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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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It is my understanding that Mazda traditionally only makes yellow in the first year (for sports cars) of a new model. They replaced the yellow with white for year 2.
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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You all must remember those little station wagons of the '70's. Seems they were all yellow and they made a couple of million of 'em. That's why they must have run out of yellow paint.
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 01:28 AM
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This means I'm official?
Yes, Richard is official!!!

While I didn't get an RX-8, I did get another (my 3rd) RX-7 today!
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
You all must remember those little station wagons of the '70's. Seems they were all yellow and they made a couple of million of 'em. That's why they must have run out of yellow paint.
pintos? pacers? vega wagon?
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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ha i was looking for a pic of the vega and i found this one of jungle jims car. he was a family freind back then. we used to go by his house sometimes and catch him at the track on weekends in the pits. my uncle turned wrenches for him for a while
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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love it.. I had a Very nice Vega !! hehe .. it was a V8 eater all the way.. except i buitl the Hell out of the $ banger and stuck side draft carbs on it.. man that was a fun car.. I finlly retierd it when the unibody starting showing sigens of streess.. Funny thing is.. the Vega and the Rx8 have lots in comment.. Body size .. Weight.. I always wanted to put the 280 z suspension in the vega and mid mount a Rotery !!

now i dont need to i have an rx8 hehehe..
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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where'd everyone go?
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
where'd everyone go?
I guess nothing new to talk about, at least for now. I'm sure Richard'll stir it up sometime in the near future with some random physics and blah blah that I don't quite understand :p Maybe he's playing with his 8, who knows? I guess time will tell. Richard, I don't know if you already have done it, but maybe you could post some pictures of your 8?
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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He created a wormhole effect and was sucked into the nexus
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 01:58 PM
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^^^ I hate it when that happens.

Let's see... Richard has a new RX-8 and a supercharger custom designed for it. And he's not on his computer.... What *could* he be doing?!??
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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I know what I'd be doing!! :D

And I wouldnt be back till monday...if only i had a supercharger..I would be doing the same thing!!
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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Come out Come out wherever you are..........
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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any estimates on when the supercharger will be ready for sale?
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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Late summer is my guess
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 08:08 AM
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have they posted any dyno #s now that they have a working product to play with?

also any word on price?

Sorry if it has already been posted, but I can't read through 106 pages to find out...not in the mood to make my eyes bleed!
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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No and No.

As far as I know, he's still working on designing how the device will fit under the hood, after that he'll have the fuel management to worry about.

Price, I don't think he's given any estimates. I wouldn't expect it to be 3k (too cheap for his R&D) and I wouldn't expect it to be $15k (too expensive to sell any units) :D

This should end up being more costly as compared to other FI solutions out there. However, you'll get a unique, custom designed product and excellent craftmanship.

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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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you guys keep this up and richard's never going to see the yellow vega and jungle jims car i posted on the previous page
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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so whats the news then?

I got a yellow car, and i like the sound of a supercharger!
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by guy321
No and No.

As far as I know, he's still working on designing how the device will fit under the hood, after that he'll have the fuel management to worry about.

Price, I don't think he's given any estimates. I wouldn't expect it to be 3k (too cheap for his R&D) and I wouldn't expect it to be $15k (too expensive to sell any units) :D

This should end up being more costly as compared to other FI solutions out there. However, you'll get a unique, custom designed product and excellent craftmanship.
i would also guess that the supercharger is an easier install, so money would be saved there...

another perk would be the fact that the supercharger has a better chance of passing emissions than the greddy.

do we have any idea as to how much boost is going to be run? will we hopfully see similar power to the greddy?
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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Also, if the SC wont pass emissions (which it may not here in houston), it should be a lot easier to put it back stock to get past the inspection......We have to do it every year here.
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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anyone have any idea on how many hours the install would take?
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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Also, if the SC wont pass emissions (which it may not here in houston), it should be a lot easier to put it back stock to get past the inspection......We have to do it every year here.
It is very easy to pass emissions here. They don't do a visual inspection. All they do is plug the car into the OBDII port under the dash. If there are no CEL's, you pass.
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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I was just discussing passing emissions on the phone today with a well-known shop. I was informed that with any forced induction on the 8, it will trip a CEL and therefore passing emissions in regards to the OBDII plug-in will be very difficult. The mass air sensor was specifically mentioned in the explanation.

I thought so far everyone with FI has not had lasting CEL issues and if there is no visual inspection, there shouldn't be a problem passing emissions?

Can anyone explain this?
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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I haven't done this yet so take what I say with that in mind. I'm speaking for my system only, a draw through. The MAF itself has no way of knowing that there is a supercharger on the car. It only flows the air that the engine demands. Only if it is programed to yell if more mass goes through the they thought would, will it report a CEL.
I have to believe that some sensor or combination of sensors will detect something askew. That will have to be something we trick it into forgetting about. I can't say what it will be because like I said we haven't done it yet. But The way I plan on doing it the stock maps will remain intact. If this method works then there will be no CEL and the car will run exactly the way it did until it goes positive in the manifold.
My SC is the only one that can do it this way as we will not bother the stock injectors. By using two new injectors on the inlet of the blower we will get the advantage of exceptional mixing and distribution. Added to this we reduce the temp of the intake charge without an IC. These things will not be viable with other types of blowers. In fact the turbos are push through, only Hymee and myself use draw through.
Hymee's is a screw type and not condusive for passing fuel. It can, but it will not homonginize it with the air. Too much surface area to sheet the fuel on.
They do it on dragsters but efficincy is not the goal in a drag race. They like to burn up 7 gallons every quarter mile.
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 11:08 PM
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Wouldn't it work to also remove the drive belt and reset the ECU for purposes of emissions tests only?

CRH
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