Leonheart

Alright well I bought the viper 5901 car alarm system with dei 530t automatic window roller, tilt sensor and glass break sensor. My thing is I bought the relays I need for the truck and dome light and I bought the 791 bypass module. The only thing I don't get is "an extra iginition key", what does that mean? Like an extra key at the dealership?

Leonheart

Anyone?

jrx13

Yeah, with that style of bypass you need a programmed chip key and you use it with the bypass.

Carbon8

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All bypass module's for our cars require two keys in order to program the only way to do it with one key is to remove the chip in your key place it in a universal bypass module linked below but to then have this immobilizer activated at all times otherwise your key will no longer work. Or you can go to the dealer and have them code you another key.

Leonheart

Oh ok thanks man, I just order another key with a chip that needs to be sync to the car on feebay :P will this do? Just need the immobilizer then? Does Mazda charge an arm and leg to do that? Lol

Carbon8

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I wouldn't suspect they would, i would be surprised if it was over a 100 bucks to code the key. Realistically looking around 50 bucks still sucks though

Leonheart

I see yeah man in the end I just ended up buying iDataLink instead, I can just easily flash the code that way, I feel uneasy about the traditional mobilizer with leaving a key in the car. I mean if a auto thief was smart enough they could easily find the key by ripping your interior lol. But anyways I figure to put in a few extra bucks for it instead of going to the dealership I called them with a quote and they said it ranges from $100 to $150 for a new key and code. I figure for $50 I can get this instead to save some money. Been learning alot about these systems there complicated to understand as far as wiring. I watch too much bait car on trutv haha.

Carbon8

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I was an installer for years, doing anything from radio's to extravagant fiberglass systems. The Viper system you went with to me is one of the best now make sure your get the smart start add-on feature. Unfortunately though that has to be programed at a direct vender as a code is needed for the smart start systems that DEI does not give out to anyone but authorized vendors. Once I get a free day this is the system i am putting into my 8, but I am also adding advancedkeys push button start setup

Leonheart

Thanks man, yeah I'll make sure they do install that feature on there. I want to make sure that I get that, I bought the viper system brandnew and just didn't realize that it cost money to get all the equipment well for me I want to have all the features, automatic roll up and down windows, tilt and glass break sensor. Man where you at? maybe you can help me out on this lol

Carbon8

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A long ways away from austin, I never used tilt, proximity or glass sensors my experience is they are usually finicky and unreliable I just incorporated basic alarm functionality. For added fun you can get a recordable siren and record anything you want the siren to say when the alarm goes off. I will give a word of caution that if you are inexperienced with wiring and understanding principals of basic electricity to get this installed professionally, one wrong connection and you could fry an input or output of a BCM ECU or worse all of which are costly repairs.

Leonheart

Naw man I plan on getting it installed professionally knowing me something bad could happen wiring wise.

Leonheart

Well just an update, I finally took in my car yesterday to get the alarm system installed and window module. The shop called me back and informed me that my car will take longer than usual. The reason being is the remote start which they just now got over, was over cracking when the remote start was use. The window module on the other hand they said was another pain, they told me they never had a customer come in with an RX8 before, they always get GM cars, BMWs, Mercedes, exotics and economic cars that you see everyday on the road. They told me to keep it one more night and should be ready by the afternoon tomorrow or else they'll give me a discount for an incomplete job and bring it in another day to finish on them. I guess it comes to show you that RX8's really are a rare jewel to some automotive shops lol

Carbon8

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Are cars have an automatic over cranking safety switch its impossible to over crank them, I call BS on that shop.

Sugarfree135

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Which only works if you've already let off the key and the motor is running, I personally watched my wife crank it for too long lol

WingleBeast

smart start is the ****

Leonheart

I think so too, the hardest part for them is getting the window module setup for the RX8. I thought about that when they mention it to me, I hope there not taking my car out for a joy ride because I took a picture of my gauges with mileage before I left it with them. I'll make sure they pay me the gas if they did have fun with it, I would personally be pissed off and write a review on YELP about them.

Carbon8

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Also should be noted that are cars are common for remote starts and after market alarms. Are antitheft is no different then any other other Mazda Models and is identically to all late model Fords. This shop sounds like they have no idea what there doing.

Leonheart

Well I think the fact that the guy who I talked with deals with the customer support with direct eletronics is off for the next 2 days so these guys that are working on my 8 I don't know them so it's bringing up alot of questions for me. Just have to wait and find out, if all goes well I'll post up a video with pictures for all of you. But one thing for sure next time I'm gonna take it into a professional who dealt with RX8's and 10+ years of experience. These folks are like 3 years.

Leonheart

I guess just to update on this, I had to get another viper system for my car due to the system being out of date since it was 3 years old and just didn't work for my 8 as far as the remote start is concerned. With the warranty I upgraded to the 5704 model which is basically the 5901 of 2012. Everything works fine and the remote start feature works great. I did had to dish another $100 for the install and kicking my butt about it. But in the end it's a nice system to have. I know I'll get burned for this but oh well it's rather they do it or I do it and burn my ECU on my 8 lol. Will make a video on it for sure by tomorrow, if anyone is interest in seeing how it works but I'm sure many of you here on the forums have it already.