Thank the Gods you came along! I've driven two RX8's, and came this close to buying an '05 Shinka. What a perfectly sorted chassis, with the best turn-in and balance you can get! So what's my beef? You guessed it - power. But, adding high-end/low torque power to a rotary by turbocharging just doesn't make sense (I had a modified '82 RX7, naturally aspirated). Where's my supercharger? Now I have found it. Tell you what - I'll give you a little time for R&D if you'll give me a little time to budget for your coming axial kit. Deal? Hey, I've got to buy the car first! Thanks again! I've added your website to my favorites.....

 

^^ Lol.

 

ummm....yeah.

 

We luvs our newbs!

 

Reflashing the ecu is already happening.
This is a beautiful system by a really great guy(a legend in a way)--but i am afraid that the complexity of the build(not the install), and the fact that even with a cobb unit (that will not solve all things) this kit will not happen for the mass market. Hell, i held out 3 yrs! I would love to have it but, I have come to realize that these cars are too individualized for a generic map to work well for them. Individual tuning is the key to make FI work properly on the renasis. Sure you can have all the factory sensors and the stft/ltft, barometic pressures etc etc, stuff but to still get the power that people want, imho, you have to have control of the parameters. Dont get me wrong--a flash will work, but it will not work as good as an individual tune. And since people when looking at a major mod such as FI will not want an "average." and the fact there will be a large learning curve with an axiel flow compressor, i say for all intents and purposes --unfortunately and with a tear in my eye i admitted to myself that this project is dead
i hope i am wrong.
olddragger

 

I strongly disagree. With a modern ecu (NOT the int-x by any stretch of the imagination...), you have temperature control, barometric control, and fuel trims actually referencing a WBO2 sensor to keep or get your car in tune.

...not to say any reasonable tune wouldn't have a margin of safety built in that some over anxious person who has a death wish for their engine couldn't get more power from an individual dyno tune

 

You can individually tune all the parameters in the ECU using the Cobb unit.

 

Maybe I'm missing something but I understood the post by olddragger to be talking about a generic flash. How did the Cobb unit come into play? Your causing me to go back and reread the Cobb forum cuz I don't remember them saying that all parameters will be available.

 

I think the issue with reflasing will come up when people need to change their fueling. Right now, nobody is attempting to use a reflash for more power than the stock fuel system can support. What happens when people need more fuel??

 

I assumed when we were talking about flashing for F/I we would be talking about Cobb. You sure wouldn't want to get a Racing Beat flash that is specifically setup for N/A and try to get that to run a F/I system. Maybe I'm missing something here?

And between the street tuner software, the upcomming advanced street tuner software and the pro tuner software you may not have control of *everything* but you have control of *everything you need or would matter*. Better?

 

With the Cobb software you can tell the AP what size injectors you are adding and it will adjust accordingly. At least this is the way it is for the scoobie community. I can't see it being any different for us.

 

Maybe someone who knows RP could ask him to reply to the rumors.

 

The reason he wants to wait for the AP is because its the best thing to use to reduce the complexity of pre/post install...

You get the AFSC+AP...and you get a base tune which according to the unspoken "plan"...Richard was to send his RX-8 with the AFSC up to Cobb so they could create a base map.

But if you do ANY FI...you should ALWAYS get it tuned...never rely on the base map to be what you should be running...but I digress...

So if you get the "kit"...you can also retune after install...because you will already have the tools needed to do it...

Again...the whole thing simply "makes sense"...which is why he has won this round with me for now...

Waitin on Cobb...

 

 

True. It didn't make boost until around 6K or so. It was up there somewhere. This can not be due to poor tuning as boost is based off of engine speed. There was nothing wrong with the ability of either ecu tried. They were just too pricey and didn't fit the "package" in a way he wanted. The Cobb solution won't make it work any better than the other ones did in regards to boost. Charles is correct. Put two and two together along with above information.

 

Cobb forums are down btw...

Due to the influx of RX-8 complaints...heh

 

... and this is why I'm ignoring the drama and speculation.

 

aha... as an engineer I can see /very/ costly mechanical solutions for this. that's the thing isn't it? that'd be a lot of trouble to fix... glad we're still waiting then instead of dealing with a lackluster product.

 

As a twinkie...I can see...another twinkie...

 

And it is Evil!


An Ceiling Cat sed im gonna pwnz all teh ppl An aminals what i has maded on teh urth; ppl An moo cows An creepy crawlyz An burdz ov teh skyz An burdz liek ostridges An stuf who cant flyz; cuz i so sry i maded them.

But Ceiling Cat liekd noah alot.

This is story about noah. noah wuz rightchus d00d, An liek mor rightchus then any1 els. noah hung out wif Ceiling Cat alot An lissend 2 tunez An played pokemons An stuff.. An sum tiems Ceiling Cat even letz him winz cuz he liekd him alot.

 

^^^And the longest streak in recent memory of staying on topic for this thread just ended.

 

There is no "on-topic" for this thread.
The subject is effectively vaporware and all of the relevant information about it was imparted 150 pages ago.

We've seen the device. We've seen it operate. We know, more or less, what it is capable of. Hell, I had it in my garage for a week - I know it exists.
However, its creator has not positioned himself to make it available to the masses. So, until he decides otherwise, its done. Nothing to see here.

 

Mac is officially the forum genius now.

 

Why can't someone just hire a bunch of strippers and take Richard on a lascivious night out on the town? It will work, trust me.

AFSC is back in business!

 

I think Phil gets dumber and dumber with every post...