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Old Dec 29, 2021 | 12:32 PM
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She even has more 'glow' now ...lol



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Old Dec 29, 2021 | 01:39 PM
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She even has more 'glow' now ...lol
Nice combination: "Beauty and the Boost"
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Old Dec 29, 2021 | 05:21 PM
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Brett - please post more pictures of the installation and piping after the new version is installed. Just scrolled through the thread again and see the 2" 90d elbow off the turbo outlet but can't tell if the next pipe stays at 2" or transitions to 2.5" before increasing to 3" at the IC.

Took some effort but got there eventually. Wheel well seems cooler after this extra shielding


Manifold also shielded ... for heat management .

Turbo in wheel well before exit coupler fitted

Underneath showing how tight it is before WG pipe fitted. Intake pipe was a real mission to make as you can see from all the welds.


from front looking rearward

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Old Dec 29, 2021 | 05:29 PM
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Which brand of shielding is that? Don't recall seeing that type before.
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Old Dec 29, 2021 | 05:37 PM
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Which brand of shielding is that? Don't recall seeing that type before.
This stuff
HEAT SHIELD 330X240 - MP4116 - Permaseal | Repco New Zealand
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
Probably the biggest difference I'm noticing is coming out of low speed right angle corners in second gear ...... this setup is spooling a good 4-500rpm sooner than the 3582 was.

seems right in line with the expectation; the 3582 is bigger/heavier/more MOI, less efficient, and the 0.83 housing for it flows more than the G30 0.83 housing.

thanks for posting those pics, very interesting.

that heat shielding link didn’t provide much info, here it is from another site:

With a unique corrugated construction, aluminized steel outer shell and thermal silicate wool core, Permaseal MLS-R thermal heat shield offers a high temperature thermal barrier for automotive and industrial applications.

While providing exceptional operating rigidity, the heat shield is a light-weight and easily workable for complex forming and shaping. Common shielding applications include turbo-chargers, exhaust pipes, manifolds, and protecting rubber or heat sensitive components.

While offering am excellent thermal barrier, the heat shielding provides the added benefit of sound attenuation.
  • Finished Product Thickness: 4.45mm
  • High Temperature Thermal Barrier
  • Engine Bay Temps 800-900C
  • Noise Dampening
  • Light-Weight
  • Easily Cut & formed
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
Took some effort but got there eventually. Wheel well seems cooler after this extra shielding...
To mitigate heat in the footwell, I:
  • added additional shielding, over the entire saddle, under the trans tunnel aluminum protector
  • run a turbine cover
  • and DP heat wrap
...and have experienced no discernible heat in the footwell.

Btw: the trans tunnel heat shielding also resolved the heating of the cup holders as well.

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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 12:16 PM
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...and have experienced no discernible heat in the footwell.
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Yeah , I have similar shielding.
Just came back from a 400km cruise around the Coromandel wearing bare feet the whole way. Left foot still gets a little warm but not too bad.
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Old Dec 31, 2021 | 02:40 AM
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Have either of you tried ceramic coating the hot side of the turbo, mani, downpipe, etc?
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Old Dec 31, 2021 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Brettus

Took some effort but got there eventually. Wheel well seems cooler after this extra shielding


Manifold also shielded ... for heat management .

Turbo in wheel well before exit coupler fitted

Underneath showing how tight it is before WG pipe fitted. Intake pipe was a real mission to make as you can see from all the welds.


from front looking rearward
man thats a tight fit!
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Old Dec 31, 2021 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 3toedSloth
Have either of you tried ceramic coating the hot side of the turbo, mani, downpipe, etc?
No, I chose not to ceramic coat anything ...believing that heat shielding w/b sufficient.
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Old Dec 31, 2021 | 01:07 PM
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I had my old Greddy manifold ceramic coated ..... it worked ok for a while but then started flaking off after a few years. It's very prone to mechanical damage.
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 12:30 PM
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Just finished retuning after swapping injectors from:
brown/uncapped yellow/uncapped yellow (650/850/850)
to all series 2
Green/brown/brown (500/650/650)
Was able to drop idle from 1000 down to 900 and get probably the smoothest idle I've ever had . Didn't notice any other improvements but I suspect fuel economy will be even better than it already was and having much better spray patterns now has to offer some small gains in detonation resistance and overall power at same boost settings.

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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 08:01 PM
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Wouldn’t have any issue at all with Injector Dynamics injectors, at least on the primary. You have to find the old long body style to fit in the primary holes though. The ID1000’s will idle as low as you want.
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 08:07 PM
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The browns caused surge at 900 , I'm surprised the ID1000s do better.
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because they’re superior to OE injectors in every regard. A 13B will low idle just fine on ID1300s even, but they were never offered in the long body version.
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 08:51 PM
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Have you actually tried them on a Renesis ? I would imagine the Renesis uses quite a bit less fuel than an older 13B at idle.
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yes, people on here have already used them on the Renesis primary

the people at ID are well familiar with the Renesis flow requirement, you’d don’t seem to be aware of the technology for low flow development on them

but at the risk of talking to the hand again, I’ll gladly send you a pair to try and confirm for yourself

edit: forgot I actually have some ID725 long bodies to send. You definitely won’t have any issue at all with them.

http://injectordynamics.com/articles/low-pulse-tech/
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Old Jan 4, 2022 | 09:07 AM
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Sorry for my ignorance but what is injector surge? just sudden dump of fuel on light throttle?
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Old Jan 4, 2022 | 11:51 AM
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Sorry for my ignorance but what is injector surge? just sudden dump of fuel on light throttle?
My remark about surge was relating to the unstable idle at 900rpm I observed when the S2 browns were fitted in P1.

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yes, people on here have already used them on the Renesis primary

the people at ID are well familiar with the Renesis flow requirement, you’d don’t seem to be aware of the technology for low flow development on them

but at the risk of talking to the hand again, I’ll gladly send you a pair to try and confirm for yourself

edit: forgot I actually have some ID725 long bodies to send. You definitely won’t have any issue at all with them.

Low Pulse Tech - Injector Dynamics
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No I wasn't aware of the low flow tech. Will keep that in mind for the future ...thanks.
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I didn’t fully get it either early on, but back when I was intending to plug the primaries and idle off the P2s instead they told me the 1350s would be ok for that.

However, ended up getting an S2 intake manifold since then and will use the long bodies for Pri instead with a pair of Sec for a 4-injector system. Of course you can program all that in the Adaptronic Modular ecu too as far as flow balancing the fuel goes for better distribution wrt Pri vs Sec. I wanted the APV position sensor indication on the S2 manifold mostly though.
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Old Jan 8, 2022 | 07:36 AM
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Brett, Have you begun distributing mani's from the first run to purchasers yet?

Curious when we may begin seeing those new build threads.
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Old Jan 8, 2022 | 10:52 AM
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Brett, Have you begun distributing mani's from the first run to purchasers yet?

Curious when we may begin seeing those new build threads.
Have sent out the first one to a guy in Aussie which he should get this week. Don't think he frequents this forum though, so unlikely we will see a build thread from him.
I've been at the mercy of the casters (now using two separate companies) and between covid lockdowns and a huge surge in demand for just about everything, It's taking way longer than I anticipated. The economy here has gone crazy because no-one is traveling overseas so they are all spending their money internally.
There should be at least further five get made this month with most of those guys being on here so hopefully there will be some build threads soon.
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Old Jan 8, 2022 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Cgoebel
man thats a tight fit!
Yeah, you aint wrong. It was a fight for every mm of space in every direction. If it's all assembled in a logical order it's not too bad though. Much easier to put together than a Greddy setup.
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