tokenbrit

And...

...the speed of light is approximately 186,000 miles per second, or 300,000 kilometers per second. :D

If your going to quote something, please get it right. :p :D

scubacap

Disprove? You haven't proven anything. All you have done is quote some marketing material from someone who wants to sell you their gizmo.
Your beloved LRC100 didn't even make the list off Laser Jammers on radartest.com. You are very defensive about this product, are you selling this? I told you - if you have such faith in this product mount it on your little Metro and speed away.
One thing I like about this forum is the sharing of information - who used what, what didn't work, what did work, etcetera. You are corrupting this forum by pushing an unproven product.
I would also suggest you cut down on your male enhancement drugs, they seem to be effecting your brain: you are easily influenced and an rather slow.

RandyP

Gosh, you ask a reasonable question and get abused with Bad Relativity.

The mirror transmits X10 control signals that can be picked up by an X10 receiver, which routes the signals through your house on the 110v line (or 220, if you're in Europe, etc.)

You assign all devices a unique code, then transmit that code to activate, deactivate, and potentially fade in/out an incandescent light. I have one the turns on/off the pellet stove. I use them as theft deterrents, by having a computer control lights with structured/random light activity. You could control sprinklers, almost anything except kids.

You could set up a computer with one or more X10 addresses, to make intelligent programmable responses to certain codes (like, you press one mirror button and several lights come on, and the garage door opens, and the kids come out to bring up the trash (maybe)).

If you have a big house, you may need to get a bridge to take signals from one side of the split 220V main into both sides of the internal home 110V line.

Boozehound

Good god - I wondered why a garage door opener thread was at the top for so many days...

MazdaManiac

iTrader: (3)

It was the Revolutionary War all over again for a while...

tokenbrit

First let me put you right. :p

Not at-all. I am just saying that the method that this product works on is perfectly viable.

That's because www.radartest.com is a U.S. site. The Target LRC100 is a U.K. product. The Snooper SLD920X is a similiar U.K. product.
They are both on www.radardetectors.co.uk as this is a U.K. site.

All I have been doing is sharing information. You are saying that these products wont work. And I am challenging you to prove that these products don't work. And you seem unable to do this. They do work, and the U.K. police and press have tested them. And there is (or was) actually a case of the U.K. police force prosecuting somebody for flaunting a piece of equipment such as this. You, however are saying that "that can't work" without giving a valid reason why not. I have even given you my theory about how I think they work, and you have even failed to disproove that.

I think you are a bull-*******. :p I don't like bull-********. If you think something wont work, and your presented with evidence, it's up to you to either 1.) - provide evidence to back up your claim, or 2.) - leave it alone. You have done neither...

The way I see it is that you wanted to 'show off' that you work with radar. To me you have only proved you know very little about anything.

Please prove me wrong. :p If you can. :D

And take the personal insults to PM. Where I can really tell you what I think of you.... :p :p

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Now wasn't this thread initially about "Garage door opener idea's". :D

scubacap

Once again you miss the point. You haven't proven anything. If YOU think it will work prove it! Give us something more than a sales web site. Any independent studies? I would hate for any of my fellow RXr's to put faith in this device and then get busted, fined and possibly have their 8 impounded.
If such a device doesn't work, they get stopped and the cop finds it. It could be an FCC violation (which there is a disclaimer on your web site)
PI? Don't like it, then don't start it.
I pointed some friends at JAC Molesworth to your site. Maybe you will get a sale so they can eval it.
Yes, this was for garage door openers. So can this be wired to the homelink?
Do you have a homelink?

truemagellen

WILL NOT WORK...PERIOD...many Police Laser Speed acquisition units shift light frequency continually...which is why you need a jamming unit that sends out light in many frequencies creating incredible amounts of light noise that distrupts the reflected light signal.

A unit that sends out one frequency of light may jam that specific frequency but no other...to clarify IR can jam IR especially if the jamming IR is a stronger signal...which most Laser jammers are and is the reason jammers cannot run off portable batteries only the cars generator/car battery...thus there is no way a little portable unit running off battery could be jamming with a higher powered light signal all the time...the battery would run out within a few hours.

I'm sorry guys but the LRC100 and similar units are scams...watch out...don't say I didn't warn you.

Oh and how did my thread get into discussing this crap?

scubacap

You mean the UK ad is misleading?
Emphasis on the "incredible" amount of light noise.

A detector is better when you can brake with an 8.

RandyP

Because the TokenBrit has been Token too much. You wanted to find out about HomeLink and the Token Brit hijacked this thread onto nonsense. So let's just ignore him and talk about Homelink.

The mirror transmits using the Homelink Protocol to control devices, primarily X-10 devices. A good overview is at Home Link Automation. Try the article on Lighting. and "What is Automation?" is helpful reading.

There will almost certainly be more and more HL devices, as well as bridges to Bluetooth and IP for communications with the telephone network or the LAN/Internet.

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Just ignore any more stupid remarks about garage door openers and lasers. All he's talking about is a sad little so-called laser jammer that looks like a garage door opener because jammers are illegal in the UK. He either believes it's an opener, so we should ignore him... or he is hijacking the thread, so we should ignore him.

ScudRunner

If you want to be really exact, 3.0x10^8 m/s is NOT 300km/s. It is 300000km/s, which when divided by 1.6km/mile yields 187500 miles/second. It is that fast.

Um, what??? Exactly what "disco ball" are you talking about? Cuz if it is something similar to the one on top of the helo in this picture here (blocking your view of part of the rotor blade parked at the bird's 7 o'clock), that (to my knowledge) doesn't have anything to do with lasers.

scubacap

No not on the Blackhawk. We had some on the older versions of AH-1 and UH-1. Most of these have been sold off overseas. They are cylindrical, not round like a ball. But we have nicknames for everything.
The theory being that the newer heat seeking missiles have a secondary laser lock/proximity indicator. Since HSM can be distracted by flares the idea was the LIDAR (laser) would 'spin' and look until it "locked" onto a solid object closest to the heat source at about 100 meters (no..that's not the exact range, but close enough for open forum). At that point the laser would take over and guide the missile to the target and the thermal signature would be disregarded. The theory was if the missiles laser could be confused by the mirrors, it would not lock; thus it would stay dependant on it's heat seeking function. So that is the SWAT in a nutshell. Is it effective? About has much as the french army. But hey, it's an upgrade to charge for.

scubacap

The homelink is great. We have it programed for the gate, garage door and alarm.
Anyone know if someone makes an off-the-shelve faucet for homelink? It would be neat to have the bathtub begin to fill automatically so it's ready to go after we get into the house.

ScudRunner

Yea, the one on the Blackhawk (and I only used a Blackhawk cuz it was easy to find) in the picture is cylindrical, not round. It is the AN/ALQ-144, and was standard equipment on the AH-1 (see the picture). And, like I said, it has nothing whatsoever to do with lasers. I have never heard of an IR SAM that had a laser "lock" for terminal guidance; if they do exist, I'd love to know more (cuz that scares the **** out of me almost as badly as beam riders do). Mind if I ask what your background is in this area?

tokenbrit

I don't think I have. I've already pointed you in the direction of information to back my claim up.

This is a newpaper website that reviewed the product (The Times).
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...884423,00.html

These are links that have tested similiar U.S. products (some of which work, others that don't).
http://www.radartest.com/article.asp?articleID=8502
http://www.radartest.com/chart.asp?articleid=8503

Trying to talk to you is like trying to talk to a brick wall.
I don't like somebody being blinded by bull-****. My perception of you is that you were trying to blind fellow RX8 club members with your bull-****. This is still true. You obviously are blinded by bull-**** (or are too stupid to know any better).

Remember that the product I keep referring to is a U.K./European product. It may work in the U.S., it may not. But the principle of it is sound.

AND similiar U.S. products have been proven to work too (see link above).

It is NOT my site, and I am not afiliated with this product/s in any way.

Apologies from various members that have slated me would be appreciated. :p I am not trying to sell anything; just prove the principle is sound.

I now think I have proved my point. I feel (a little) guilty about hi-jacking a thread with bullshit, but I also feel the need to defend myself when I'm not wrong. :p And expose idiots!! :D :p

I hope I have exposed just how gullable and stupid some people can be. Don't believe everything you read from "a independant distributor" who only sells certain brands...

Now let's move on...

And please leave me alone...... :D

And lets get back to the "Garage door opener" ideas. :D

StealthTL

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Probably not a good idea to hook up ANYTHING even slightly critical to your X-10 system......

The radio part seems to work in the 2.4 gig band, phones and stuff can cause random interference that turns lights etc. on/off.

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tokenbrit

StealthTL, you have a radar and a laser jammer.

And you live in the U.S.

I'm just curious if your units work?? If they do, and your prepared to state as such, it would be a nice way to end the farce I am dealing with about the feasability of laser jammers with other members of this forum... :D

Thanks.

scubacap

Scudrunner "...I have never heard of an IR SAM that had a laser "lock" for terminal guidance.." Correct! SAM, especially shoulder fired IE: Stinger; are strickly thermal guidance. They're cheap and effective against low slow movers (helicopters).
The laser is on AAM and a few AGM (next gen. AGM-65?). No reason why it couldn't be on a fixed SAM though, but they really don't need it. The LiDAR also helps with the laser guidance - fire and forget. Now the "gunner" can paint a target, fire and if he loses the target the IR tracks and the laser locks. This is a great help in the hotter regions of the world.
If your where I think you are don't worry about it too much. The good guy's have this, but of course we share with the french, so who knows who may have it. You have enough to worry about with Strela and Grail.
The "disco ball" is old school and the only place you'll see them now are on older models sold overseas. You may see them on a UH-1 made in ROC.
Background? I used to hang out in the area of Sierra Hwy and Avenue P. But I haven't been there in about 3 years. Worked the field for a little bit, but my wife didn't like where I went. Enough said, I don't need an SSO showing up on my door step.

Have you put a homelink on a bird yet?

ScudRunner

scuba: I think we're dancing around the point here. The AN/ALQ-144 that is in the two pictures I posted (one on a UH-60 and one on an AH-1), while possibly old school, is still all over Army helicopters, while they look for a replacement. And it is what the Army calls the "disco ball." And it doesn't have anything to do with lasers. It is strictly an IR "jammer," for lack of a better word. If there was a different "disco ball," used in the past to jam lasers, do you know the model number/designation?

and no, there's no room left on the Pave Low for a Homelink...

scubacap

ScudRunner: The AN/ALQ-144 is an active device. The D-Ball I'm talking about is a passive device. (As my daughter says - just a lot bling.) Both designed to do the same thing, but the CMS is much better. I can look through old files for photos, can't remember the NSN or Army Designation. I don't think you can find an old ball on anything later than an "H" model, and I don't think you can find an H in the states. Maybe at the museum at Fort Rukcer. In the early days we tried everything to confuse SAMS. When the lasers (which as you know are different than IR - heat) started to come on line the team looked at everything - chaff, strobe lights and mirrors.
If you aim an off the shelve laser range finder at the thing you have a hard time get a reading. If you've been to Cobra Gold you've seen some countrys using stuff we consider toys (off the shelf stuff.)

I got a ride in Pave at China Lake 3 or 4 years ago. One of the last ones I did. Yeah, there is a lot of stuff in there. I'm amazed at how you guys do it.

tokenbrit

Thanks for the apologies... [still none on 7th Aug. ]

scubacap, truemagellen, RandyP,



Enough said... :D

phatman

scubacap, scudrunner; please go and get sexually excited about helicopters elsewhere :D ... Personally I don't care about your fetishes. :o
This is a car forum. The RX8.

scubacap

Anything that rotates is a fetish!

Please excuse the noise, that is the sound of freedom.

truemagellen

apologies? you mistated the info and we told you that you were wrong...we were a little harsh but we thought you were selling us a line so sorry about that...

ok I said sorry...sheesh you got it out of me (I don't say sorry easily)

phatman

Loser. :p