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BDC 10-30-2011 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by Karack (Post 4111713)
i'm sure even the renesis could still benefit slightly from a full bridge

but you have to keep in mind it isn't a very street friendly port

AND

you will lose about half of your current fuel mileage. is it worth it for about a 40 horsepower gain? turbo + AI is what i would go for if i owned an 8 and wanted more power, to retain drivability AND mileage.

sure a bridge sounds great but there is 0 chance of being smoggable legally, it is herky jerky at low RPMs and gets horrible fuel mileage and leaves you smelling like a filling station at the end of every drive. i talk people OUT of bridges all the time.

It's nowhere near that bad, Karack. I was pleasantly surprised to see how tame it actually is; much more so than what we're used to with the Rx7's. :)

B

BDC 10-30-2011 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by alnielsen (Post 4111825)
AI = Alcohol Injection?

Auxiliary Injection; usually anything referring to water or alcohol injection.

B

olddragger 10-31-2011 08:11 AM

I want to cautiously say that a bridge may even help with life expectancy for this engine. Time will tell. I think maybe Mazda put the sideseals too close to the combustion face and the bridge can help with cooling toward that area?
Anyone put FI on a bridged engine yet?

reddozen 10-31-2011 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by olddragger (Post 4114040)
I want to cautiously say that a bridge may even help with life expectancy for this engine. Time will tell. I think maybe Mazda put the sideseals too close to the combustion face and the bridge can help with cooling toward that area?
Anyone put FI on a bridged engine yet?

Probably not. I think I'm still the only one rolling around with one on the streets unless Brian has had some other takers. I would like to do FI on it, but money is tight right now with trying to buy a house and put a 20b in the RX7.

hoss -05 10-31-2011 01:03 PM

I think there is another somewhere. I almost bought one of Brian's bridge port engines but the deal fell wayside. Never kept track of where it went.

reddozen 10-31-2011 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by hoss -05 (Post 4114314)
I think there is another somewhere. I almost bought one of Brian's bridge port engines but the deal fell wayside. Never kept track of where it went.

I think that's the one that went to Eric for testing.

skc 10-31-2011 06:14 PM

We had a bridge port running at our nationals track event this year. He ended up having overheating issues and lost compression to one rotor.

olddragger 10-31-2011 06:30 PM

what happened? The heat did the compression in or a side seal let go?
OD

skc 10-31-2011 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by olddragger (Post 4114601)
what happened? The heat did the compression in or a side seal let go?
OD

I am pretty sure it was side seal failure. He was seeing temps of around 280F.

9krpmrx8 10-31-2011 11:12 PM

280F? Yikes.

skc 10-31-2011 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4114775)
280F? Yikes.

I know, by the time I found out the damage was done. Unfortunately the driver was not aware of the dangers of such high temps.

olddragger 11-01-2011 08:02 AM

huh? You mean he GOT to 280F. Dang thats a testimony in itself.
OD

skc 11-01-2011 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by olddragger (Post 4114942)
huh? You mean he GOT to 280F. Dang thats a testimony in itself.
OD

It was a newly built motor. He then drove home some 150 km on one rotor.

PhillipM 11-01-2011 07:33 PM

Ouch, one thing that'll kill 'em quick, ours overdrives the engine fans and chucks some cooling fuel in any time it even creeps over 210F, 230F and it's starts to pull the rev limiter down too....

L337fpc 11-09-2011 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by mitsokid (Post 4111034)
I was told there was one other person willing to invest the money to have this done, tuned and tweaked but he wouldn't be able to do it until late winter.

That'd be me and I will be posting updates to my build/racing blog.

reddozen 11-09-2011 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by L337fpc (Post 4120864)
That'd be me and I will be posting updates to my build/racing blog.

COPYCAT!!!

lol... j/k. I'm sure it will work out just fine. Mine id doing great, I'm just having problems with other components on the car. You should bring it to deals gap next year, we'll make everyone jealous with our bridge ported... nes.

L337fpc 11-09-2011 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by reddozen (Post 4120889)
COPYCAT!!!

lol... j/k. I'm sure it will work out just fine. Mine id doing great, I'm just having problems with other components on the car. You should bring it to deals gap next year, we'll make everyone jealous with our bridge ported... nes.

Definitely. However, i plan on driving the crap out of this motor. My goal is to hit at least 1 track a month (April-October) for next year.

TeamRX8 11-09-2011 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by olddragger (Post 4114942)
huh? You mean he GOT to 280F. Dang thats a testimony in itself.
OD


Evans claims that an engine can safely get that hot with their NPG coolant as long as the oil temp is below 245F

cavemancan 11-09-2011 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4121361)
Evans claims that an engine can safely get that hot with their NPG coolant as long as the oil temp is below 245F

Anybody use this stuff? I understand the theory behind it but Does it really work?

TeamRX8 11-09-2011 07:51 PM

You should probably stay in the wading end of the pool

dannobre 11-09-2011 08:21 PM

Lol ;)

olddragger 11-09-2011 09:25 PM

it has its place.

hoss -05 11-09-2011 09:57 PM

I have three gallons of the stuff sitting at home. Waiting to put it in, Ill do it when I do the engine, pump all coolant hoses and rad. Just got to blow out and flush the heater core the best I can.

cavemancan 11-21-2011 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4121622)
You should probably stay in the wading end of the pool

Since I am trying to progress to the deep end I was foolishly hoping for more helpful information. This is like the cocky frat boy trying to haze the newb...LOL! I see a pattern in your posts. :cwm27:

Highway8 11-21-2011 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by cavemancan (Post 4129905)
Since I am trying to progress to the deep end I was foolishly hoping for more helpful information. This is like the cocky frat boy trying to haze the newb...LOL! I see a pattern in your posts. :cwm27:

People use it (including myself) and it works, but it is not a miracle coolant. Basically you can run your ECT hotter without all hell coming loose. Evans has a very high boiling temp which allows you to run lower pressure, or if you get a leak and loose pressure, the boiling temp doesnt drop to an unsafe temp causing boiling and engine failure like you would see with a traditional water based coolant. Consider the stuff a safety net. I would not intentionally run extra high ECT's, but if your in the middle of a race and look down to see your temp guage in the red zone, you can back off a little, let it drop and you have probably not done any serious damage. Also, if you spring a small leak and need to limp home, you can take the coolant cap loose so no pressure will build, you will loose less coolant and you should be able to make it home.


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