500whp Mark; has anybody reached it?
11-17-2007, 07:14 PM
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500whp Mark; has anybody reached it?
Just wondering, has anyboy been able to reach the 500whp mark with the 13b-MSP yet?? I dont remember hearing anything about it, nor can I find any info about one. Just kinda of wondering why we haven't been able to hit it yet... any thoughts anyone??
11-17-2007, 09:23 PM
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I know this is going to create a million questions, doubts and skepticism but I will not go into it any further. All I will say is that I wasn't the one that accomplished this therefore I am not in the position to talk about it. If the person that I am talking about reads this and wants to talk about it then they can....there is a reason the person opted not to post it....he didn't feel like having to deal with everyones bashing when he knew he had accomplished it and didn't feel the need to prove anything to anyone.
The limitations on the renesis are clear, high compression(although not extremely high and can be dealt with using good engine management), ignition system(too weak) and ECU problems(like the car closing the Throttle halfway though a dyno run because it felt like it....oh wait....thats what happened to me
). If you can fix/bypass these three things you can get really far.My intention with this post is not to create heat or commotion, I am just answering the question from where I stand.
Chris
11-17-2007, 09:46 PM
#5
There exists no evidence which states that it has been done...
There exists also no concrete evidence that it cannot be done...
Currently spark blowout is the biggest issue...but some people apparently have interesting workarounds...
Everyone is still waiting for Esmeril to post an updated dyno as well...
11-17-2007, 11:45 PM
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you know ive been saying that since like 2k3 over and over and no one ever believes me- yet when you or fred say it its like freaking gospel
no respect i tell you no respect at all
11-17-2007, 11:50 PM
#10
I've been saying the same thing for a while too...but whatevs you know...
11-17-2007, 11:51 PM
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11-18-2007, 04:13 PM
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The answer is yes. The number was actually in the upper 500whp using c-16 and 30 plus psi(yes it had a custom metal upper intake manifold, ignition, mechanically controlled APV/SSV system and a custom return fuel system complete with two huge bosch pumps).
I know this is going to create a million questions, doubts and skepticism but I will not go into it any further. All I will say is that I wasn't the one that accomplished this therefore I am not in the position to talk about it. If the person that I am talking about reads this and wants to talk about it then they can....there is a reason the person opted not to post it....he didn't feel like having to deal with everyones bashing when he knew he had accomplished it and didn't feel the need to prove anything to anyone.
The limitations on the renesis are clear, high compression(although not extremely high and can be dealt with using good engine management), ignition system(too weak) and ECU problems(like the car closing the Throttle halfway though a dyno run because it felt like it....oh wait....thats what happened to me ). If you can fix/bypass these three things you can get really far.
My intention with this post is not to create heat or commotion, I am just answering the question from where I stand.
Chris
I know this is going to create a million questions, doubts and skepticism but I will not go into it any further. All I will say is that I wasn't the one that accomplished this therefore I am not in the position to talk about it. If the person that I am talking about reads this and wants to talk about it then they can....there is a reason the person opted not to post it....he didn't feel like having to deal with everyones bashing when he knew he had accomplished it and didn't feel the need to prove anything to anyone.
The limitations on the renesis are clear, high compression(although not extremely high and can be dealt with using good engine management), ignition system(too weak) and ECU problems(like the car closing the Throttle halfway though a dyno run because it felt like it....oh wait....thats what happened to me
). If you can fix/bypass these three things you can get really far.My intention with this post is not to create heat or commotion, I am just answering the question from where I stand.
Chris
11-18-2007, 09:11 PM
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The answer is yes. The number was actually in the upper 500whp using c-16 and 30 plus psi(yes it had a custom metal upper intake manifold, ignition, mechanically controlled APV/SSV system and a custom return fuel system complete with two huge bosch pumps).
I know this is going to create a million questions, doubts and skepticism but I will not go into it any further. All I will say is that I wasn't the one that accomplished this therefore I am not in the position to talk about it. If the person that I am talking about reads this and wants to talk about it then they can....there is a reason the person opted not to post it....he didn't feel like having to deal with everyones bashing when he knew he had accomplished it and didn't feel the need to prove anything to anyone.
The limitations on the renesis are clear, high compression(although not extremely high and can be dealt with using good engine management), ignition system(too weak) and ECU problems(like the car closing the Throttle halfway though a dyno run because it felt like it....oh wait....thats what happened to me ). If you can fix/bypass these three things you can get really far.
My intention with this post is not to create heat or commotion, I am just answering the question from where I stand.
Chris
I know this is going to create a million questions, doubts and skepticism but I will not go into it any further. All I will say is that I wasn't the one that accomplished this therefore I am not in the position to talk about it. If the person that I am talking about reads this and wants to talk about it then they can....there is a reason the person opted not to post it....he didn't feel like having to deal with everyones bashing when he knew he had accomplished it and didn't feel the need to prove anything to anyone.
The limitations on the renesis are clear, high compression(although not extremely high and can be dealt with using good engine management), ignition system(too weak) and ECU problems(like the car closing the Throttle halfway though a dyno run because it felt like it....oh wait....thats what happened to me
). If you can fix/bypass these three things you can get really far.My intention with this post is not to create heat or commotion, I am just answering the question from where I stand.
Chris
I would love to hear more about your friends project. I can understand him not wanting to deal with the haterZ. I just want to see how far the MSP has come. It's been half a decade since its release in Japan.
11-19-2007, 12:25 AM
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To the OP; Ignition is the biggest issue. Some have said a company has solved it, but they are yet to officially release a product to date, so it's still an issue. But it all depends on how far that can get us.
11-19-2007, 01:12 AM
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The answer is yes. The number was actually in the upper 500whp using c-16 and 30 plus psi(yes it had a custom metal upper intake manifold, ignition, mechanically controlled APV/SSV system and a custom return fuel system complete with two huge bosch pumps).
I know this is going to create a million questions, doubts and skepticism but I will not go into it any further. All I will say is that I wasn't the one that accomplished this therefore I am not in the position to talk about it. If the person that I am talking about reads this and wants to talk about it then they can....there is a reason the person opted not to post it....he didn't feel like having to deal with everyones bashing when he knew he had accomplished it and didn't feel the need to prove anything to anyone.
The limitations on the renesis are clear, high compression(although not extremely high and can be dealt with using good engine management), ignition system(too weak) and ECU problems(like the car closing the Throttle halfway though a dyno run because it felt like it....oh wait....thats what happened to me ). If you can fix/bypass these three things you can get really far.
My intention with this post is not to create heat or commotion, I am just answering the question from where I stand.
Chris
I know this is going to create a million questions, doubts and skepticism but I will not go into it any further. All I will say is that I wasn't the one that accomplished this therefore I am not in the position to talk about it. If the person that I am talking about reads this and wants to talk about it then they can....there is a reason the person opted not to post it....he didn't feel like having to deal with everyones bashing when he knew he had accomplished it and didn't feel the need to prove anything to anyone.
The limitations on the renesis are clear, high compression(although not extremely high and can be dealt with using good engine management), ignition system(too weak) and ECU problems(like the car closing the Throttle halfway though a dyno run because it felt like it....oh wait....thats what happened to me
). If you can fix/bypass these three things you can get really far.My intention with this post is not to create heat or commotion, I am just answering the question from where I stand.
Chris
http://www.jasperperformance.com/rx8/index.html
11-19-2007, 10:27 AM
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Some fella down in PR was making 392rwhp on stock renny back in 05 not sure where he is @ now but here is the thread Click
Chris
