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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord ET
No. Did you read this thread?
you need AT LEAST 2 keys that are already cut/programmed (this can include the valet key) to program another key, after having it cut.

If you don't have 2 keys already that will unlock/start the car you will have to get the new key cut (anywhere can cut the key so it unlocks the door) AND you will have to get it programmed so it will start the car. You can get the programming done at a dealership or at select locksmiths.

Once you have those 2 programmed you can program another.

If your FOB goes bad you don't need any working ones to program the new one. All you need is ONE functioning key (fully functioning, unlocks and starts car). Use that key and follow the procedure to program the FOB.

If you have an '04 you CAN buy the switchblade FOB with FCC ID: KPU41788. It will program correctly.

I hope this is a reasonable summary for those reading the thread.
Perfect summary! Dealer cut my key for free and I programmed it my self. Everything works like normal.
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 09:49 PM
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I am curious, I recently bought a rx8 from a co-worker of mine. Great buy, but the keyless entry just stopped working! I tried to reprogram it after I replaced the batteries but still no luck. So I am looking at getting a switch blade keyless entry. I have read that they work but I'm curious if I need to make sure of anything. I only have 1 key from the owner.

Visteon Model: 41848
FCC ID: KPU41805

Would anyone be able to tell me if this keyless entry will work?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BRAND...ht_1392wt_1165

or

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/04-09...#ht_878wt_1083

Also how much will it cost to have it programmed and cut? I don't think its possible with just 1 key is it?

Thanks in advance for any help!

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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 11:21 PM
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First one will definitely work, not sure about the card type. $90 - 120 to have a programmed and pre-cut blade bought from Mazda; just go to the dealer and get your key then sell me your transciever with the blank, LOL!
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Grace_Excel
First one will definitely work, not sure about the card type. $90 - 120 to have a programmed and pre-cut blade bought from Mazda; just go to the dealer and get your key then sell me your transciever with the blank, LOL!
Thanks for the reply. Why might my transceiver stop working?
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 03:53 AM
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No... It will definitely work if you follow the steps correctly. I have two used switchblades bought from an eBay seller, my other blade haven't been replaced for the key to work with my car, only my keyless FOB.

Addendum: Read the summary by Lord ET had posted if any of you are too lazy to go though all posts in this thread. Figure out the FCC ID before you make a purchase. This discussion has five pages, take the time to read those and you will find your answer sooner than waiting for an answer to the question you posted that's been answered in the past, slvrmzdrx8.

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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 10:36 PM
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So even though the ebay transceivers say they only work from 06-08 or 08-11 or 08-11, they will work with 04's as well?
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Grace_Excel
First one will definitely work, not sure about the card type. $90 - 120 to have a programmed and pre-cut blade bought from Mazda; just go to the dealer and get your key then sell me your transciever with the blank, LOL!
If you want my old fob, ill give it to you, just mail me a pre-paid postage box or envelop. Fob works, and so does the RF transmitter but it refuses to program with my car. The new Fob i bought works fine though.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 12:12 AM
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I only need a blank blade.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by slvrmzdrx8
So even though the ebay transceivers say they only work from 06-08 or 08-11 or 08-11, they will work with 04's as well?
The year is irrelevant. See the post above yours. Most eBay sellers don't even know they work with '04's, which is why they don't list it as such.
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 08:17 PM
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I bought my 04 rx8 used and only have the VALET key for it no remote no master key. If i buy a switchblade key from ebay will I still be able to cut it and program it for my car? I know the valet key doesnt open the trunk or glove box if locked. So if i cut the switchblade using my valet key as a copy will it be able to open my glovebox and trunk?
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GK1707
I bought my 04 rx8 used and only have the VALET key for it no remote no master key. If i buy a switchblade key from ebay will I still be able to cut it and program it for my car? I know the valet key doesnt open the trunk or glove box if locked. So if i cut the switchblade using my valet key as a copy will it be able to open my glovebox and trunk?

When you cut a key from another it is a duplicate...how do you think you would majically get a non-Valet key

If you go to the dealer they can cut a key( or 2 ) using the VIN.......and get them to program it since you won't be able to do that either
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 12:36 AM
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^ yep! It's best you seek a new key from the dealer amd surely the transceiver will be programmed while you are there.
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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 04:13 PM
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Not trying to threadjack but.. Just got my switchblade key in the mail (ordered it from ebay). Called up Koeppel Mazda here in Queens and the guy there told me that there not allowed to cut aftermarket keys on their cutter since it can damage the cutter. What kinda bullshit is that? He said if i bring the key he may be able to try if its a genuine Mazda key. He quoted me $107 to cut the key and $60 to program it. Are there any other options that i have? Because that seems like a ridiculous price to cut and program a key. Again i only have the valet key for my car.

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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 04:18 PM
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How much do they want to cut and program 2 keys.....if it is cheaper then you can get the switchblade key cut somewhere else ...or you could get one key cut...go and get the switchblade key cut to match..and come back to have them both programmed ......
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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 04:28 PM
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Im not too sure about the price for two keys? I might call back tommorow to ask. But i see what your saying. I should get one key from them and have my switchblade key cut from that somewhere else and take them both there to get programmed.

EDIT: Just called them back and its $65 for a new key alone. So i could get a new cut key from them and have my switchblade cut somewhere else and to program the two key its still $107. Only thing they said I would have to speak to the service dept. for programming aftermarket keys. So i have to callback tomorrow since the service dept. is closed now.

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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 04:31 PM
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I would also call around to a few locksmiths....or Ford dealerships as well....The iDS that ford uses is the same and they can program your key as well...many large locksmiths have the hardware to program keys as well
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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 05:26 PM
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I bought my key on eBay for like $25.
Went to locksmith to cut it for $5.
Programmed it myself for free.
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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Munchy
I bought my key on eBay for like $25.
Went to locksmith to cut it for $5.
Programmed it myself for free.
Bingo. It should be in the FAQ. Check it out guys.
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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 07:32 PM
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Come on guys ...read...he only has one key ...and a valet key at that
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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 07:36 PM
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Bah. I just skim these ancient multi-page threads.
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dannobre
come on guys ...read...he only has one key ...and a valet key at that
tl;dr
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 08:46 PM
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my friend has 2 key fobs not working but i think is him he ordered a another from ebay will see what happens , i dont got no fobs so im hoping his new one works so i can buy other 2 from him.
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Old May 8, 2012 | 07:55 AM
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I finally tested my fob and found it non-functional for whatever reason it may be. So i decided a switchblade is the proper answer but am finding a lot of the ebay sellers are specifically saying these CANNOT be programmed by yourself and that you need a locksmith or the dealer.

For example ....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAZDA-REMOTE...fc6fc1&vxp=mtr

Under "important" he says there is no manual way to do it yourself. This conflicts with what i'm pretty sure to be true on the boards and getting the proper fcc id from this thread i still should be able to program myself right?
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Old May 8, 2012 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by nogoer
I finally tested my fob and found it non-functional for whatever reason it may be. So i decided a switchblade is the proper answer but am finding a lot of the ebay sellers are specifically saying these CANNOT be programmed by yourself and that you need a locksmith or the dealer.

For example ....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAZDA-REMOTE...fc6fc1&vxp=mtr

Under "important" he says there is no manual way to do it yourself. This conflicts with what i'm pretty sure to be true on the boards and getting the proper fcc id from this thread i still should be able to program myself right?
Here is the summary of everything (everyone) needed to know:

Originally Posted by Grace_Excel
Make sure you have the right Model.

Old 2004 FOB:
Visteon Model: 41848
FCC ID: KPU41805
IC: 4238A-12076

What you need to buy:
Visteon Model: 41525
FCC ID: KPU41788
IC: 4238A-41525
Originally Posted by ShellDude
Read the procedure. You've got everything you need (except the switchblade and blank) to do it yourself with a quick trip to a hardware store to copy your existing (not valet) key to the blank.





The valet key definitely works as part of coding -- just don't use it to cut your new key. And you do not need an existing FOB. They all get re-registered when you follow the specific procedure for them... again, documented above.
Originally Posted by Lord ET
You need AT LEAST 2 keys that are already cut/programmed (this can include the valet key) to program another key, after having it cut.

If you don't have 2 keys already that will unlock/start the car you will have to get the new key cut (anywhere can cut the key so it unlocks the door) AND you will have to get it programmed so it will start the car. You can get the programming done at a dealership or at select locksmiths.

Once you have those 2 programmed you can program another.

If your FOB goes bad you don't need any working ones to program the new one. All you need is ONE functioning key (fully functioning, unlocks and starts car). Use that key and follow the procedure to program the FOB.

If you have an '04 you CAN buy the switchblade FOB with FCC ID: KPU41788. It will program correctly.

I hope this is a reasonable summary for those reading the thread.

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Old May 9, 2012 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Grace_Excel
Here is the summary of everything (everyone) needed to know:
Got that, thanks and its great to have it deeper in the thread for those lazy people who don't start at page one. However my question wasn't about how to do this, it was hoping to confirm that the nonsense with ebay sellers saying "no self programming" was actually nonsense. Even though all the numbers matched up and everyone said it worked it's been almost 4 months since the last informative post and i couldn't find anything in the entire thread that mentioned to ignore what sellers said about "dealer only programming"
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