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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 06:51 AM
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and unlike the interceptor, if Richard could work with them to get a base map there is no need to end user tuning as the fuel trims will adjust the afr to what it should be all by itself - just like it does from Mazda

... and for what, 1/4 the cost of the interceptor?
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 08:32 AM
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and 1 less component to break
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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right - it's about 600 or 700 for the flash uploader and another 200 for the software if you wanted to make changes. We've discussed this before, several months ago he was saying he was hoping for working prototype by the end of the year, so it's still a ways off. But it's not vaporware since he has units working for several cars already.

At any rate, we're going off topic in this SC thread..
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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Personally I'd love to just flash the ecu and be done instead of trying to find a local shop that even knows what a rotary is and then having them try and tune it without blowing up the car. I don't have a problem forgoing a few hp and using a standard map if it save me buying a new engine with the SC.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 08:47 AM
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Saw RP on the vette site promoting the Axial. Can't wait to see the final product.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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^^^ no link? =(
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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Busted! I don't know about building a whole new size blower for them, but I did just order a new Vette for "company use"


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1490306

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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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Everytime I try to plan out mods on my car, I keep putting it off in hopes that this SC will be out soon. In fact, I can't make up my mind on my suspension because I can't decide if I want to spend the money and get what I realy want or save some money for the SC and get something less expensive.

I do love the idea of a super charger. Give me more power on the bottom.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Since the ideal compression ratio for FI is around 8:1, is there anything like a revised rotor for lower compression? Just a thought and maybe someone else has asked the question before. I have no idea what it would take to R&D something like that and what it would take to revise the PCM but with lower comp. you could pump up the volume.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by hoosier
Since the ideal compression ratio for FI is around 8:1, is there anything like a revised rotor for lower compression? Just a thought and maybe someone else has asked the question before. I have no idea what it would take to R&D something like that and what it would take to revise the PCM but with lower comp. you could pump up the volume.
There are no lower compression rotors available for the Renesis at this time and the likelihood of someone providing them outside of Mazda is about 0. Cost prohibitive doesn't begin to describe it.

Paul.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
Busted! I don't know about building a whole new size blower for them, but I did just order a new Vette for "company use"


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1490306

SASSY!!!

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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mazmart
There are no lower compression rotors available for the Renesis at this time and the likelihood of someone providing them outside of Mazda is about 0. Cost prohibitive doesn't begin to describe it.

Paul.
heads up.

going on in miami.

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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 11:30 PM
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Which pic is this? You have to be registered to view it.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:54 AM
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Same pic as post 3130 in this thread page 209.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:57 AM
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The 'vette guys don't have a 263 page Axialflow SC thread yet. So I think we are safe.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by swoope
heads up.

going on in miami.

beers
Who in Miami is making rotors or are you saying they have found some way to mildly reduce the compression ratio?
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 01:02 AM
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give me a bit on this... i was shocked..

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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
Busted! I don't know about building a whole new size blower for them, but I did just order a new Vette for "company use"


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1490306

Could you plz get the RX-8 and the S2000 versions done first......
al lot of us have been waiting a long time for this to get done.

but I got to admit the Corvette market probably has a better profit potential initially than the RX-8/S2000/import scene.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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yeah you can charge them double for the same thing
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Since the ideal compression ratio for FI is around 8:1, is there anything like a revised rotor for lower compression? Just a thought and maybe someone else has asked the question before. I have no idea what it would take to R&D something like that and what it would take to revise the PCM but with lower comp. you could pump up the volume.
As long as the intake charge is cold enough, there's no reason to reduce compression ratio. If I was worried about detonation, I would add an intercooler and/or use water injection, before working on the compression ratio.
If one were to use a turbocharger, one can argue that with a lower compression ratio there's more enthalpy (pressure) left to run the turbine and thus the turbocharger itself can produce more power (shuffle more air). But this is not a turbocharger application.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by deppenma
Could you plz get the RX-8 and the S2000 versions done first......
al lot of us have been waiting a long time for this to get done.

but I got to admit the Corvette market probably has a better profit potential initially than the RX-8/S2000/import scene.

The RX8 sells well in Japan US and Europe, the vette only in america....

so the RX8 sc should do well!
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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good point California Style
I was only thinking about the American market
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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How do you go back numerous pages without having to hit the arrow button over and over again?
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