RaDaRkInG

The 9500i is worse than the Valentine One and the 8500 X50 and it has all of those problems that people are talking about.

http://guysoflidar.com/march-2007/ra...ctor-test.html

Jedi54

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Radar: Thank you for once again posting a biased opinion. I've looked at EVERY post you've ever made on this forum and they're all about how the Valentine is the greatest things since sliced bread.

We're all entitled to our opinions, but please don't continue to hijack my thread.

RedSheDevil

betcha radar works for valentine

saturn

I don't need any proof that the Valentine is more sensitive than anything ever invented. Everything I've ever read confirms that. Whether or not that sensitivity renders the thing useless because of all the false alarms is really the key point.

The thing I'm really interested in is whether or not the 9500 does in fact have some issues that make it less than stellar as compared to the cheaper 8500. I guess time will tell as more tests come out. Even if it's not quite as good, perhaps the added features will still make it the better tool overall.

RX8CaliGirl

Jedi, sounds like you really dig your 9500. I was going to get the 8500 x50 but now you're starting to convince me to go for the 9500.

Jedi54

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Hey CaliGirl, thanks for checking out my thread. I had every intention of ordering the X50 around Christmas time but my procrastination paid off. I got busy with other thing and then the 9500 came out.

So far I'm loving this thing. Not sure where abouts in Cali you are but if you do a lot of city driving, I think the extra $200 is worth it just so you can block out all those annoying false alarms. I drove about 35 miles this morning without my radar detector giving me a single alert. (thanks to blocking out signals on my daily commute)

RX8CaliGirl

I'm in the City of Angels. So is the main difference with the 9500 that it is less sensitive?

Jedi54

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nope, the sensitivity is the same as the X50 (since they share the same technology) BUT the 9500 is the first detector to incorporate GPS technology. Meaning, if you encounter a 'false' signal (such as automatic door sensors) you can filter out that signal.

The detector stores the location and frequency of that false signal and will block it out next time you drive by. It's pretty nice for me since there are probably half a dozen of these false alerts on my commute from home to my office. Now I don't have to worry about them.

laythor

Great thread so far Jedi.. it's really giving me the urge to buy this.

I had a quick question: Have you thought about doing a mod to put the mute button in a different location? I'm refering to this

I'm thinking it would be a nice touch to relocate the mute button off of the adapter (since it will be hardwired of course) and routing that to a location on the center console. I'm thinking this would have the added benefit of making it easier to lock out false signals since you have to hit the mute button three times to do it.


Have you heard of anyone doing this?

Jedi54

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Thanks Laythor, I wasn't sure how many people were actually following this thread...it's nice to know it's appreciated.

I can't say I've seen anyone relocate the mute button BUT if I had mine mounted to the windshield, I could see how it would be a pain to push the mute button all the time.
The Rear View mirror mount I went with, actually puts the unit a little closer to the driver so I haven't had any problems with it.

laythor

I'm planning on taking a drive down the coast from San Jose to Newport tomorow to visit my sister and my GF's mom. Looks like I'll be picking this up at my local BB tonight or in the morning.

It should be fun to test it out on the beautiful drive.

Jedi54

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are you going to hardwire it or run the cord to your cigarette lighter?

laythor

If I get to the store tonight to buy the dector, i'll have it hardwired before the drive tomorrow. Otherwise it's going to be plugged into the lighter.

I found the easy way to remove the maplight, I just take two thin plastic putty knives i have and jam them up the sides... maplight just pull right out.

I'll be hardwiring in there and then once I figure out which wires the mute button uses i'll be running a remote down the center console area. I'm thinking perhaps on the handbrake since I find my hand normally resting there while driving.

TheBri

Nice action. Now you should get a laser jamming device of some sort! I can't tell you how many times my laser shifters have saved me from a ticket.

TheBri

Here is where I installed my 'mute' button for my Escort SR7



And the location of the readout. My garage is rather a mess at the moment.

hemanrulez

hmm this radar detector does look interesting, but I dont think I can live with the issues mentioned with the OEM nav.

Jedi54, can you describe the nature of issues you have with the OEM nav and this unit. Do the homelink buttons work once you install this unit on the rear view mirror?

Jedi54

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The issue with the 9500 and the OEM Nav is an interesting one. Basically, here's what happens:
- If the detector is on and you 'open' the nav screen, the detector will sometimes trigger a Laser Alert! (I've noticed that sometimes it won't regsiter an alert)
- After 20-45 seconds, the Laser Alert goes away and you can continue to drive with the Nav Unit open without any issues.
- Since my Nav is closed 95% of the time I'm driving, I still haven't gotten around to sending the 9500 back to Escort to be adjusted (this is an issue with other cars as well)

ABSOLUTELY. The homelink system isn't being tampered with, all you're doing is tapping a power supply above the overhead lights. (see pic attached)

hemanrulez

can you program the 9500i to not go off when the OEM nav screen opens like you would do with any other false alarm?

Jedi54

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Nope, you cannot filter out laser. (for your own good)

laythor

Update on my weekend road trip...

I got to test out a passport radar detector... the 8500 x50 blue.

I had called and confirmed that they had the 9500i in stock, twice. I get there Thursday night and I'm told "we've never had that in stock".. wonderful

I pick up the 8500 blue (to go with my interior of course) and off I go.

Thoughts on the life of a speeder:

1. The first few times the dector goes off can be a real sphincter pincher if you're not careful. Avoid the temptation to look all over for where it's coming from.. just slow down.

2. It's amazing how freeing it can be to know you'll most likely get some warning if a ticket is in the offering.


All said and done, I like having a detector, but I want the 9500.. so i'll be returning this one.

TheBri

laythor: Make sure you keep in mind that it's not the end all be all in protection against a speeding ticket. You still need to keep your eyes open and watch for stuff. As soon as you rely completely on the detector you'll find yourself looking at rollers in the rear view.

Jedi54

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I couldn't agree more! Never forget that the BEST radar detector in the world is the one between your ears.

laythor

I didn't mean to sound like the radar detector replaced common sense. I'm more refering to the moments when the road is wide open, there traffic is non existant, and my desire to give it "a bit more gas" hits.

Driving down on the 5 on Friday was wonderful. Having a radar detector just adds a bit more comfort to those few times when I'm very slightly breaking the law.

Anyone who buys a detector and then proceeds to speed all over deserves the multiple tickets they're going to get.

saturn

I don't know about where you are, but 99% of tickets around here are given from laser instant-on speed traps. I don't want to start a big debate, but remember -- if you get hit with laser there's a pretty good chance it's too late.

Jedi54

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YUP.
The only chance you have is that there's cars in front of you and you pick up the Officer hitting THEM with Laser. Even then, you better have a damn good radar detector because laser is tough to pick up since it's instant on and it's not there very long.