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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by rotorocks
Hi though I am new to the forums as a member, but I have had my 8 for over a year, and followed this tread for just as long, so I believe I can say this:
If you had paid attention, on this thread or anywhere else, people normally don't discuss price tags openly. Why? Possibly there is a reason for that. I don't know, but whatever it is, please take this sort of questions to Richard directly. I am sure he'll be more than happy to provide you with the price quote and elaborate on the details of it. He did so with me and it didn't even take more than a couple of hours to get a reply from him via email.

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Prices aren't posted because unless you're a forum vendor, or you're posting in one of our for sale sections, you're not allowed to advertise. Posting a subject about a product in development is fine, but once you post a price tag, it becomes an advertisement. That's why.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Ajax
Prices aren't posted because unless you're a forum vendor, or you're posting in one of our for sale sections, you're not allowed to advertise. Posting a subject about a product in development is fine, but once you post a price tag, it becomes an advertisement. That's why.
Thank u. makes sense & good to kno 4 fut. ref. i just figured it 2 b part of the discussion and input needed for a product in development. yes i would b interested in buying 1 but im not fishing 4 prices, or "tag," that badly; more concerned with helping out with input as a potential buyer w/ real world scenarios like i said with my comment of not willing 2 buy at the 1/4 of the price of the car.

PS. 2 the preceding post: no BS here either. and as 4 the physics and understanding of the car, im an aerospace engineering major. hence: "my love for jets, and love for my 8." didnt buy this car on a whim as u seem to think
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 07:05 AM
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I vote RP gets hooked up with Cobb Tuning as it seems like they are getting their $700 AccessPort reflashing hardware to work on our cars

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=266
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by rg
It doesn't spin due to heat at all. It's only airflow.
However, airflow is a form of heat. Heat is a process, associated with the transfer of energy.
Heat: A form of energy associated with the motion of atoms or molecules and capable of being transmitted through solid and fluid media by conduction, through fluid media by convection, and through empty space by radiation.
and convection is a form of airflow.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by r0tor
I vote RP gets hooked up with Cobb Tuning as it seems like they are getting their $700 AccessPort reflashing hardware to work on our cars

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=266
I was taking a look at their website yesterday, would be nice if someone like them had a solution for us.

http://www.cobbtuning.com/
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 10:18 AM
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However, airflow is a form of heat. Heat is a process, associated with the transfer of energy.
If you want to get absolutely beady eyes, cokebottle glasses, nerdy, underwear up your *** tightwad technical (I mean that in a nice way! Why do people always try to get down to the quantum level to win frugal arguments from a functionality standpoint?) then technically you can have no movement without heat as we know absolute zero is impossible to hit because atoms are always moving. However for the mere limited example we are using with a turbo, it's the airflow that does the work. The point is that the exhaust doesn't have to be "hot" to make a turbo work which is why saying the engine's heat spins the turbo is a worthless argument. It can be 20 degree air and the turbo would still spool. Don't get technical and claim that 20 degree air is actually hotter air than absolute zero which means it contains heat. That's understood. Frame of reference here. The airflow from the exhaust is what does the work. You could get the exact same amount of power out of an engine with a turbo regardless of what the exhaust temps are at the turbo. It doesn't matter if they are at 16 degrees or 1600 degrees. A turbo is not a free device utilizing only waste as many people claim. It is a restriction on the engine which creates many other problems. A peltier device wrapped around the hot exhaust pipes would be a form of using heat to recover wasted energy. I suppose then someone would claim that we wouldn't have any appreciable heat in the pipe to recover if there wasn't any hot exhaust flow through it.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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I sent a PM telling him I would Drive to Utah to help out if there are no other takers

Originally Posted by Red Devil
I was taking a look at their website yesterday, would be nice if someone like them had a solution for us.

http://www.cobbtuning.com/
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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If I was closer, I would be willing to part with my car for a few days to get an actual flash product underway.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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Richard Im in for one of these. Please make it happen!!

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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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sorry, he's waiting on me. my gf's kid fell off a quad earlier this week and fractured his skull. i've been at the hospital a lot lately.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by patrick_andraste
I sent a PM telling him I would Drive to Utah to help out if there are no other takers
thank god... i'd do it myself if it wasn't a 2 day trip 1 way
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by guitarjunkie28
sorry, he's waiting on me. my gf's kid fell off a quad earlier this week and fractured his skull. i've been at the hospital a lot lately.
Wow man, no need to be sorry.

Best wishes to your gf's son.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Devil
I was taking a look at their website yesterday, would be nice if someone like them had a solution for us.

http://www.cobbtuning.com/
They are pretty raved about on the Legacy GT and Imprezza boards, and from the looks of the info on their site... this is definitely what we've all been waiting for. i really hope that this solution is able to make it to market...
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 12:53 AM
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Ok, I'll toss my two cents into the heat vs. movement debate. The turbo definitely cannot spool without movement, I don't see how it could otherwise. BUT, heat and movement are not independent of course. The hotter the exhaust is, the greater the volume of exhaust produced, and since the volume of exhaust pipe is fixed, this means that exhaust velocity is greater, which means the turbo spools more.

Of course, RG must know all this, but I wanted to take advantage of the opportunity
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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why is everbody talking about turbos this is an AFSC thread
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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Wow 247.000 readers and still no Super Charger.

But we are almost there. Just a little more patient..
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 11:33 PM
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You know what Razz1, I'm going to take your deposit here in just a couple of weeks.

And Razz, you don't even have an AxialFlow shifter yet.

Last edited by Richard Paul; Jun 16, 2006 at 11:40 PM.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 12:20 AM
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AF will put a new whole new meaning to the "super" of supercharger. Will bare 5-stage blowers be released too, I hope ?
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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A few of us made a trip to Richards place to get the short shifter installed/pick up and to look at his project. Unfortunatly I neglected to take pics of the supercharger The product is looking great though just needs an appropriate EMS to fit its nature.









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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 10:53 PM
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Well after seeing those pictures it tells me that chrome wheels are in my future.
All the other cars look blank.
How come no one took any pictures of the new shop or did they?

Looks like everyone has some kind of exhaust though.

Last edited by Richard Paul; Jun 25, 2006 at 10:40 PM.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 10:56 PM
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Ah crap RP, I wasn't sure if you wanted us taking pictures of the inside of the shop.
Chrome rims would look nice on your car though.

Thanks again Richard for letting us invade your shop for the morning. That was GREAT of you.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
You know what Razz1, I'm going to take your deposit here in just a couple of weeks.

And Razz, you don't even have an AxialFlow shifter yet.
Yep, still need to make it out to your place.

But, I got the Hot new suspension system so I can keep it at full throttle around the corners at the track with your SC!

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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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alright guys, dramafest '06 is over and i'll be picking up the car tonight. if i can't sleep, i'll tune it up and slap it on the dyno tomorrow. otherwise, expect something by the end of the week.
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Didn't I read that a couple weeks ago

Do a bang up job (on the controller, not the fenders).
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 04:01 AM
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i think you missed what happened.
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