting car to pull up next to on the highway I bet. :)

Your getting close to race specs it seems... Compare your setup to the D962R Turbo which uses a Garrett G35 Turbo, Tial 44mm external wastegate, intercooler, and larger primary injectors. Their Renesis engine produces 435 bhp, and 235 lb-ft of torque at only 9 psi of boost.

I've had a few encounters....mostly are followed by the "radio adjustment syndrome" where the driver of the loosing car acts like nothing happened and adjusts his radio while trying to look in that direction so he doesn't have to look at me :). Very peculiar....

The D962R revs the crap out of the engine that is why it produces soo much power with so little torque.....very impressive indeed!

Thanks,

Chris

alz0rz 08-28-2008 12:18 AM

Hot.

morkusyambo 08-28-2008 12:49 AM

Sweet.

tajabaho1 08-28-2008 12:56 AM

sweet jesus mother of god @.@

MazdaManiac 08-28-2008 12:58 AM

Excellent.
I'll add it to the dyno comparo.
This is the kit with the pre-tuned Int-X?

Jedi54 08-28-2008 01:00 AM

holy crap! Nicely done guys!

ChrisRX8PR 08-28-2008 01:05 AM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 2616033)
Excellent.
I'll add it to the dyno comparo.
This is the kit with the pre-tuned Int-X?

This is the kit with the Int-X. It has the base map but it was tuned because the base map is meant to be extremely rich at boosts levels above 10psi for safety reasons with customer installs in case of an issue with a wrongfully installed wastegate or something of the sort. Some tuning is required to get to this but it is with what comes in the kit and nothing more.

Thanks,

Chris

MazdaManiac 08-28-2008 01:53 AM

I'm also curious why you have such problems with the DSC/TCS.
I've never had any kind of interference from those systems, even at power levels substantially above this.

ChrisRX8PR 08-28-2008 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 2616068)
I'm also curious why you have such problems with the DSC/TCS.
I've never had any kind of interference from those systems, even at power levels substantially above this.

I don't know if its the same with every car. I have even seen cars with my own eyes that dyno well just pushing the button for 10sec. For some reason mine is not one of them. My system will flash the ABS light and the car will slow down after 6500rpm like I let off the gas if I just push the button for 10sec and do the run in 4th. If I do it in 3rd it doesn't do anything but the numbers are not as realistic because its suck a high ratio. It might have something to do with the 100mph mark as this is where the issues start happening. Either way pulling the fuse with the car in the off position took care of the problem for the entire dyno session.

Also, I would really like to see a chart of an RX-8 at higher than 366whp with a renesis if you have one available. It sounds awesome and might inspire some faith from the people in the forum :)

Thanks,

Chris

ChrisRX8PR 08-28-2008 09:36 AM

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Dyno update!

Here is one of the runs with the RPM in the X axis. This was scanned so excuse the quality ;). We will update with a digital copy soon.

MM, Thanks for updating the dyno comparison thread.

It seems as if something is a little off though. On the TQ graph our curve is at all times above the mazsport kit yet on the WHP graph it never surpasses the mazsport graph(weird because we made 4whp more) and from 6000-7600 it even appears as though the mazsport was higher than ours when in that range our tq is higher which makes that impossible since higher tq at the same RPM = more hp. Our max tq should also be edited, it was 265+ not 262 as it says in the block next to the graphs.

Also, please edit our name to read Esmeril instead of Esmiril.

Thanks a million.

Chris

maxxdamigz 08-28-2008 09:44 AM

Question: do you have a plot of boost vs. RPM? I see that your torque peak occurs after 7000 rpms (by my guess). Also, do you know what the SAE value was that was used? I wish my torque curve was that smoothe.


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