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Old 01-05-2006, 05:29 PM
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She Blowed

I am not sure on the rotary engine what happened but the case is damaged. The replacement motor is new not remanufactured - over $4000 plus install and calibration of the computer. It also included installing boost and another gauge. The cost is actually quoted at $5600 but I have never had anything come in at cost. Several of his friends initally installed the turbo kit and he drove it 2 days (or actually a day and a half) without having it tuned. They will be getting the old engine back (40,000 Miles)
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^ I second the statement on variability. There is no way to build a single map that's good for even most 8's.

umm, yes there is; it's called "flash tuning" the factory PCM
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^^ We see how great that worked out for Mazda over the last 6 flashes and the variability from one car to another.

At least it will be more predictable...
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umm, yes there is; it's called "flash tuning" the factory PCM

ummm, not the same thing at all. The factory PCM adjusts fuel delivery via fuel trims. The maps we are talking about do not.
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only because everyone isn't on the same flash tune
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only because everyone isn't on the same flash tune
When "K" was out, people had all different kinds of behaviors on completely stock cars.
"R" was even worse.
"M" was as close to uniform as we've seen and it still has a lot of variation from car to car even though the ones and zeros are all the same.
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only because everyone isn't on the same flash tune

What the heck are you talking about? You seem to be saying that the maps that the emanage and interceptor use don't adapt to car-to-car variation because they aren't on the same stock flash.... I seriously hope that is not what you are saying.
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i thought the interceptor-x was intercepting and replacing the signal rather than manipulating it (like the greddy emanage). if this is the case... why does it matter which flash you are on?
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Because the factory PCM will still try to "correct" the A/F ratios any way it can until it gives up and throws a CEL which results in all kinds of nastyness.
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It may throw a CEL with the Interceptor but that's all it can do. The factory ecu can't change anything else that would result in any nastyness.
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The Interceptor controlls the DBW throttle also? How 'S-DAIS?
DBW gets limited to 80% and S-DAIS get shut down.
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well maybe I misunderstood, I don't claim to be an authority, my comments are intended more toward inquisitive debate than to be taken as fact, hence the
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My car went in limp mode a while ago, due to a blow EGI fuse, and the RPM's were limited to 3k. So the factory ecu still has control over something related to the engine. Probably DBW. I think the Interceptor does control Sdias though.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
The Interceptor controlls the DBW throttle also? How 'S-DAIS?
DBW gets limited to 80% and S-DAIS get shut down.
Mazsport has never had any issues with this. Ask them. I've never had any issues with the Megasquirt with a CEL causing other issues. You just have a CEL. That's it.
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Originally Posted by BigOLundh
i thought the interceptor-x was intercepting and replacing the signal rather than manipulating it (like the greddy emanage). if this is the case... why does it matter which flash you are on?
You are exactly right. Any dealer flashes that affect the factory fuel/ignition maps will not affect the way your Interceptor-X equipped vehicle will run. Once it's tuned it's tuned, Scott
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