WingleBeast

to get down to basics, do i need both? I plan on getting the GReddy turbo kit, and i know i can adjust maps on the e-manage that comes with it, so do i still need the AcessPort? Will e-manage turn off the speed limeter?

any other conflicts i have missed? im just not sure how adjusting the stock maps would help if i can just overwrite them with the e-manage anyway. If i do get both and i need to fix an issue, what is better to adjust, the ECU with the acessport or the piggyback e-manage maps.

thanks

mysql

get the ap. forget about emanage.

WingleBeast

so i can run a turbo without the e-manage? that would be convenient, but i would have to get accurate fuel and ignition maps from somewhere

and probably a boost controller. right?

Jasonawojo

iTrader: (2)

Yes, the AccessPort with the proper map makes the eManage unneeded as it builds the needed fuel and such into your PCM map rather then you needing a separate computer to modify the tune. The nice thing about buying an AP through MazdaManiac is that he will provide you with working maps for your setup for free, as part of you purchasing the unit through him.

WingleBeast

im new to the boards, and i already love all of you.

but serious, now the hard question, can i buy the turbo kit without the manage? or am i just going to have to e-bay it after i buy the kit. and if i ebay it i have to unlock it so others can use it right....

such a small question gets so complicated

and also, is a boost controller compleately nessicery for a system without the e-manage, or can that be set manually through the wastegate without buying a controller. And if i were to buy a controller would i need 2 different maps for 2 different boost settings?

mysql

the proper answer is to buy the BHR turbo kit, you get the AP, and you get a much more powerful GT3071R turbo, plus upgraded fuel injectors, cold air intake, upgraded couplers, etc.

legendkurado

+1 on the bhr

Jedi54

iTrader: (7)

Black Halo Racing turbo is SOOOOOOOO much superior to the stock greddy. (Greddy has stopped making their turbo setup)

+1 on BHR turbo + AP. You'll love the combo, just look at Mysql's pics / videos.

mysql

greddy stopped making their kit?

Jedi54

iTrader: (7)

I thought I heard Ray mention it. I could be wrong...

MazdaManiac

iTrader: (3)

They are talking about another production run, but they are gone for the moment unless you can find one in new/old stock.

WingleBeast

is the BHR turbo basically the same as [greddy kit + MM upgrade + cobb accessport]

mysql

wow. So they're giving up and will just be making manifolds for you guys? Sounds like they can see a good thing coming.

Floyd

Basicly yes except they have contracted Greddy to alter their piping to BHR's specs so no fabrication is required by MM or the end user.

WingleBeast

and last but not least, if i get the BHR setup or the greddy with the MM upgrade, the site claims more HP is available (which i believe with a 3071R) what would all be nessicerry to push it up higher? I know you would need

bigger injectors
coil upgrade
fuel pump
exhaust

not counting wear and tear items (axels, differentals or tansmission) what elts would be nessicerry to up the boost?

Jedi54

iTrader: (7)

if you're going for more then 300-330 that should be achievable with the kit, you'll probably want a fuel pump and DEFINITELY upgraded coils. (get those from BHR as well) Starting to see the pattern? BHR = 1 stop shopping.
as for exhaust: get rid of the stock catalytic and a better flowing exhaust.

WingleBeast

dont worry a full length turbo exhuast has been on the shopping list for a long time

Razz1

E manage = piggy back

AP = full control

tajabaho1

Don't listen to Razz, he's kinda coo coo ever since he got the AP.........

btw, I wonder whether the AP can work with the E-manage

since i already have an EMU and still want to run nitrous with a turbo

and yes, no one can stop me from inevitably blowing up into a pile of scrap/organic matter