claude4

I thought I saw this somewhere on the forum but am not sure:

http://www.electricsupercharger.com/

Are there any opinions on this as a power bossitng solution?

I have been told that one can install and remove it rather easily and therefore be able to remove it when going in for warranty service.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Claude H.

Psylence

They absolutely do not work at all in any way shape or form.

rabinabo

The funniest are the ebay auctions selling "turbos" that are in reality a bilge pump (usually several times the original price). At least this one seems to be fairly powerful though, and they don't make totally outrageous claims.

SpreeGuy

the e-ram is an actual, working electric supercharger.

I know (not personally) a guy that had one installed on his car (ford contour) and he had a dyno proven 10 hp increase.

now, the ebay rip-off "turbos" are far from beneficial.

Reeko

Theoretically this could work fine. There is no real difference between a mechanically driven SC and and Electrically driven one. As long as the pump can generate enough boost AND volume.
(Not claiming that this one DOES work).

Psylence

Go ahead and blow your money on the dumbass things then. You can research the specs on the motor. You can see the blades,a nd you can do the calculations to prove how much more air this "thing" is gonna put into your engine.

I remember some people on I-club trying this on a 99 Impreza a couple years ago. It produced no extra power, and was more of a bottleneck in the intake. The purchaser briefly toyed with the idea of using a highpowerd brushless electric motor before realizing the futility of it all.

But seriously, go ahead and buy one. Just please tell us all about it when you do. :p I can always use a laugh here @ work!

claude4

The reason I asked is a mechanic friend of mine, whose opinion I respect, brought this particular product to my attention. Having installed several kits, on several diferent make/model cars, he finds he has several happy clients as a result.

I appreciate the feedback and look on for more.

Thanks,

Claude H.

bureau13

The placebo effect is a wonderful thing!

jds

seikx8

That eRam doesn't look much different from this: home made kit

if you want to have fun first hand, that's how you do it :D A good realistic electric supercharger might give you a short burst of boost with the expense of battery drained and probably will cost much more than a real supercharger/turbo.

An honest and knowledgable mechanic would tell you it would take energy to produce horses; you cannot just pull a rabit out of hat :p

MazdaManiac

iTrader: (3)

No, THIS is the turbo system you want to go with:
Turboboyee Mega Hyper Turbo System

Reeko

Again,
Not saying this works, but even a normal SC uses engine energy to produce its boost. Basically you are adding HP and using a portion of the added HP to drive the SC, otherwise it would be a net loss.

I think I read that the electric motor only turns on a WOT through some type of throttle switch. So, it only uses juice (battery) on hard acceleration.

The added energy comes from the addition air and fuel consumed to produce the extra HP. A portion of that energy can be used to drive a mechanical SC, or to produce electricity in the alternator that can drive an electric SC.

I do agree that this motor/pump probably does not produce enough volume and boost to be worthwhile.

Psylence

If people will buy the E-ram... do you think there's a market for long straws that go from cockpit to intake? I mean, those McD's straws are gigantic so I'll bet they can handle some pressure

SuperRex

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
hillarious...


the saddest part is that there are 10+ bids

Need For Speed

hahahaha i want that mega hiper turbo system.
its to cool.:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

neit_jnf

18+ now and $250 !!

seikx8

What can I say, if you can't beat them, join them! :D LOL

Need For Speed

:D :D :D :D :D

Brian Goodwin

Dyno tested the E-ram on a Miata years ago. We put it on while on the dyno, took it, put it on, took it off, put it on, took it off....and everytime it was on we made LESS HP. In short, does NOT work.

Brian Goodwin
Good-Win Racing

Efini 8

HAHAHA ... try the tornado im sure you will get a HUGE increase LOL!

claude4

Thanks for the feedback.

Seems like a pass on that one.

I'll wait to see what canzoomer comes out with.

Claude H.

SpreeGuy

I realize i'm a minority by claiming that the e-ram has noted benifits. But like all car mods, it will depend on the vehicle as to weither it will be benifical or not.

Obviously if the car is allready flowing 600 cfm, and the e-ram pushes 500 cfm there will be no benifit.

Regardless of previous arguments here is a dyno graph of a 99 contour owners car with a 9 hp increase with the e-ram.

bureau13

There are a lot of ways to make a dyno graph show what you want without resorting to drawing your own. Without knowing where this came from and how it was obtained, it doesn't mean much.

jds

SpreeGuy

If i had more info i'd post it... unfortunatly i don't

at least the dyno has more weight than some guy claiming... "hey guy, WOOT!!!, i got 30 hp at the wheels with my new carbon fibre steering wheel"..."woot"

If you need more info, you'll have to contact the owner of the car
his e-mail is: bnmotorsports@msn.com

Omicron

A while back we were discussing electric superchargers.

No, I don't plan on buying one, and find the claims dubious at best. But I also found it interesting from a theoretical point of view, so I asked some questions of one of the vendors who sounded like they might be selling something other than a leaf blower grafted onto an intake. Their website is http://www.boosthead.com/ . Following is what they've said, for everyone's interest only.

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----- Original Message -----

Hi there -

I have a few questions about the ESC-400 Electric Supercharger.

First off, do you have a kit for the new Mazda RX-8, or if you are developing one? Secondly, I get the impression from your website that there is a cockpit actuator for the SC, correct? Third, is the boost variable, and if so, where is the control? Fourth, why can you ony run this SC for 15 seconds? Finally, what would a typical price range be?

I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks!

----- Response -----
From: tkturbo@bellsouth.net
10/20/2003 09:43 PM

The RX8 will draw too much air. The ESC uses a pressure relief valve to control boost. The operator is responsible for keeping runs to 15-20 seconds, but the batteries will also limit the duration as the unit draws 18,000 watts. The ESC-400 will be sold as the main unit only, and accessories can be supplied or sourced by yourself. I will be wholesaling to the public for $2495.


----- Follow up Message -----
To: tkturbo@bellsouth.net
10/22/2003 11:48 AM

Thanks for the reply. So you're telling me that this unit draws 1500 Amperes? (based on Ohm's law, with a 12V system, that's the Amps would be required for 18000 Watts output). What kind of battery are you using? A typical 12V car battery puts out around 750 Amps, so does this system use two 12V car batteries? And if so, where are they mounted?


----- Response -----
From: tkturbo@bellsouth.net
10/23/2003 08:23 PM

Yes, I use four lightweight 13lb Oddysey racing batteries--two sets in series running 24V. This is not a regenerative system, but can be charged if the alternator is upgraded to 200+ amps and a SPDT switch is wired to relays controlling the charging. I will include some schematics as well as dyno runs of the 3.5 V6 Avenger I own so you can see the legitimatecy of this design.

Omicron

and the "schematic"