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Old 12-03-2010, 08:32 PM
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Anyone running a Big turbo on alcohol ?

I always wondered what the side port RX8 would do with a GT45 or GT55 like the old school drag race guys.. I am going to use a rennesis short block with the stock side port in a 1st gen turbo alky car...looking forward to seeing what the temps are like once we push 45lbs and above.

I post any updates on this post.. ..

some links to my type of rotary powered cars..
http://www.jrspeed.com/
http://www.zoommagazine.com.au/
http://wickedphotoracing.com/
http://www.grs-motorsports.com/
http://www.jrspeed.com/images/torres.png
http://wljphotography.com/index.html
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good luck with that
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I think you bought an 8 for the wrong season. 8's were not built for drag racing, instead they were meant for cornering and road racing, hence the lack of top end power. But, with enough money and effort I suppose anything is possible. I would have started with an rx-7 though if I were you. Good Luck.
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Originally Posted by Mackmazda View Post
I always wondered what the side port RX8 would do with a GT45 or GT55 like the old school drag race guys.. I am going to use a rennesis short block with the stock side port in a 1st gen turbo alky car...looking forward to seeing what the temps are like once we push 45lbs and above.

I post any updates on this post.. ..

some links to my type of rotary powered cars..
http://www.jrspeed.com/
http://www.zoommagazine.com.au/
http://wickedphotoracing.com/
http://www.grs-motorsports.com/
http://www.jrspeed.com/images/torres.png
http://wljphotography.com/index.html

this may be of interest to you ...
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/mazdatrix-turbo-renesis-205790/
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Originally Posted by Chrishoky View Post
I think you bought an 8 for the wrong season. 8's were not built for drag racing, instead they were meant for cornering and road racing, hence the lack of top end power. But, with enough money and effort I suppose anything is possible. I would have started with an rx-7 though if I were you. Good Luck.
Bro..I am going to try the renesis shortblock over the 12a and 13Bs that i am used to. my intentions are to use my current 13B drag setup on a rx8 shortblock.
I am going to first clean up the ports and strengthen the short-block with oversize tention bolts from the guys at Goopy Performance
http://www.goopyperformance.com/content/engine-bolts

I may go with external oiling just in case the front iron cracks.
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the appropriate response to the above is found here: https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...3&postcount=48

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Goopy? That was the best name available? All I had to see on their site was the claim that their oversized tension bolts were a better alternative to dowel pinning. Um, actually no it's not. Those won't really do anything to strengthen the engine at all as dowel pins are limiting movement in an entirely different plane. I wouldn't use anything from a company that claims that. Keep in mind using studs would be better than using bolts anyways so if you were going to replace the bolts with something stronger, use studs and not larger bolts. That's a waste of time.
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Have seen a couple of vendors selling oversized bolts with similar claims to gloopy .........
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you are in for a lesson, a Renesis is not a 13B

be sure to copy Rotary Inspired on your results because is also under the same mistaken impression per his comments in the GT3582R thread ....
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Originally Posted by paulmasoner View Post
the appropriate response to the above is found here: https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...3&postcount=48
Bro i dont know what rock you have been living under but this company is big in the drag racing scene in the east coast, florida and puerto rico..i have seen tons of cars running their stuff so i dont know where you would come up with this type of response.. gound this on google http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYemBRtGP9U
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you are in for a lesson, a Renesis is not a 13B

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I know the exhaust ports are in a different orientation..
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Originally Posted by Mackmazda View Post
Bro i dont know what rock you have been living under but this company is big in the drag racing scene in the east coast, florida and puerto rico..i have seen tons of cars running their stuff so i dont know where you would come up with this type of response.. gound this on google
considering the quote, you'd be more direct in directing your comments to RotaryGod. If he would acknowledge and have any response, it'd be interesting to see what he had to say to you

I know the exhaust ports are in a different orientation..
and if you think thats the difference between the motors, you have a lot to learn
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anyway, we dont wanna rain on any parades, so ignore us.

go out and build this monster, and let us know how it does
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Dudes, this guy is serious!

Didn't you SEE the link to wickedphotoracing.com?!??!!11?
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Dudes, this guy is serious!

Didn't you SEE the link to wickedphotoracing.com?!??!!11?
sorry, i missed it. must have been my head still spinning from the link he provided where I saw a 1) feeler gauge 2) SS wire brush 3) pair of files.... being sold for $75
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this may be of interest to you ...
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=205790
hey thanks for the link..i will watch and see what the boys at MT are able to pull off, but to be honest with you I am looking to push the renesis to the 800-900hp range.
Keeping the exhaust side of the rotor housing cool will be the challenge.
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theres a reason no one here is doing the things your talking about.

you arent the first ones to come here talking like this. your about the 300th. all of whom were prior 13B monster enginer builder types. what you've done so far, talk, is about a dime a dozen. so I hope you understand why we all laugh at you when you just come waltzing in talking about 800+hp renesis motors, when no one has even been within 300 or so of that number.

secondly, no one here in their right mind would dare tell you to us an AccessPort on a project like you're referring to. And if that's REALLY what you took away from the other discussion, then I politely question your intelligence to build even a lego car

at this point, no one here will take either of you seriously unless you actually DO something
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^ Well put.
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Originally Posted by paulmasoner View Post
theres a reason no one here is doing the things your talking about.

you arent the first ones to come here talking like this. your about the 300th. all of whom were prior 13B monster enginer builder types. what you've done so far, talk, is about a dime a dozen. so I hope you understand why we all laugh at you when you just come waltzing in talking about 800+hp renesis motors, when no one has even been within 300 or so of that number.

secondly, no one here in their right mind would dare tell you to us an AccessPort on a project like you're referring to. And if that's REALLY what you took away from the other discussion, then I politely question your intelligence to build even a lego car

at this point, no one here will take either of you seriously unless you actually DO something
Hey paul don't waste his time, he knows everything about rotaries and tunes.
We, for sure, don't know ****. Who cares if we install motec, bosch or magneti marelli ecus on each and every race car we build but then praise the accessPORT for the street driven cars
I wish i was dumb at times, i could read such posts thinking "omg he is so badass!"
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wasnt trying to be an E-thug. or even offensive. Was simply trying convey to you why you have been, and will be responded to the way you have seen. Its just the way it is.

Helpful information is availible by the truck load all over this forum. But seeing as how no one has come within at least 300hp of the goals mentioned above... ummmm, no one here is gonna be able to help you are they? If they could, it'd probably mean someone has been there and done that.
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Thanks for calling me a clown and i'm sorry you don't appreciate the love that bonds Paul and me ROFL!
Talking about ecus here is pointless, for that goals a standalone is mandatory so that's a moot point.
The problem with the renesis is the inherent limit of the side exhaust ports (Unless you do it la mazdatrix). Just see how much they can flow and match a turbo to that, there lays your limit.
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Originally Posted by Rotary Inspired View Post
I am not a follower and never will be. I will look for new ways to accomplish my goals based on the knowledge I have obtained in the past. That may or may not conflict w/ the ways on this board.

It seems to me if anyone conflicts they must be stupid on here. That is one of the reasons less things are shared on here than you realize.
Trust me, if it could have been done, it would have been done already in the last 7 years. It's not like the Renny is new.

I understand your optimism, I was turboing (sic) Honda's back when they said we would never break 11's in the 1/4 mile in a DOHC Honda and by the time I left the Honda scene, people were in the 10's naturally aspirated and soem were/are making over 700HP on a blown SOHC Honda motor.
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It seems to me if anyone conflicts they must be stupid on here. That is one of the reasons less things are shared on here than you realize.
, Hate to say it but this is sort of true to some extent..... I can think of a few people nearby who don't like to share anything with forums. I know of a 450whp renesis but his rebuilds are sooner than mine....

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I don't know of anyone on here who has seriously attempted a Renesis E85 (that's what you meant right) build on this forum. It's mostly uncharted territory around here, although it's pretty much *yawn* for Evo/STi.

Just make sure you have enough of a fuel system.
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I don't know of anyone on here who has seriously attempted a Renesis E85 .
Chris from Esmeril was doing it . IIRC he was in the 500 region before having a mishap on the dyno ...
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Oh and that 450whp was using the Esmeril kit, atleast thats what I was told.

Where is Chris by the way? I thought I read in one of his threads that driving at those power levels (500whp) was unreliable on the renesis . Then again 500whp is not the most reliable setup for most "street" driven vehicles nor would it be needed for everyday use...
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