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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 11:42 PM
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Making the head unit display radio station info?

Ive noticed thaton a lot of newer cars these days include stock head units that can display the actual name of the radio station andnot just the channel number when you select a station (BMW Mercedes Jaguar etc) - and some willeven display the name of the song that the station is currentlyplaying if the station is transmitting that type of information. For exampleinstead of displaying 107.3 it wouldshow POWER 107 or somethingalong those lines. I recently upgraded to the MP3 playerand now my CD track information is displayed by the head unit andI was kind of hoping that the radio system would alsobe updated to display the station info butI guess it doesnt. Whattype of system is being included w/all these other cars that enables this feature and is there a wayto upgrade our head units to get themto do this as well?
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 03:04 AM
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You need an RDS-capable radio which apparently the one in the RX-8 is not. I don´t think there is an easy way (if at all) to upgrade the radio to that.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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I think the only time I've seen RDS radios was when I was renting a car out of town. It's funny though, I was just thinking this same thing myself today.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Pavehawk
I think the only time I've seen RDS radios was when I was renting a car out of town. It's funny though, I was just thinking this same thing myself today.
I had a few cars in the late 90's that had RDS, but no stations were doing it back then, and my most recent two cars (RX8 + Explorer) don't have RDS, and now every station around here does it... pisses me off. My neighbor was showing me his new Toyo Matrix and one of the local stations scrolls the song title/artist on the screen... it was pretty sweet.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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I had RDS on my last car. I really don't miss it.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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I saw a picture of an RX-8 display on some other thread, some other topic that I can't remember that showed the radio station name, so it seems like it might be possible
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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You need an RDS-capable radio which apparently the one in the RX-8 is not. I don´t think there is an easy way (if at all) to upgrade the radio to that.
Yes, and no. And I was wondering the same thing.

If you do the key-combination trick to mess with the contrast on the display, you can see that the display has 'RDS' and 'PTY' elements in it. So, Mazda obviously thought about it in some sense.

I suspect that the European cars have it - their FM has narrower channel splits than we do in the US to accomodate more stations, and so would require a different radio anyway.

No, there's no way to upgrade a US-spec radio to have RDS/PTY functions, but there's probably no reason why a Euro-spec radio couldn't be swapped in. What we need is someone from Europe to confirm that their Bose and non-Bose radios have the feature, and then to try a swap into a US car.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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Rds

Yeah that pic was a German RX8 (the one with the RDS) - I think he clarified in the same thread.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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I already have the 6 CD changer and was looking at the MP3 player. Can you have a CD and MP3 player in the same area co-existing or does the MP3 player replace the 6 CD changer?
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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I already have the 6 CD changer and was looking at the MP3 player. Can you have a CD and MP3 player in the same area co-existing or does the MP3 player replace the 6 CD changer?
No- they use the same spot. The top module can be a CD, 6 CD, or MP3 CD player. The lower module can be a Tape or MD player... and when the Sirius sat radio module is released I'm betting it's a lower module as well.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by G8rboy
No- they use the same spot. The top module can be a CD, 6 CD, or MP3 CD player. The lower module can be a Tape or MD player... and when the Sirius sat radio module is released I'm betting it's a lower module as well.
So you mean it is not possible to have the 6-cd player and MP3 cd player at the same time? That really sucks, but then again, I'm greedy. :D
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 02:29 PM
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Yes I can confirm the Euro spec does support and display RDS info!
I see the station names nicely, but freq hopping is not working as it seems...
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 02:32 PM
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news flash.. i am working on a way to have personilezd text display. it will take a while but it is comming..
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JM1FE
I suspect that the European cars have it - their FM has narrower channel splits than we do in the US to accomodate more stations, and so would require a different radio anyway.

No, there's no way to upgrade a US-spec radio to have RDS/PTY functions, but there's probably no reason why a Euro-spec radio couldn't be swapped in. What we need is someone from Europe to confirm that their Bose and non-Bose radios have the feature, and then to try a swap into a US car.
Would swapping the radio not cause any issues? As you said, the FM channel split is different in Europe, so I suppose a European radio wouldn't be able to tune to certain US frequencies then. Might not be a big problem, but possibly some radio stations would not come in with that radio - or am I wrong?
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Tamas
Would swapping the radio not cause any issues? As you said, the FM channel split is different in Europe, so I suppose a European radio wouldn't be able to tune to certain US frequencies then. Might not be a big problem, but possibly some radio stations would not come in with that radio - or am I wrong?
The US uses the odd-numbered channels - 88.1, 88.3, 88.5, whereas the European one uses the even-numbered ones as well - 88.1, 88.2, 88.3, 88.4, 88.5. I don't think that we would *lose* anything, we'd just gain some useless (to us) splits. I have a Blaupunkt Alaska II (with RDS/PTY, and I like it a lot) where you can select either the US or European channnels through one of the config menus. I've run it both ways with no ill effects.
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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I just dont get it... Are they saving these things for future model years to give more options? I cant understand why these simple things like RDS and Automatic Climate Control wouldnt be standard....
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 07:19 PM
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I dont think european stations goto 108 on FM?
I have to agree with flyboy, most of the hardware is already in place for features like RDS.
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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Speaking of the AC -- yeah man Iwas a little surprised that Mazda STILL hasnt upgraded the AC for automatic climate control system for the brand new 2005 US Rx8s. The non-US 2004 Rx8s all came w/the automatic climate controlso I dont understand why the hellthey couldnt update it for 2005. Imean is an interior upgrade as small as thisreally that difficult to implement in a year?

I guess Mazda NA must have spent all their resources for 2005 on upgrading the friggin key and itwas out of their budget to replace the manual AC w/the automatic system thatall the other countries have. Thats just weak.
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 07:28 AM
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What he said.
RDS has been around in Europe since the late 80's if I remember correctly and is widespread in UK and Europe.
Automatic channel re-tuning rules!
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 07:43 AM
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Wow. Are those aspects of the RDS feature included in US radios which support the text display? My other vehicle shows the text which is moderately cool...but I have no idea if it will do the rest.

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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 08:45 AM
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I was in England for a couple years and I rented a ford focus that had RDS. It was cool, but I did find it annoying to be listening to a CD and have it interrupt for a traffic update. I was well aware of the traffic as I was moving at 0 MPH on the A1.

I would like to see it in the 8 though, as long as I can switch off the traffic interrupt if not listening to a radio station.
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 08:51 AM
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I would like to see it in the 8 though, as long as I can switch off the traffic interrupt if not listening to a radio station.
The traffic interrupts don't exist in the US - just station name, current song, etc. on the display.
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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I've also remember seeing in the Nav's secret menus that it can monitor an FM station for traffic - does the Euro spec navi system use the RDS info for routing/warning?
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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I was wishing the 8 had this as well.

Funny thing is, the stereo 02 Ford Focus I traded in had this feature.
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