"The external input terminal" for Nav Sys
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I have already a switch ( 2 A/V line in RCA) with tv tuner built in. It has rca A/V output Pal (2 audio + 1 video). I need a component that create an A/V Rgb in for Mazda Rx-8 module (Rgb),and switch when my swicth is power on. Do you understand?
I find only nav-visione that make this work but it is ntcs to rgb. I need pal to rgb that make this work.
I find only nav-visione that make this work but it is ntcs to rgb. I need pal to rgb that make this work.
#213
Thews8
you will have to go from NTSC to PAL... that's the only way. unless you can find one that is Pal to RGB... But if you already have a tuner and AV switcher that is pal, then you will need a pal to NTSC converter for your car..
Let me look at me Video sources and ill get back to you. I may have a source for a NTSC to PAL/PAL to NTSC converter. Ill get back to you.
Also if you had the T.V. tuner you would know.. but it would be mounted on the Right side of the trunk behind the Lining just behind the rear wheel. If you take out your trunk lining you will see a Small Square hole in the rear fender area. that's the spot where it would be. But if you had it you would already know.
good luck Ill get back to ya.
Let me look at me Video sources and ill get back to you. I may have a source for a NTSC to PAL/PAL to NTSC converter. Ill get back to you.
Also if you had the T.V. tuner you would know.. but it would be mounted on the Right side of the trunk behind the Lining just behind the rear wheel. If you take out your trunk lining you will see a Small Square hole in the rear fender area. that's the spot where it would be. But if you had it you would already know.
good luck Ill get back to ya.
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ive been trying to follow this whole post.... i think what may be VERY helpful here is if. we could get a diagram/schematic of the connector of the nav unit, and the hu. Although I dont grasp this stuff as well as thew does but, My theory is that the connect that goes into the nav unit is unplugged, then plugged into the jdm tv unit to output to the screen, then an input from the jdm that plugs into the factory nav unit.
so it would look like this
nav unit ---->jdm unit ----> screen
this is my theory which is the same as splicing the wires, but it uses actual wiring harness to make it plug and play
the audio is the same
it probably has a connector that goes into the same input that one would use if they have a md player...
so its jdm unit --->inputted to hu ----> to speakers
i also suspect that in the harness that woudl connect into the factory md player, that when you hit the aux button for the jdm unit to have audio, it would trigger a relay in the jdm unit to turn the navigation off and allow the jdm unit to use the screen.
THIS IS MY OBSERVATION, I COULD BE 100% WRONG, please try not to flame me...
so it would look like this
nav unit ---->jdm unit ----> screen
this is my theory which is the same as splicing the wires, but it uses actual wiring harness to make it plug and play
the audio is the same
it probably has a connector that goes into the same input that one would use if they have a md player...
so its jdm unit --->inputted to hu ----> to speakers
i also suspect that in the harness that woudl connect into the factory md player, that when you hit the aux button for the jdm unit to have audio, it would trigger a relay in the jdm unit to turn the navigation off and allow the jdm unit to use the screen.
THIS IS MY OBSERVATION, I COULD BE 100% WRONG, please try not to flame me...
#215
Thews8
Almost.. this is how is works ....
Nav unit --- LCD screen----LCD screen ----HU .
and For JDM cars.
Nav unit --- JDM T.V ------- LCD screen ---- HU .
The JDM t.v. intercepts the OEM DVD and switches between the inputs i.e... JDM Backup camera , JDM T.V. or Map DVD.
the T.V unit does not plug into the OEM DVD"Nav unit" the Nav unit goes to the JDM t.v. box and then it goes right to the HU. Per Mazda Japan... Nothing else beside the Toll booth counter plugs into the OEM DVD Nav unit.
We all know the HU controls the LCD because of the JDM t.v. screen we get with the Pie interface. ..... the HU senses continuity somewhere in the wiring harness that comes from the Nav. so your not going to find a bunch of wires coming from the Nav to the HU with Video and Audio.. its just sensing continuity and then allowing the LCD screen to switch.
So now we have beat this horse to death. When I get my PIE back from Bob I will try one more thing before i give up....
Nav unit --- LCD screen----LCD screen ----HU .
and For JDM cars.
Nav unit --- JDM T.V ------- LCD screen ---- HU .
The JDM t.v. intercepts the OEM DVD and switches between the inputs i.e... JDM Backup camera , JDM T.V. or Map DVD.
the T.V unit does not plug into the OEM DVD"Nav unit" the Nav unit goes to the JDM t.v. box and then it goes right to the HU. Per Mazda Japan... Nothing else beside the Toll booth counter plugs into the OEM DVD Nav unit.
We all know the HU controls the LCD because of the JDM t.v. screen we get with the Pie interface. ..... the HU senses continuity somewhere in the wiring harness that comes from the Nav. so your not going to find a bunch of wires coming from the Nav to the HU with Video and Audio.. its just sensing continuity and then allowing the LCD screen to switch.
So now we have beat this horse to death. When I get my PIE back from Bob I will try one more thing before i give up....
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Originally Posted by thew
[font=Arial][size=2]you will have to go from NTSC to PAL... that's the only way. unless you can find one that is Pal to RGB...
But if you already have a tuner and AV switcher that is pal, then you will need a pal to NTSC converter for your car..
Let me look at me Video sources and ill get back to you. I may have a source for a NTSC to PAL/PAL to NTSC converter. Ill get back to you.
Also if you had the T.V. tuner you would know.. but it would be mounted on the Right side of the trunk behind the Lining just behind the rear wheel. If you take out your trunk lining you will see a Small Square hole in the rear fender area. that's the spot where it would be. But if you had it you would already know.
Ok :-( But change also Nav System software?
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Originally Posted by thew
Working on that as well.. but the U.S. cars dont have the wireing harness to make the JDM t.v. unit work.. And so far my 3 contacts in Japan cannot get the JDM t.v tuner..
SO you ever feel like your repeating yourself...
SO you ever feel like your repeating yourself...
Thew, I feel your pain man, however, As the Master says "Think of your gas tank as half full, rather than half empty"
On that note, I remain optimistic.
It used to be that a car was more mechanical that electrical :o . So, in the tradition of the real auto enthusiasts of olden days, while waiting for this whole issue of in-car television to resolve itself;
I think I'll get some grease under my finger nails and bust a knucke or two installing my new Mazdaspeed flywheel. :D
#218
Thews8
I want one of those.. how much did it cost.. and please let me know how it drives after.. also I want to know about your MPG & off the line stats..
I have wanted that since day one.. I owned a car with one and it also had Metallic clutch disks.. 3 of them!\
It was a bear to slip the clutch.. but it was great form 2 gear on Talk about chirping 2nd gear ..
And yes.. I know we will get this worked out with the Video .. it will take time..
My glass is half full
I have wanted that since day one.. I owned a car with one and it also had Metallic clutch disks.. 3 of them!\
It was a bear to slip the clutch.. but it was great form 2 gear on Talk about chirping 2nd gear ..
And yes.. I know we will get this worked out with the Video .. it will take time..
My glass is half full
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At the risk of sounding incredibly stupid. but sometimes the small things can get overlooked (being a programmer I have been guilty of it many times).
That RCA connection looked very promising, and I don't recall seeing this mentioned at all in the past posts (I ran a search for Serial and only found it in 1 thread). But would that Secret Serial I/O menu (u,u,u,d,d,d,u,d) in the nav be of any use? I noticed an Enable all option. I thought this might enable that port that was a dead end.
Again I apologize if it has been covered or is way off base.
That RCA connection looked very promising, and I don't recall seeing this mentioned at all in the past posts (I ran a search for Serial and only found it in 1 thread). But would that Secret Serial I/O menu (u,u,u,d,d,d,u,d) in the nav be of any use? I noticed an Enable all option. I thought this might enable that port that was a dead end.
Again I apologize if it has been covered or is way off base.
#221
Thews8
Originally Posted by Photic
At the risk of sounding incredibly stupid. but sometimes the small things can get overlooked (being a programmer I have been guilty of it many times).
That RCA connection looked very promising, and I don't recall seeing this mentioned at all in the past posts (I ran a search for Serial and only found it in 1 thread). But would that Secret Serial I/O menu (u,u,u,d,d,d,u,d) in the nav be of any use? I noticed an Enable all option. I thought this might enable that port that was a dead end.
Again I apologize if it has been covered or is way off base.
That RCA connection looked very promising, and I don't recall seeing this mentioned at all in the past posts (I ran a search for Serial and only found it in 1 thread). But would that Secret Serial I/O menu (u,u,u,d,d,d,u,d) in the nav be of any use? I noticed an Enable all option. I thought this might enable that port that was a dead end.
Again I apologize if it has been covered or is way off base.
Hey Bob go to the Nav screen and try this.. get into the version screen .. hit the Joystick
up 3 times and the down 3 times then up once and down once. you will get a screen with 3 options choose the bottom one that says Serial I/O tell me if it says yours is enabled or disabled. If it is enabled all the entry's will say Disable k and so on.. if its Disabled like mine it will say Enable serial bla bla ....
Maybe yours is on.... WE hope.....
I am still trying mine again tomorrow..
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Originally Posted by thew
I want one of those.. how much did it cost.. and please let me know how it drives after.. also I want to know about your MPG & off the line stats..
I have wanted that since day one.. I owned a car with one and it also had Metallic clutch disks.. 3 of them!\
It was a bear to slip the clutch.. but it was great form 2 gear on Talk about chirping 2nd gear ..
And yes.. I know we will get this worked out with the Video .. it will take time..
My glass is half full
I have wanted that since day one.. I owned a car with one and it also had Metallic clutch disks.. 3 of them!\
It was a bear to slip the clutch.. but it was great form 2 gear on Talk about chirping 2nd gear ..
And yes.. I know we will get this worked out with the Video .. it will take time..
My glass is half full
As for the new flywheel, I was thinking about installing it myself, but since my time is at a premium these days, I may just take it to the dealer.
Anyway
Qty Description Unit Amount
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1 (RX08MS1011) Mazdaspeed Lightweight $522.00 $522.00
Flywheel
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Subtotal: $522.00
Total: $522.00
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Originally Posted by thew
Hey Bob go to the Nav screen and try this.. get into the version screen .. hit the Joystick ...
Maybe yours is on.... WE hope.....
Maybe yours is on.... WE hope.....
Mu build date is 06/04 but the dealer (actually the stereo shop subcontractor) fried the stereo when I was having the Nav worked on and had to replace the whole thing, so my HU is newer than the rest of my car.
Last edited by bobclevenger; 08-13-2004 at 04:09 PM.
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As more people report their build date, we may see a pattern emerge.
That's a hint, folks -- please report your build date (on the front pillar of the left rear door) as well as whether or not your PIE unit works. Thanks.
That's a hint, folks -- please report your build date (on the front pillar of the left rear door) as well as whether or not your PIE unit works. Thanks.