Coop '04

Yes the parking lights flash on the first lock (as long as the doors and trunk are closed)

mkztg

My wife's Mazdaspeed 6 does this exact same thing ( roll the windows down when holding the fob unlock button)

She has the auto up and down feature (factory installed) for her windows.

I've been wanting to do the auto up windows DIY but if this will do it along with all the other great features you have mentioned as possibilities you really will have a winner here.

Dutch2

Thanks for the input everybody... I think I figured out a way to do this:

Press the unlock button:
1st press: unlock drivers door and beep.
2nd press: unlock both doors.
3rd press: open windows and sunroof.

Press the lock button:
1st press: lock the doors and beep.
2nd press: close the windows and sunroof.
3rd press: sound the horn.

The only thing I'm worried about is that it requires a few wires to be routed through the door boot... any idea how difficult this is?

D2.

praxis1301

just a lil tidbit... i have the advanced keyless entry/ignition system in my '06. i have it set to auto-lock. when i close the door it beeps once, when i walk away it beeps again to tell me it's locked. if i'm locking it manually i click the button once and it locks the doors and beeps... a second lock button sets the alarm and honks the horn... you might want to check into some wiring and f/w differences in the '06 model w/ the advanced keyless. it might be helpful...

but i still would be interested in the auto windows/sunroof, i don't know how many times i forget to close the sunroof!

Dutch2

Does the 2006 model still flash the lights when using the remote?

Does it flash when the auto lock feature locks the doors?

If so, the window & sunroof part of this should still work.

D2.

jzrx8

Dutch2, routing the wires thru the door boot is easy. just use a coat hanger or anyother wire to help guide the other thru. For example, take the coat hanger and push it thru the boot from the inside of the car (where the trim panel) is and then it will exit out on the other side(inside door panel) and tie your wires or tape them to the hanger and gentely pull them thru. Becareful if you are you wire connects make sure that they are not inside of the boot because the boot move alot and could break the connectors or crush them and then short other wires inside the boot. Basically just make sure that when your done that only wires are going thru the boot.

Dutch2

Thanks jzrx8, it sounds like running a few wires through the boot shouldn't be too hard, especially since I read somebody put 14 gauge speaker wire though it

This is what will have to run through the boot:

1. Sunroof Module power from battery
2. Sunroof Module power to module
3. Sunroof Close signal
4. Sunroof Open signal
5. Horn relay signal from Keyless Control Module
6. Horn signal to horn relay
7. Turn signal light from Flasher Control Module

The current required for any of these wires is pretty low, so 20 gauge is probably more than enough.

The higher current window motor signals are all available in the driver side door.

Ordered some parts today... will play with them next week

D2.

StealthTL

iTrader: (1)

What happened to the original concept of just a beep?

A module that beeps, in the trunk by the light.

I certainly don't want to have the door panels off, or wrestle with the wiring boots, or run wires up to the sunroof

K.I.S.S.....

S

Dutch2

Don't worry, it's not dead

I can build the same unit with only the beeper circuit.

One thing I figured out is that it will have to connect to both tail lights to make sure it is the alarm doing the flashing and not a quick lane change signal

D2.

sonicblue6

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Sounds cool, and I'm down with the windows/sunroof features!

praxis1301

yes the lights still flash every time it locks auto and manual.

SmokeyTheBalrog

How are you going to differentiate between the alarm light flashes and emergency flashers?


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Dutch2

The unit also monitors other signals from the Keyless Control Module to make sure the alarm is doing the flashing.
It also looks for one or two flashes, three or more will not trigger it.

The "beeper only" version that will live in the trunk would be triggered if you use the emergency button to flash once or twice. I'll see if there is a way around that.

D2.

jzrx8

Depending on how much room is in the boot, running that many wires should not be a problem at all. And if someone did run 14 gauge speaker wire thru there you shouldnt have a problem. And if this is created properly then you wont have to run the wires up to the sunroof, the wiring for the sunroof runs down the drivers side A-pillar and then drops down behind the dash by the pedals. So basically all you would have to do is just splice into the wires and not have to run they into the headliner. If the wires have to go thru the boot in the door and body then they will come out in close to the same area as the wires your going to have to splice into. Install shouldnt be hard at all.

Where are you located Dutch? I would like to see and help out in this project

~Jay~

praxis1301

for the sunroof stuff... someone one here had a d.i.y. on how to set the sunroof to be able to close after you turn off the engine(like you can the windows)... that might help w/ the wiring to the sunroof

Dutch2

Only sunroof motor power and sunroof module power are available at a driver side connector. Both wires are only used to power the sunroof parts, and do not control it.

The only way to control it is through the switches, and for as far as I can tell from the schematics those wires are only available by the sunroof controls.

In other words, the power for the sunroof module is available on a connector by the driver side fuses, but the open and close buttons will need two 20 gauge wires to be run through the head liner.

By the way, I'm not too far from Charlotte, NC.

praxis1301, I found the DIY on the sunroof and it shows where to access the sunroof module power wire very well.
In the DIY the wire is connected to the window power-off delay module to let you close the sunroof within a specific amount of time after you turn the car off, just like the windows.
In the case of this module the power for the sunroof module will be switched on to allow it to open/close the sunroof no matter how long after the car has been turned off.

Hope this all makes sense

D2.

Dutch2

I think I've come up with a way to make the beeper-only version react to the alarm only, and not a short on/off of the emergency button.

The unit could connect to 3 wires by the Keyless Control Module; Front Door Lock, Front Door Unlock, and Flasher Control Output. Constant Power and Ground is available there too, so it should make for an easy installation.

The logic is something like "If the Flasher Control Output is active at the same time as the Lock signal" the remote is locking the door.
"If the Flasher Control Output is active at the same time as the Unlock signal" the remote is unlocking the door.

Comments?

D2.

RCW

That sounds like the right way to do it. Where is the keyless control module located?

Dutch2

The Keyless Control Module is on the passenger side behind the glove compartment. There is a big wiring harness going from that side of the car to the driver side that will have all the wires in it that we need.

The Flasher Module is at the driver side, the wires may be available there too.

I'm going to do this module first because it's simple.

D2.

BoosTED

iTrader: (2)

One thing to keep in mind is safety for the auto-closing windows and / or sunroof. Not sure how dangerous they are when they close (I've never tested their force) but if they can pinch or break a little kids fingers that isn't good.

Is there a sensing mechanism that tells the window or sunroof controller to stop closing if there is resistance?

Dutch2

Both window motors have built-in protection against over-current (stalling). How much it takes to stop the window is a different story. I can't tell from the schematics if the sun roof has the same feature, but I'm sure it has some kind of protection to prevent motor ehhh... thermal events

One feature I have been thinking about is that if you would hit the lock button again while the windows & sun roof are closing it would stop.

Something like this:
1. Press lock, car locks.
2. Press lock again, windows close.
3. Kid screams.
4. Press lock again, windows stop closing.

Maybe even back up the windows & sun roof a little, call it "vent mode".

It's not an issue, it's a feature!

D2.

BoosTED

iTrader: (2)

That is good to know about the over-current protection.

A parent shouldn't lock their kids in the car anyways.

This sure will be a nice solution.

RotaryP7

Interesting..

qtwre

iTrader: (1)

I've been followinf this thread and I'm wondering if anybody can answer me this... In what year did Mazda start putting the beeper in the rx8?

BoosTED

iTrader: (2)

I'm not aware of them putting a beeper in the car.

What do you mean by beeper?