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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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after doing the seat/roll bar install, i noticed the light blinks for about 5 seconds and beeps 4 or 5 times and then just stays steady on. with my 03 speed protege the light blinked costantly, and that got distracting. with this car, i can deal with the light just staying on. when i swap my steering wheel however it may keep blinking...who knows. i'm not even going to bother wiring a resistor for the seat bags.
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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Holy Thread Revival!

Im looking at getting a set of: Bride Gias for the car here shortly. I was just curious is anyone else has attempted this with the resitor & had it work? In the end I dont mind if the light stays on, but would still like to make sure the airbag fires, which I believe I read in a previous post that it will, since we drive it during the late spring/summer/early fall times.

Thanks for any help guys.
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by WoodsOfGreenRx8
Holy Thread Revival!

Im looking at getting a set of: Bride Gias for the car here shortly. I was just curious is anyone else has attempted this with the resitor & had it work? In the end I dont mind if the light stays on, but would still like to make sure the airbag fires, which I believe I read in a previous post that it will, since we drive it during the late spring/summer/early fall times.

Thanks for any help guys.

Unless someone has wrecked their car with this mod done in it then no one can really be sure the air bags will fire when and if needed.
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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Unless someone has wrecked their car with this mod done in it then no one can really be sure the air bags will fire when and if needed.
Im not asking if anyone has had their airbags deployed on them, but whether or not the resistor worked to make the light go out.
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by WoodsOfGreenRx8
Im not asking if anyone has had their airbags deployed on them, but whether or not the resistor worked to make the light go out.
Yes. It works.
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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I have a 2004

I never knew there was a light at all until I rode in Ryan's car
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by slavearm
Yes. It works.
Thanks man!


And Dan, I cant take credit for Danielle Project! She's done the work too.
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 11:10 PM
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jeez... I pretty much suck at electronics...

let me know how to hook up resistor to airbag connector...

do I have to power down while I connect those resistor?
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 11:45 PM
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jeez... I pretty much suck at electronics...

let me know how to hook up resistor to airbag connector...

do I have to power down while I connect those resistor?
I would.

And I would get a couple of spades that will fit in there and get the nice little insulated resistor leads and if you want to get real clean, a 2x1x.5" project box and put the spades at the end and connect the resistor inside. Nice clean plug in module then. I have thought about selling these, but in the end, I cannot sell them for enough to be worth my time. If nothing else buy a big roll of electrical tape and go to town.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by WoodsOfGreenRx8
Im not asking if anyone has had their airbags deployed on them, but whether or not the resistor worked to make the light go out.
No that is not what you asked.

dont mind if the light stays on, but would still like to make sure the airbag fires
And as I pointed out unless someone that has done this mod has wrecked their car and had the air bag work then you do not know if messing with the factory set up if the air bags are going to still fire in an accident, which is what you said you wanted to make sure of in your first post.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 07:13 AM
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Or, unless someone understands what the purpose of that sensor is and can understand the repricussions. The rx8 has a two stage airbag. Depending on a few factors determines how fast that airbag opens. One of the factors is seat position. The problem (a small one in my mind) with this mod is that the seat thinks you are in just one location, irrelevant of where you actually are. Even with the light on the airbag will deploy.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 07:38 AM
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Even with the light on the airbag will deploy.
You think.
Unless tested you cannot know that 100% for sure.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by mdr
You think.
Unless tested you cannot know that 100% for sure.

Are you volunteering to test it for us?

All the sensor does is feedback a certain voltage based on seat position. WE are smart enough to ensure that the resistor used is one right in the middle of the range the seat rail feedback can provide, which makes the system think the seat is somewhere close to the middle. Otherwise you have done nothing to alter the system that fires the airbags. Not to turn this into a flame war, but at least offer up some knowledge to make your claim. Read the damn book then come back. This is a fairly common feature on newer cars, and not exactly rocket science.

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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by slavearm
Are you volunteering to test it for us?

All the sensor does is feedback a certain voltage based on seat position. WE are smart enough to ensure that the resistor used is one right in the middle of the range the seat rail feedback can provide, which makes the system think the seat is somewhere close to the middle. Otherwise you have done nothing to alter the system that fires the airbags. Not to turn this into a flame war, but at least offer up some knowledge to make your claim. Read the damn book then come back. This is a fairly common feature on newer cars, and not exactly rocket science.
Not offering to do anything, cause I ain't planning on messing with my seats.

All I was doing is pointing out a simple observation, until someone tests the mod no one knows if it will work or not. In theory it should work, but I have been in electronics long enough (over 30 years) to know that theory and reality sometimes are two different things.

Hope it does work, but I ain't betting my life or the life of a loved one on anything not throughly tested.

Anyhow I am done with the thread you guys carry on.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mdr
No that is not what you asked.

And as I pointed out unless someone that has done this mod has wrecked their car and had the air bag work then you do not know if messing with the factory set up if the air bags are going to still fire in an accident, which is what you said you wanted to make sure of in your first post.

Had you not just skipped through the post & read you would have seen, I did infact ask about the light. Here :

I was just curious is anyone else has attempted this with the resitor & had it work?
Anywho, I guess I'll have to give this a try & hopefully in hte long run, nothing bad happens.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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Yeah. but. racing seat + harness = who cares if the air bag goes off at all ? just pull the air bag fuse in the dash and then disconnect the annoying light. Of course using the stock seat belts is another matter.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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what if i dont have harness.....but just seats
i really hope someone can figure a way to solve the problem!
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by c41250n
what if i dont have harness.....but just seats
i really hope someone can figure a way to solve the problem!

What problem?

Finding out if the airbags will deploy? I don't know anyone that would be willing to find out..
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 12:16 AM
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to atleast trun the airbig light off
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by c41250n
to atleast trun the airbig light off
There has been a few post above that said the resitor trick works for the light.. I'll let every know when we get some the brides installed...
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by WoodsOfGreenRx8
There has been a few post above that said the resitor trick works for the light.. I'll let every know when we get some the brides installed...
yeah haha I know it's pain in the ***. but please make some kind of DIY thing.

I really have no idea how to make those resistor citcuit thing.

sounds so confusing,.

just got veilside seats with bride rails but just because of this damn airbag light

I had to keep postponing the installation.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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is this for real....keep me updated for sure!
i will be all over this!
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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Scan from shop manual for the 2004. To quote the manual:

"Inspection of an air bag module using a tester can operate (deploy) the air bag module, which may cause serious injury. Do not use a tester to inspect an air bag module. Always use the on-board diagnostic function to diagnose air bag." Translation: DON'T TRY TO MEASURE THE RESISTANCE.

Driver's-side side airbag (e.g., the one in the seat) shows an expected resistance of 1.4-3.2 ohms.
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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You measure the resistance on the seat not the airbag. You disconnect it from the airbag and then measure. IT doesn't even need to be hooked up to do that. Please use more brain and less idiot in your future replies.
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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Since I was the one that started this, I feel I should chime in based on some of the things I read. One, the resistor that I put in had nothing to do with the seat rail position sensor. The resistor was there to make the airbag system on the car think that there was still an airbag present in the seat (which, obviously, there was not since I removed the driver and passenger seats). I have since sold the car, and I can't remember if I did anything with regards to the seat position sensor.

The bottom line is that yes, putting a 1/2W 2.0 Ohm resistor into the socket where the seat airbag plugs into the car did keep the airbag light from coming on.
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