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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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Which K&N do you have? The idle roughness can be fixed by installing at least one of the original 2 intake screens around the MAF.
I did not know there was a choice. I bought the very first one I could get, my speed shop pre ordered it before K&N released it, so it would be the first one

when I installed the K&N at first there was only noise, no noticable improvement.

When I removed the duct work from in front of the bulkhead I got about 1-2 mph at the end of my freeway on ramp I use for testing.

I know, not very scientific, but it works for me. I use it for both my RX-8 and my El-Camino. Problem is I have run out of speedometer on the elky, so I have to go by engine RPM which is harder for me to gauge.
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 11:45 AM
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The first K&N intakes had idle issues. You need to find a way to integrate a stock screen from the original setup back into the system before the MAF. This should help.
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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I just use a K&N Panel filter.
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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if they would of made the front of the intake filter material insted of carbon plastic it would have been so much better or even a replacement for that top, kind of what the new one is. so air from the front and the sides would rush in, and that would probably be best for this AFSC if it fit
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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Well guys,

Less than four weeks for the AFSC show at SS9!!!

...

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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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Not the only thing on show
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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hello richard- i see you hiding! any news ? its only a couple weeks now til 7stock.
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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I'm not hiding, I'm under my desk.
We're working on lot's of stuff just nothing final enough for release.
We still plan on showing all at 7-Stock.
Even a supprise visitor with goodies in tow.
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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come on richard....give me the skinny on it!!!
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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Is it who I think it is?
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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You wanna spoil all my fun?
I mean how many cheap thrills does a guy get these days?
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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I know its the Hymster from Downunder With Blonde wig his Kaki Shirt and Shorts a rein carnation of Steve Erwin By Crickey trying to get a free entry to the US , Peddling his Twin Screw Supercharger and a few other goodies

Michael
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 11:32 AM
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Only the Limies get British humor. Don't try it on the Australia thread.
In fact I'd like you to delet it from mine, if you don't mind.
No offence, I love the British and some of the best times of my life were spent there. It's just a little to soon for this though.
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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jokes should be allowed about anything and at anytime...however tact should also be shown.

anyway deleted as requested, although i thought it was a goodun....

BTW Aussies above anyone can joke about anything and hold nothing sacred!!! Its one of their best qualities.....
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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Thank you and yes I know the Aussies can handle humor about most things, in fact they are great at it. Just in talking to a couple of our resident Oz folk these past couple of weeks I can tell you they are very sensitive to this one topic and grieve on a national scale.

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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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Don't tell me he posted a blaphemious post regarding Peter Brock?? Crikey!

Cheers,
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 11:11 PM
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No, but he died the same week.
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 05:03 AM
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Ouch.. Bad week for Australia then...

My sympathies go to all affected by the double loss.
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
Thank you and yes I know the Aussies can handle humor about most things, in fact they are great at it. Just in talking to a couple of our resident Oz folk these past couple of weeks I can tell you they are very sensitive to this one topic and grieve on a national scale.
oh so true, just the other day at the uni's comedy club there was an aussie comedian who was absolutely brilliant!! (tho being 7ft tall and built like a brik outhouse probably helped tho )
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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Richard,
Back to some wing talk - what is the reason that an axial flow compressor has many small wings per rotor as opposed to fewer (and larger) wings?
And the reason why you have a relatively narrow (ring shaped) opening is because you want to make sure that the individual 'wings' deal with the same air speed (inner and outer diameter), right? Does the air speed need to be in a relatively narrow range in order for the 'wings' to work properly?
Can you recommed any books about this topic? (Just for curiosity)
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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It's the same concept that most modern gas turbines use. I would look up text books on jet engine propulsion to get an understanding of the aerodynamics involved. There are some good AIAA (American Institute of Aeronautics and Aerospace) books I used back in undergrad that were helpful.

Can't wait to see your finished product Richard!!
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 03:48 AM
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Hi guys. FIrst of all, apologies for posting on an RX8 board. i'm actually an S2000 owner (and so fellow lover of 9,000 revs ) but accordingly I've been lurking on this thread for far too long, hoping that you RX8 boys get Richard's Axial Supercharger soon so that Richard can focus on developing it for the S2000!

However, things have now come to a head - a British group buy for another well established S2000 supercharger is closing next Sunday and so I have to decide whether to wait for the Axial SC. Just two questions Richard (but admittedly they are difficult):

(a) How long do you envisage it taking before you will have developed and be able to sell the Axial SC for the S2000?

(b) will it be available from the date (if at all) for a RHD car?

Right, back to RX8 chat - we don't see many of them in the UK due to the price of petrol and the RX8's thirst I like many of its design cues though (particularly the front end, reminds me of another car ).

Craig
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 04:35 AM
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Some of the kits I have seen on the S2000 have me turning my head as they go by thinking I may have just seen an 8 but then realize it is the S2000. Love the car just needed extra passenger seating for functionality...

First thing I noticed when I purchased my Axial Flow Shift Kit was he offered a S2000 shift kit also.

Remember hearing a story of how there was little faith in improving the S2000 shifter... till it was tested.
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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I think there is a mix of opinions on the Axial shortshifter - some owners are really happy with whilst a few owners are not happy with the extra vibrations involved which seems to come "hand in hand" with the better "feel" you get with it. I've nearly bought one myself, but hesitated due to a few mixed reports.
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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RP when you get done with 7-stock I need to get in contact with you
I have come up with an idea that I perceive may work to control a higher pressure version of your AFSC.

There is a patent search on going right now to see if anyone else is using something similar in a similar way. Initial very broad searches have turned up something similar in industry for larger axial flow compressors but nothing as it pertains to the automotive industry.


Advantages of a higher boost profile in the lower RMP ranges while controlling upper rpm pressures to prevent over pressurizing the engine.

Then device was hinted at over in the S2ki AFSC forum by a fellow individual that is now handling my patent searches. It was hinted at before we decided to pursue the possible device. So he may have let the cat out of the bag to early.
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