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04-10-2006, 07:20 PM
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hmmm, range on the compustar is longer, and i know (at least a little while ago) were illegal as they used unlicensed spread spectrum. viper is coming out with theirs later this year
as to the rx-8, it is perfectly safe to do a remote start because of the built in neutral safety switch. i have the viper 791xv on my car with remote start working with no issues. i dont have to do any special dance with buttons or anything like. i park the car, get out. thats it. if its in gear, it will not start. if its not in gear, it starts just fine
as to the rx-8, it is perfectly safe to do a remote start because of the built in neutral safety switch. i have the viper 791xv on my car with remote start working with no issues. i dont have to do any special dance with buttons or anything like. i park the car, get out. thats it. if its in gear, it will not start. if its not in gear, it starts just fine
05-14-2006, 11:06 PM
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im getn the viper 771vx.. and from consumer reports reviews... it actually is in the top 3... soo viper is actually one of the better companies.... ofcourse I am gonna b in an auto 8... besides.... if u need an autostart for a stick... the viper works fine.. a bich to install... but works perfectly.
05-15-2006, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by lazi
^uhm i don't know about you. but all DEI remotes. such as viper, hornet, clifford etc can do all of those features.
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12-06-2006, 09:33 PM
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Auto tran. With OEM Fob
are their remote starters out there that work with the oem key fob...
my dad got one for his chevy avalanche where he pushes the lock button twice and the car starts...i want the same thing for my "8"
any suggestions
i have the at with smartshift and all the trimmings....thanks
keith
my dad got one for his chevy avalanche where he pushes the lock button twice and the car starts...i want the same thing for my "8"
any suggestions
i have the at with smartshift and all the trimmings....thanks
keith
12-06-2006, 09:39 PM
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they are out there, but in my opinion are pretty much worthless. range is limited to that of the factory system. spend a couple extra bucks, get a better system, and be happier
12-07-2006, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by tmak26b
I have something called AStrostart on mine. It's got an ugly remote, but I dont use it much anyway. Gas is already expensive, I dont need my car sitting for 5 min. burning gas.
ok, so if i get a viper or some other brand, and in the future i want to get an '05 fob; just because its cool...are they programmable to use that fob...
Tmak26b: if youre not using yours...do you want to sell it???
thanks
Keith
12-08-2006, 04:52 PM
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hey lurch, where is the neutral safety switch at....i was going off of dei's techsoft and they did not have one listed on the page. i have been installing for a few years now and i was curious if it is possible to get a regular key for the 8 from mazda without all of the keyless **** on it so i can avoid disassembling it and shoving it into a 556 mod. and by the way....on any type of convenience systems (rs, keyless, alarm) any directed electronics system is the way to go. in the 5 years that i have been installing, every other system that i have put in has run into issues somewhere down the line. and as far as the compustar system goes, i have put them in before and i have experienced first hand that they DO fail. installed one on a new mustang when i worked at galpin auto sports and another employee went to pull the car in at the end of the night and remote started the car straight into the gm's truck. had a compustar tech come out and look at the install and he sat there right in front of me and told me that it was a malfunction in the cpu. so if you do not have a neutral safety wire in the vehicle, there are a couple of things that you can do to make installing these systems much safer: install tilt switches on the shifter going both directions (having the car in gear will set them off...only downfall is if you are parked on a hill); a little more in depth but you can use stop switches; and a cool trick that i learned from working with mad mike is to strap a shock sensor to the shifter....it works suprisingly well. but yeah, get back with me on the neutral safety wire loc and the key thing.
12-08-2006, 05:47 PM
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next, your remote start system should have a neutral safety wire, if it is a DEI system this should be black with a white stripe. the system needs to see a ground on this wire for the system to activate. route this wire down into the center console, down through the shifter boot to underneath the car (i forget which side the switch is on) but on one side a little back from the shifter will be a switch on the side of the transmission. its a little tough to get to, but it can be done. ive done 3 myself. both wires will be grey (if i remember correctly) one wire will always read ground, the other will read ground only when the shifter is in the neutral position. if it is in gear, you will not have ground, this will insure that the remote start try to start the car if its in gear, which could be very bad to disastrous depending on the situation (one of the guys i used to work with had one on his nissan and had to chase his truck across the parking lot of the local mall)
as to the key, you should be able to program a standard pats style key to the car, as long as you have 2 keys already programmed. though dei now has an 1100f module which works the same as the new audiovox asxk04 module, just more expensive. i work for a shop which carries dei, as well as the audiovox prestige line, and of course dei is great, but we have very few problems with the audiovox either.
the part about the neutral safety is copied from something i sent to someone else.
as to the key, you should be able to program a standard pats style key to the car, as long as you have 2 keys already programmed. though dei now has an 1100f module which works the same as the new audiovox asxk04 module, just more expensive. i work for a shop which carries dei, as well as the audiovox prestige line, and of course dei is great, but we have very few problems with the audiovox either.
the part about the neutral safety is copied from something i sent to someone else.
12-16-2006, 03:59 PM
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I installed a remote starter on a 2004 Xterra of mine once... It was a remote start thingy only made by Omega... I'm gonna call them up and see if they can hook us up with wiring diagrams... Most specifically for the 2004...
12-16-2006, 06:09 PM
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Oh God. Please Do NOT install remote start in your MT. You're asking for trouble. One of these days, you'll forget and leave it in gear. And when you try to start it, your car will start flying to walls, cars, fences, curbs...etc.. I have done it once and will never do it again. If you think you're not going to forget, someone will. If you lend your car to a friend or someone moves your car ..
in simple words..
DON'T DO IT.
I have a clifford and I have remote start on my alarm. I OPT NOT to install it.
in simple words..
DON'T DO IT.
I have a clifford and I have remote start on my alarm. I OPT NOT to install it.
12-17-2006, 12:44 AM
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on most manual transmission vehicles, this is the case. on the rx-8, it is possible to safely install remote start on the car, without any safety issues. there is a neutral safety switch on the transmission, which if hooked up to the remote start correctly, will not allow the remote starter to engage if the car is left in gear. i have remote start on mine, with absolutely no issues, problems, and have never had the car take off on me, even though i have left it in gear a time or two.
12-17-2006, 08:02 AM
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All the RX-8s have the neutral safety switch which paired with a remote starter that uses this as a safety switch is almost fool proof.
If the installer does a good job hooking up the wire to this feature and securing it.
The downside is if they do not and the wire for this feature is ground out on the body of the car it could be started regardless of being in gear or not.
I believe this is why some installers worry about installing a remote start on a manual transmission... in addition to not all vehicles have this from other automakers.
I will be installing mine within the next week or so. Compustar with a optimal range of 6,000 feet 2 way remote. If the car starts it lets the person know as well as alerts if the alarm goes off.
There are Viper and Audiovox units that are similar.
If the installer does a good job hooking up the wire to this feature and securing it.
The downside is if they do not and the wire for this feature is ground out on the body of the car it could be started regardless of being in gear or not.
I believe this is why some installers worry about installing a remote start on a manual transmission... in addition to not all vehicles have this from other automakers.
I will be installing mine within the next week or so. Compustar with a optimal range of 6,000 feet 2 way remote. If the car starts it lets the person know as well as alerts if the alarm goes off.
There are Viper and Audiovox units that are similar.
03-17-2007, 10:41 PM
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Adding on Remote start to a manual transmission after shop installs Viper alarm
I have been trying to find someone to install a Viper alarm on a Manual transmission 2004 RX8 in the Sacramento area, but they all say "no". Is there a way to have them install a system without the remote start function setup and then just hook that part up myself at a later time? Has anyone done this?
Thanks, Rob
Thanks, Rob
03-18-2007, 12:00 AM
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i have a viper installed w. rs on a manual... theres a bypass switch on our cars... and if you hook it up correctly, when in first gear and press the rs it would not turn the car on.. i got it done in DE by chuck aka lurch512 (i believe thats his sn) you might wanna ask him...
03-19-2007, 12:04 AM
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i recommend compustar. unlike d.e.i. (i.e. Viper, Python, Clifford....etc), all compustar remote start systems require you to perform a sequence which puts the vehicle into "reservation" mode. as long as the car has properly been put into reservation mode (the vehicle is in neautral and the parking brake has been set) the vehicle will start . as far as i know it is not illegal in any state for a manual transmission to be equipped with a remote starter. though it is illegal to start your car manually and leave the keys in the vehicle. any questions, message me. i am an authorized dealer and would be happy to help
03-21-2007, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by lurch519
one of the guys i used to work with had one on his nissan and had to chase his truck across the parking lot of the local mall
If you are really concerned about it you can hook in a window switch to disable the system if the car gets moving.
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