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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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A few that were at SS9 have put the target price at around $4300.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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Great! Thanks for the update. As of now, my only other "high HP boost" option is a Greddy turbo which is offering a fairly small gain for a pretty high price. On a sidenote, anyone know about getting a third rotor installed for HP gain, or is that just a myth?
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by nynex
Great! Thanks for the update. As of now, my only other "high HP boost" option is a Greddy turbo which is offering a fairly small gain for a pretty high price. On a sidenote, anyone know about getting a third rotor installed for HP gain, or is that just a myth?
I know it's blasphemous, but I'm seriosly considering adding a couple of pistons to my rx8. 2 rotors and 2 pistons should give me the best of both worlds. You've got to figure out how to cut the pistons out at high rpm's since they won't go to 9k, but you get good low rpm torque.
--R.


(sorry I couldn't resist, but i did try.)
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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uh huh...I don't know if that was some sort of sarcastic shot at my post or not but the real important question in my mind is why you didn't answer my question. I was serious about the 3rd rotor deal. I had heard discussions on it a couple years ago in a non-street legal, drag-ready RX-8 using the Renesis w/ a 3rd rotor. Don't know if anyone had tried that, heard anything about it, or possibly had some links to the subject.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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a 3 rotor is a possiblity. Check out the Major Horsepower section and see some of the work the guys out in Purto Rico are doing. (HUGE rotor heads out there doing GREAT work with 3 rotors)
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by nynex
uh huh...I don't know if that was some sort of sarcastic shot at my post or not but the real important question in my mind is why you didn't answer my question. I was serious about the 3rd rotor deal. I had heard discussions on it a couple years ago in a non-street legal, drag-ready RX-8 using the Renesis w/ a 3rd rotor. Don't know if anyone had tried that, heard anything about it, or possibly had some links to the subject.
The Renesis engine can be removed completely and replaced with a 20B 3 rotor.
see -->https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/3-rotor-rx8-google-page-ranking-78088/
for example.
--R.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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how exactly would yougo about installing to pistons on a rotary? you would have to rebuild and fabricate the entire engine.. would you not? prolly be cheaper to just..you know.. buy the Sc?
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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I wonder if RP would consider taking deposits on his sc - maybe a few extra $ would hurry it up a bit .
nynex - wrong thread to be talking 3 rotor - start a new one if you really want answers .
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Skiptomylue
how exactly would yougo about installing to pistons on a rotary? you would have to rebuild and fabricate the entire engine.. would you not? prolly be cheaper to just..you know.. buy the Sc?
Not much more work than "adding" a third rotor to a Renesis. Adding pistons was a joke.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Skiptomylue
how exactly would yougo about installing to pistons on a rotary? you would have to rebuild and fabricate the entire engine.. would you not? prolly be cheaper to just..you know.. buy the Sc?
no problem at all . I reakon you could jam an electric motor in there as well - that way you would have :
9k red line
low down torque
Environment freindly

wow !!!!!!
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RexApex
Not much more work than "adding" a third rotor to a Renesis.
There is no 3 rotor Renesis.


And this is really getting off topic.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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yea and i bet my questions will get overlooked
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
I saw 275hp "easy" mentioned somewhere .
when i talked to them at seven stock they said it was going to be around 240 to the wheels. i have no doubt in my mind that after this kit will out preform the greddy in every category.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
nynex - wrong thread to be talking 3 rotor - start a new one if you really want answers .
4 things.
1) Thanks Jedi54 for an actual answer AND for letting me know that I WASN'T wrong in the 3 rotor thinking.
2) Red Devil, isn't that exactly what rgonza is doing to the Renesis?
3) Brettus, don't even tell me about off topic or whatever. I spent half a day reading over 150 pages of postings on this thread, MAYBE 50 of which were on the topic. You could even look at the last several posts...not on topic.
4) I won't post on this again unless it's necessary. So no need to get all in a hype about that.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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Ok RP
after years of suffering from PTSD (post traumatic stress syndrome) a honest dsm diagnosis after being blown off on the straight-a-ways(my case is still in the appeal stage for ssi)-----this is getting good. I hope to be the 1st in Georgia with this kit. I trust ya and thats why I am a buying. I like sc over turbo (just to clarify that I trust SOME others also).
couple of questions:
1- does your reflash turn the fans on a little earier? If not, can that be done?
2- does the strut bar have a master cylinder brace ?
3- does the reflash coordinate with a high flow cat or does it work equally well with the stock cat?
4- does it come with an autographed picture of you? with thumbprints?
5- fuel delivery requirements--stock system ok or do you recommend any upgrades?
6- I assume that running a pre mix would not matter--but may as well ask the expert.
7- where do I send my $10 down payment or would you rather have a really good gallon of family produced legal Georgia Moonshine ? Charder type, then aged and stained through applecores. Smoothhhhhhh. Make you hug your Momma.
To repeat an earier suggestion--an AFSC badge for the trunk area would be really good. It would also look good when an rx8 so equipped makes Grassroots or Modified Mag.
rotor on dude
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Don't overlook these questions, please. I'd hate for them to not get answered on my account.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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A few pages back RP said 275 . I hope its more than 240 !
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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[QUOTE=nynex]4 things.

3) Brettus, don't even tell me about off topic or whatever. I spent half a day reading over 150 pages of postings on this thread, MAYBE 50 of which were on the topic. You could even look at the last several posts...not on topic.
[QUOTE]

true - but I did say "if you really want answers"
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by nynex
4 things.
1) Thanks Jedi54 for an actual answer AND for letting me know that I WASN'T wrong in the 3 rotor thinking.
2) Red Devil, isn't that exactly what rgonza is doing to the Renesis?
3) Brettus, don't even tell me about off topic or whatever. I spent half a day reading over 150 pages of postings on this thread, MAYBE 50 of which were on the topic. You could even look at the last several posts...not on topic.
4) I won't post on this again unless it's necessary. So no need to get all in a hype about that.
Don't feel unwelcome just because someone jokes around with you.

I suppose adding an AFSC could be considered installing 4 more rotors, if you can call a turbine stage a rotor.
-R.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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It's just like it came from the factory that way, nothing will act strange.
Perfect, nice to see someone doing things correctly. Is it worth doing RB's oil metering update with the AFSC?

If this gets me to about 275 at the wheels and everything functions like stock then it's probably next years upgrade. I already got approval from the wife as long as I stay under what I spent on wheels/tires ($6k). With the cost of the AFSC, gauges, and some custom paint work on the AFSC I should be right there.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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Would it be possible to have the "street" and "track" modes of ECU flash switchable?

If this has been answered already, you can delete this post and burn my soul with your hatred
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 01:36 AM
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Yes, that's his plan for now.
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by olddragger
7- where do I send my $10 down payment or would you rather have a really good gallon of family produced legal Georgia Moonshine ? Charder type, then aged and stained through applecores. Smoothhhhhhh. Make you hug your Momma.
olddragger... that sounds yummy!
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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Answers for Olddragger:

1. yes
2. no but i may make that as a seperate part
3. it works
4. The only ones who want that are the Feds
5. stock is OK but if you run the track a better pump would be wise
6. do as you like
7. nice offer, sounds good but I'm stuck on french alcohol
(I like french food and woman but Italian cars and their food too.)
You can get a bad meal in France but not in Italy
That might be why the Italians get fatter.
I was there (Italy) a few years ago for three days and gained 6 lbs. I had to take a side trip on the way home to England to loose it. True story.
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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I combined RP and OD's post so you do not have to flip back and forth to know what the heck he is answering


Originally Posted by olddragger
Ok RP
after years of suffering from PTSD (post traumatic stress syndrome) a honest dsm diagnosis after being blown off on the straight-a-ways(my case is still in the appeal stage for ssi)-----this is getting good. I hope to be the 1st in Georgia with this kit. I trust ya and thats why I am a buying. I like sc over turbo (just to clarify that I trust SOME others also).
couple of questions:
1- does your reflash turn the fans on a little earier? If not, can that be done?
1. yes

2- does the strut bar have a master cylinder brace ?
2. no but i may make that as a seperate part

3- does the reflash coordinate with a high flow cat or does it work equally well with the stock cat?
3. it works

4- does it come with an autographed picture of you? with thumbprints?
4. The only ones who want that are the Feds

5- fuel delivery requirements--stock system ok or do you recommend any upgrades?
5. stock is OK but if you run the track a better pump would be wise

6- I assume that running a pre mix would not matter--but may as well ask the expert.
6. do as you like


7- where do I send my $10 down payment or would you rather have a really good gallon of family produced legal Georgia Moonshine ? Charder type, then aged and stained through applecores. Smoothhhhhhh. Make you hug your Momma.
To repeat an earier suggestion--an AFSC badge for the trunk area would be really good. It would also look good when an rx8 so equipped makes Grassroots or Modified Mag.

7. nice offer, sounds good but I'm stuck on french alcohol
(I like french food and woman but Italian cars and their food too.)
You can get a bad meal in France but not in Italy
That might be why the Italians get fatter.
I was there (Italy) a few years ago for three days and gained 6 lbs. I had to take a side trip on the way home to England to loose it. True story.
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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7. nice offer, sounds good but I'm stuck on french alcohol
so am i pretty high in the queue?????

keep up the good work richard...

beers
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