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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 05:56 PM
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Boosting my rx8

I am new to all this so please do not hate!

I have been told numerous things and I was just looking to get some better answers.

I have my 05 Shinka Rx8 with a 13b renesis. I am trying to get it to around 400hp.

I have been told that I can only run 8lbs or i will blow my motor but then some people say if I have new injectors and seals and what not I can run more.

What I have done already:
1. New injectors (1000cc InjectorDynamics)
2. Street Port
3. Every seal is brand new (FD goopy seals)

I want to kow how much lbs of boost I can run and if I can run more then 8lbs like I have been told and how many HP do you think I will get with what I have done already...
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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I am 100% serious with this...

Read this thread that started a short time ago with another Shinka owner: https://www.rx8club.com/lounge-4/nee...4/#post4410193

Not only is there some valuable information about the answers you are looking for, there is also some valuable information about asking for help and getting the answers.


My apologies if I come off a bit short at the moment.

(Moving this to the major horsepower mod section as well)
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 06:34 PM
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Can anyone just answer my questions about this. Like I said I am new to all this and I am in the process right now. I just need to know if I am in the right direction to aim for 400hp and if what I am doing is okay or I might blow my motor...
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rx8 Florida
Can anyone just answer my questions about this. Like I said I am new to all this and I am in the process right now. I just need to know if I am in the right direction to aim for 400hp and if what I am doing is okay or I might blow my motor...
I can tell you right now this thread will go downhill quite quickly if you ignore really great advice.
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 06:36 PM
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Sigh.

See my modding thread. It lists problems with making power and general caps. No, you can't hit 400whp easily at all, and almost certainly not on the engine build you have. 300whp is going to be doable, but not easily or simply.

See my modding thread for more info.


After the guy in the thread I linked, I don't have much patience for people looking to be spoon fed answers right now.
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 06:56 PM
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roger that--you will never have a reliable 400 rwhp 13msp engine without some major work.
Matter of fact I know of no one that is driving a dd 400rwhp 13 msp engine. There may be one--but I dont know of any.
I do know some 300+ ( less than 350 ) rwhp folks that are doing it.
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RIWWP
After the guy in the thread I linked, I don't have much patience for people looking to be spoon fed answers right now.
We hold a meeting every Thursday night for NOTANOTHERFINGN00B ANONYMOUS. It sounds like you are ready to take the plunge and accept the inevitable now.
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 10:42 PM
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My patience gets rebuild periodically. I do accept the inevitability of the wall of them cascading down. It's why I fight against it really.
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by olddragger
roger that--you will never have a reliable 13msp engine without some major work.
fixed.


and that is all you need to know before boosting.
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 07:04 AM
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What does running more than 8lbs mean?

Judging by your post no, you can't achieve that result. It's a really hard and expensive task for the ones who know what they're doing. A category you definitely don't fit in.
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 07:05 AM
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Great question OP, I want to know too

Why won't you jerks just answer the question
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 07:07 AM
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I am new to all this so please do not hate!

I have been told numerous things and I was just looking to get some better answers.
Thats all i needed to read....
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Rx8 Florida
What I have done already:
1. New injectors (1000cc InjectorDynamics)
2. Street Port
3. Every seal is brand new (FD goopy seals)
How about a tuning solution?

How many 1000cc injectors?

Which positions?

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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 02:37 PM
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I have 4 1000cc secondary injectors, I have it street ported and polished, 8lbs of boost, and all new seals. (Going to get it DynoTuned)

I was just wondering on some general knowledge of what I should expect HP wise.. I don't know why half of you guys troll and **** and not just help or give some advice.
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 02:50 PM
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It goes like this, pretty much:

We see your severe lack of detail along with the hot words of turbocharging. You haven't mentioned anything about the critical stuff and only mentioned the things that piston guys do when they go for a HP number. It makes us very skeptical that you will actually have an engine that survives.

So why don't we give you the information you need? Because we are pretty sure that you have missed far too many critical things for us to even know where to begin for what you need to do to fix it. But we are also pretty sure that you aren't interested in listening to what we have to say. You haven't bothered to learn from the information already on here to even know what type of question to ask, so why would that change now?


So the responses are largely just dark humor while we wait for you to blow your engine, and either come back asking intelligently why (unlikely) or come back complaining like crazy about the engine, your tuner, or this community, rather than complaining about the one person whose fault it is actually going to be: YOURS.



You won't be the first to follow this route. Not even in the top 50. It's all far too predictable to us, and until or unless you actually want to start learning and listening and reading, we know that actual responses are largely worthless. A waste of time.

Commenting on it it still popular however, like the group of guys watching a ballgame of a the top ranked team against the bottom ranked team. They know what's coming, and can't stop commenting on it anyway. You might pull off a hail mary and surprise everyone, but you opted to stack the odds against yourself.
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 02:50 PM
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This will give you a rough idea on what to expect if everything is set up properly ..........

https://www.rx8club.com/major-horsep...turbos-201475/
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 02:55 PM
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Rx8 Flordia, note the highlighted words here:

Originally Posted by Brettus
This will give you a rough idea on what to expect if everything is set up properly ..........
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 02:56 PM
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also : https://www.rx8club.com/major-horsep...m-here-180037/
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 03:04 PM
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400 HP is a very very rare club if indeed its happened at all depends on what you believe.
I'm going to assume you mean 400 to the wheels.

You'll need to do a lot more than porting the engine to get with any kind of reliability.

If you knew anything about boosting a 13B MSP you wouldn't be asking how to get to 400.

8lbs not likely to even get close to 300

You need bigger fuel pump
Oil cooling
Radiator
Tuning
Internals
Drivetrain
Etc etc

Do you even know what type of setup you want?

Last edited by wcs; Jan 19, 2013 at 03:12 PM.
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 03:05 PM
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Not to mention which turbo, which engine management, etc...
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 03:08 PM
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OP needs to move to Puerto Rico.

Really surprised we're up to 20 posts and no one knows what turbo will be used running 8 lbs of bewst to reach 400rwhp.

14-20 lbs of boost on a low compression motor just might be the answer LOL
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 03:29 PM
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He's a noob! And lazy as **** should have just searched to save everyone from flaming him...but I guess he can't take good advice!
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 03:53 AM
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two things SEARCH and READ, the knowledge and experience is here from everyone who has done it and tried it. Been there done that sort of speak. stop being lazy.......
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 06:48 AM
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just use the twin turbos from an fd
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 07:05 AM
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^but he has to do the non-sequential mod first. running them sequential is for lames
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