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Old 06-07-2007, 08:32 PM
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ic, thanks for you reply!
and for #2, you were talking about with out the boost controller I will lose about 2 psi in the intake manifold, so what is the net maximum boost in the intake manifold really means? does it mean if I don't have the boost controller, my car won't spool as fast (or as soon?) and will I still have the max psi?
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so is what i said was right?
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Kinda hard to totally answer the question. Basically, if your wastegate is going to open at say 8 PSI, and you run the signal line from the turbo output then by the time it reaches the manifold, it will be say 6 PSI, so you will only make 6 PSI at the engine. If you then add a boost controller, depending on what kind, you will delay/stop/lower the signal for the wastegate speeding spool time and allowing you to dial the boost back up to 8 PSI at the manifold, but your wastegate signal will be 10 psi.

Make sense?
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ok...so no matter i do the mod #2 or not, im gonna lose the 2 psi anyways right?
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Ok so I have read this thread a few times, and I have seen everyone talking about the Emanage Blue. I believe I have a later kit that came with the Emanage Ultimate. My question is, are the fixes in this thread applicable to the Emanage Ultimate also? or are they just for the Blue. Does the Ultimate still have the same problems as the Blue? Or is that why they changed it to the Ultimate? Also are the maps that are downladable here compatible with the Ultimate?

This is what I have installed: Complete Greddy turbo kit w/ Emanage Ultimate, HKS SSQV BOV, And HKS Twin Power Ignition. All installed following instructions included with the Greddy kit.

My main problem so far is that I have a flashing CEL 90% of the time. I took it to my old shop and tried to check the CEL but had no luck communicating with the computer. I figured it would't but it was worth a shot. I am also wondering if the HKS Twin Power may be causing the flashing CEL, from what I know most flashing CEL's are due to catalyst damaging misfires.

The spiking issues I understand now and will be doing the fix on that as soon as I have time. As for now I just keep my foot out of it.

I also have experienced some detination, but I also assume that will be taken care of with the addition of the maps in this thread.

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You still need the restrictor; and change the wastegate signal.

If you are getting detonation and a CEL - something is wrong... could be tuning; ignition etc.... typically a totaly stock factory EMU install will not trip a CEL or ping - but that is NOT a guaruntee.

Are you logging your engines performance? Is the EMU tripping any errors itself? Do you have an AFR gauge?
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I need to go back and re-edit the top posts in this thread to encompass the changes in the e-manage and the kit itself.
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Originally Posted by Kane
You still need the restrictor; and change the wastegate signal.

If you are getting detonation and a CEL - something is wrong... could be tuning; ignition etc.... typically a totaly stock factory EMU install will not trip a CEL or ping - but that is NOT a guaruntee.

Are you logging your engines performance? Is the EMU tripping any errors itself? Do you have an AFR gauge?
Well I did get the kit second hand, and I do not know if the Emanage has been unlocked or if someone has been playing with it. I don't have the support tool so I can not monitor anything. I am going to order the support tool this week. If anyone can tell me the best place to get it that would be great. I have found it on a few different sites including links here.

I do have a setup, I'm not sure if it came with the Ultimate or not (option maybe), but it has an extra O2 sensor the runs directly to the Emanage. So I am assuming that I don't need another wideband. I suppose I will find out more when I get the support tool.

I didn't think that the kit should cause a CEL, but I wasn't sure. This is my first time dealing with a obd2/ aftermarket turbo car.

Also what is the restictor that you are talking about?
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or did you meen resistor?
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I was referring to the oil line restrictor - to keep your turbo healthy. THe sotck setup delivers too much oil.

The support tool is a FREE download - so go get it now! If you do not know whether you are driving on the factory tune or not....... well, lets say that may not be the best decision ever made.

An AFR is a seperate gauge that reads the AFR and displays it while you drive - it can also be added to EMU and then EMU will log it.
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Actually, the programming tool for the EMU isn't free, only the updates.
You can download the whole thing from my site, however.
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Learn something new every day! Thanks for clarifying Jeff.
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Well I will have to download that when I get home. Will the support tool work properly on Vista? And I will have to order a cable, don't have that either. Thanks for the help so far guys. I'll let you know what I find out as soon as I get it hooked up.
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You don't need a special cable for the Ultimate - just a regular USB A/B cable.
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That is also good to know!! I think I will be checking this out sooner then later now! Another question, does the software work on Vista?
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Originally Posted by rotarypower88
does the software work on Vista?
That I can't tell you.
I wouldn't touch Vista with a ten-foot-pole.
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I downloaded it, and like I said in the email I sent you, it seems to be working just fine with Vista. I'm going to get a cable tomorrow, so I post some updates then
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Ok, so I have the cable and software now. It works just fine with Vista.

So I have been playing around with it tonight. First off it is unlocked, and some one has been playing with it. I downloaded the base map, and installed that and it seems to be doing a little better. Second I did the updates that were on MM's site. It needed both of them.

I played around with installing some of the maps I found here and also on MM's site. Two of the maps on here I couldn't even get to load. I downloaded them and went to open them in the support tool and it said nothing was there.
I also loaded MM's current boosted maps. That my car did not like at all!! It barely ran, it didn't want to boost, it died on me and did not want to restart. In no way am I downing him. That map is probably just not right for my setup.

I'm probably going to work on it tomorrow to try to get fixes 1 and 2 done. Is there anything I can do to help you guys find out how the injectors are wired on the Ultimate, so I can get my car running right.

I'm sorry for asking so many questions, but I am a total newb when it comes to tuning. I can build a car and turn a wrench like no other, but when it comes to tuning them I got nothin. Thanks for all the help so far!!

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Have you updated your firmware on the EMU? Its up to v1.13.

Also - my MAPs will only work with my wiring scheme, so read up on that.
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I did the 2.12 update that is on your site. I saw the 2.13 on Greddy's website I have not done that yet. If that is what you mean, you said 1.13
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Oops. I thought I had 2.13 on my site. I'll update it.
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Hey "MazdaManiac"

Is there any chance you could explain these steps with pictures to make it easier to understand?

I need to do step 1 & 2 but I am not confident I can pull it off without better instructions.
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Originally Posted by turborx8
Hey "MazdaManiac"

Is there any chance you could explain these steps with pictures to make it easier to understand?

I need to do step 1 & 2 but I am not confident I can pull it off without better instructions.
You are kidding, right?
What did you do? Read just the first post and then hit reply?
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
You are kidding, right?
What did you do? Read just the first post and then hit reply?
To be completely honest, I did not read the whole thread but I did skim thru the whole thing.

I bought the int-x today so only fix#2 applies to me. You said and I quote:

"Obviously, only #2 applies to the Int-X, which needs fixes of its own to be street-friendly"

What fixes does the int-x need to become street friendly??
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Originally Posted by turborx8
To be completely honest, I did not read the whole thread but I did skim thru the whole thing.
Read the whole thing and then search for my posts on everything else.
I'm not going to explain it all again.
Every possible question you could possibly conceive has been answered already.


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