Dyno'd today w/GReddy Turbo - Charts Posted!
07-19-2005, 05:00 PM
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Dyno'd today w/GReddy Turbo - Charts Posted!
This was done on a dynojet. Temp outside was about 96, inside the garage...not sure, fan was blowing into the intercooler.
The 222hp run was done with the Original GReddy map from December.
The 210hp run was done with the updated GReddy map from March (Mazdamaniac's rightfully).
As you can see, after 6000RPM, it goes f**kin' insane, dumping in so much fuel. The dyno guy is a capable tuner as well, but is not too familiar with the e-manage software, so we didn't attempt it today.
If anybody has had a similar base run before tunning, and has a tuned map currently, I would be extremely grateful to try it out!
Comments on the results?
Take care!
The 222hp run was done with the Original GReddy map from December.
The 210hp run was done with the updated GReddy map from March (Mazdamaniac's rightfully).
As you can see, after 6000RPM, it goes f**kin' insane, dumping in so much fuel. The dyno guy is a capable tuner as well, but is not too familiar with the e-manage software, so we didn't attempt it today.
If anybody has had a similar base run before tunning, and has a tuned map currently, I would be extremely grateful to try it out!
Comments on the results?
Take care!
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07-19-2005, 05:41 PM
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This is ridiculous, all of the new Greddy kits are looking like **** from 6k up. Clearly Greddy screwed up the tuning. I don't know why they would go to a worse map, they seemed to have it right before. Someone who has a dyno to show them needs to call them and let them know that every rx8 that has dynod in the past 2 months with thier kit is running like ****.
07-19-2005, 07:48 PM
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Where can we get the original map from december, i have never had a good map cause i just got turboed a couple of weeks ago 
Heard it was on here but have not seen it.
Heard it was on here but have not seen it.
07-19-2005, 08:50 PM
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Check this thread. Exact problem of running too rich. Posted my tuned map (12.0 AFR) on there also, BUT I've got a hiflow cat. Try it out , much leaner up top.
My dynojet got me 218hp, looks like yours will go higher in the high rpms. What boost you at and are you using a boost controller?
My dynojet got me 218hp, looks like yours will go higher in the high rpms. What boost you at and are you using a boost controller?
07-19-2005, 10:31 PM
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After the dyno, I switched back to the earlier December map. Next time I dyno, we were going to do exactly what Fanman said and tune from that map (hopefully at the end of the week, begining of next :D ).
I imagine GReddy is just trying to play it safe by tuning the e-manage so rich...but daaaaaaaaaammmmnnnnn...
'nuff said, I aint reving past 6k until I gets a new tune.
Speaking of which, thanks for pointing me to that map adrian, I've been reading on that thread, but I must have past over it. I'm going to load it right now and see what happens...I'll post results later tonight.
I'm not using a boost controller, but it holds pretty good. Dips to about 6psi in the higher RPMs. I'll probably get one eventually to smoove things out. I thought you already had a profec B spec II?
zoomzoom_8, I'll attach the original GReddy map to this post for you
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I imagine GReddy is just trying to play it safe by tuning the e-manage so rich...but daaaaaaaaaammmmnnnnn...
'nuff said, I aint reving past 6k until I gets a new tune.
Speaking of which, thanks for pointing me to that map adrian, I've been reading on that thread, but I must have past over it. I'm going to load it right now and see what happens...I'll post results later tonight.
I'm not using a boost controller, but it holds pretty good. Dips to about 6psi in the higher RPMs. I'll probably get one eventually to smoove things out. I thought you already had a profec B spec II?
zoomzoom_8, I'll attach the original GReddy map to this post for you
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07-20-2005, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by dgerald
After the dyno, I switched back to the earlier December map. Next time I dyno, we were going to do exactly what Fanman said and tune from that map (hopefully at the end of the week, begining of next :D ).
I imagine GReddy is just trying to play it safe by tuning the e-manage so rich...but daaaaaaaaaammmmnnnnn...
'nuff said, I aint reving past 6k until I gets a new tune.
Speaking of which, thanks for pointing me to that map adrian, I've been reading on that thread, but I must have past over it. I'm going to load it right now and see what happens...I'll post results later tonight.
I'm not using a boost controller, but it holds pretty good. Dips to about 6psi in the higher RPMs. I'll probably get one eventually to smoove things out. I thought you already had a profec B spec II?
zoomzoom_8, I'll attach the original GReddy map to this post for you .
I imagine GReddy is just trying to play it safe by tuning the e-manage so rich...but daaaaaaaaaammmmnnnnn...
'nuff said, I aint reving past 6k until I gets a new tune.
Speaking of which, thanks for pointing me to that map adrian, I've been reading on that thread, but I must have past over it. I'm going to load it right now and see what happens...I'll post results later tonight.
I'm not using a boost controller, but it holds pretty good. Dips to about 6psi in the higher RPMs. I'll probably get one eventually to smoove things out. I thought you already had a profec B spec II?
zoomzoom_8, I'll attach the original GReddy map to this post for you
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07-20-2005, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by dgerald
After the dyno, I switched back to the earlier December map. Next time I dyno, we were going to do exactly what Fanman said and tune from that map (hopefully at the end of the week, begining of next :D ).
I imagine GReddy is just trying to play it safe by tuning the e-manage so rich...but daaaaaaaaaammmmnnnnn...
'nuff said, I aint reving past 6k until I gets a new tune.
Speaking of which, thanks for pointing me to that map adrian, I've been reading on that thread, but I must have past over it. I'm going to load it right now and see what happens...I'll post results later tonight.
I'm not using a boost controller, but it holds pretty good. Dips to about 6psi in the higher RPMs. I'll probably get one eventually to smoove things out. I thought you already had a profec B spec II?
zoomzoom_8, I'll attach the original GReddy map to this post for you .
I imagine GReddy is just trying to play it safe by tuning the e-manage so rich...but daaaaaaaaaammmmnnnnn...
'nuff said, I aint reving past 6k until I gets a new tune.
Speaking of which, thanks for pointing me to that map adrian, I've been reading on that thread, but I must have past over it. I'm going to load it right now and see what happens...I'll post results later tonight.
I'm not using a boost controller, but it holds pretty good. Dips to about 6psi in the higher RPMs. I'll probably get one eventually to smoove things out. I thought you already had a profec B spec II?
zoomzoom_8, I'll attach the original GReddy map to this post for you
.
07-20-2005, 02:58 AM
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I'm back, from my drive with adrian's map loaded. I had to swing by the Casino though (darn Indians).
The map runs very smooth and powerfull, with no knocking. It is the best feeling one that I have loaded in e-manage so far, and can't wait to try it on the dyno. For safety, I'm still taking it easy after 6000rpm, until I'm sure. Thanks again, bro!
To answer Lschiavo's question:
I downloaded that map from another thread awhile back, that said it was the original tune (with the password protection removed, of course).
The map runs very smooth and powerfull, with no knocking. It is the best feeling one that I have loaded in e-manage so far, and can't wait to try it on the dyno. For safety, I'm still taking it easy after 6000rpm, until I'm sure. Thanks again, bro!
To answer Lschiavo's question:
I downloaded that map from another thread awhile back, that said it was the original tune (with the password protection removed, of course).
07-20-2005, 11:42 AM
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Your welcome, bro.
I swithced to the E-01 so I don't have to use my laptop to switch maps and Benny said it would be easier to get the turbo to hold 7psi thoughout.
I swithced to the E-01 so I don't have to use my laptop to switch maps and Benny said it would be easier to get the turbo to hold 7psi thoughout.
07-20-2005, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dgerald
I'm back, from my drive with adrian's map loaded. I had to swing by the Casino though (darn Indians).
The map runs very smooth and powerfull, with no knocking. It is the best feeling one that I have loaded in e-manage so far, and can't wait to try it on the dyno. For safety, I'm still taking it easy after 6000rpm, until I'm sure. Thanks again, bro!
To answer Lschiavo's question:
I downloaded that map from another thread awhile back, that said it was the original tune (with the password protection removed, of course).
The map runs very smooth and powerfull, with no knocking. It is the best feeling one that I have loaded in e-manage so far, and can't wait to try it on the dyno. For safety, I'm still taking it easy after 6000rpm, until I'm sure. Thanks again, bro!
To answer Lschiavo's question:
I downloaded that map from another thread awhile back, that said it was the original tune (with the password protection removed, of course).
Are you running all stock with Adrian's map??
07-20-2005, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by adrian-1
I swithced to the E-01 so I don't have to use my laptop to switch maps and Benny said it would be easier to get the turbo to hold 7psi thoughout.
I swithced to the E-01 so I don't have to use my laptop to switch maps and Benny said it would be easier to get the turbo to hold 7psi thoughout.
Anyway, that's what the plan was until I read you were getting the e-01 to hold boost. Shouldn't you be able to do that with the spec II? Tunning on the fly I understand. If I would of had the e-01 when I dynoed yesterday, the e-manage would have gotten itself tuned (my dyno guy knows how to tune with it)!
Originally Posted by Speedrx8er
Are you running all stock with Adrian's map??
Are you running all stock with Adrian's map??
1) Added a GReddy type RS BOV, adjusted a little more on the Soft side (not too much)
2) Tuned to 7psi by adjusting the wastegate.
3) Replaced all Spark Plugs with 1-step colder Densos
4) Replaced Spark Plug Wires with Racing Beat Ultras
5) Added GReddy SP2 exhaust
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07-20-2005, 05:12 PM
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Yeah...I've been meaning to ask you about that, adrian. I was planning on getting a boost controller to see if I could hold boost throughout with it (most likely the profec B spec II...and I liked where you put it also...LOL you should sell it to me, console plate and everything!).
Anyway, that's what the plan was until I read you were getting the e-01 to hold boost. Shouldn't you be able to do that with the spec II? Tunning on the fly I understand. If I would of had the e-01 when I dynoed yesterday, the e-manage would have gotten itself tuned (my dyno guy knows how to tune with it)!
Anyway, that's what the plan was until I read you were getting the e-01 to hold boost. Shouldn't you be able to do that with the spec II? Tunning on the fly I understand. If I would of had the e-01 when I dynoed yesterday, the e-manage would have gotten itself tuned (my dyno guy knows how to tune with it)!
You can use it to hold psi but it'll still drop alittle. The E-01 has a feaure where you can change the duty cycle for different RPM's. Here's benny's comments about using the E-01 over the Profec B Spec II....
Originally Posted by benny
"It might make the boost a little more consistent, but for keeping a steady 7 PSI, the E-01 would be much better. The B Spec II will still drop a little, but not as drastic as stock. The only way to adjust that is with the gain setting on the boost controller. The E-01 actually has an RPM offset where you can adjust the boost at different RPM points.
07-20-2005, 05:18 PM
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why on earth are you guys turboing your cars for a 30 whp gain? You're voiding your warranty's and still have a car that will lose in a straight lines to cars that cost half the price... what am i missing?
07-20-2005, 05:38 PM
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why on earth are you guys turboing your cars for a 30 whp gain? You're voiding your warranty's and still have a car that will lose in a straight lines to cars that cost half the price... what am i missing?
wait i no the answer to this. BECAUSE THEY CAN!!!!!
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07-20-2005, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by cleoent
why on earth are you guys turboing your cars for a 30 whp gain? You're voiding your warranty's and still have a car that will lose in a straight lines to cars that cost half the price... what am i missing?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but this thread is about people having problems with their turbo setup right after install. By reading this thread you can tell that the subject turbo hasn't been tuned yet. If I got +30HP untuned I'd be happy. Like everyother mod that has to do with AFR, you MUST tune on the 8 to get decent results.
Fanman got +60whp after tuning. RX8PR got +80whp from his tuned setup. Tuning is the missing part of the equation here.
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08-03-2005, 08:05 PM
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Breaking News:
I was just about to dyno tune the car tomorrow and I kept on milling the posted results and decided to check the ignition coils.
...all 4 coils seem to be blown
On all 4:
A&B were around 1.7k (according to the shop manual this should be okay)
B&C were OPEN (THIS IS THE PROBLEM)
A&C were OPEN (which is normal)
All of them with the same failures? Strange, but it would account for my cold start stalling in the morning, hellacious backfiring, and total crap out after 6000.
Happy and sad about this:
Sad = $200 loss, pussyfoooting the car until I can get it replaced
Happy = If I'm gett 222whp with blown coils and stock tunning, I'm jazzed about how it will run afterwards.
Something for everyone to keep in mind .
I was just about to dyno tune the car tomorrow and I kept on milling the posted results and decided to check the ignition coils.
...all 4 coils seem to be blown
On all 4:
A&B were around 1.7k (according to the shop manual this should be okay)
B&C were OPEN (THIS IS THE PROBLEM)
A&C were OPEN (which is normal)
All of them with the same failures? Strange, but it would account for my cold start stalling in the morning, hellacious backfiring, and total crap out after 6000.
Happy and sad about this:
Sad = $200 loss, pussyfoooting the car until I can get it replaced
Happy = If I'm gett 222whp with blown coils and stock tunning, I'm jazzed about how it will run afterwards.
Something for everyone to keep in mind
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08-03-2005, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
The current MAP will not be nearly as lean after your long term fuel trims settle in after a few days of driving.
Are you saying (after I replace the coils of course) that after a dyno tune, or loading any MAP that runs more on the lean side, the ECU is going to richen me up? I know there's a learning process for a little while after reseting the ECU, but after the long term fuel trims have settled, will it still "learn" after tunning the e-manage?
Can I humbly ask, if you were in my current position, what order of steps would you take to achieve the most efficient long term results?
Thanks!