bizron

iTrader: (1)

The way you described the output being low when wiring in before the amp seems to be the result everyone has when going in before the amp.

I had the 6.5" subwoofer version and when I tapped in after the amp (using a loc for low level input to the tube), it was definitely bumping good without the gain being maxed.

416to212

Bizron.

Thanks for clearly confirming your results.

I'm going to rewire my stuff and compare - Uhg... more wire taps! LOL

ZoomZoomRx-8

Hey 416,

My results were not good by tapping the high level before the amp. The signal was too weak to make the sub thump. I tapped after the amp and eveyrthing is THUMPING now

Also, my auto remote is working great. You might have had to turn your volume so high up because the signal was not strong enough.

Now when I power up the car and stereo is on (around even 5 volume) it thumps just fine.

What I did yesterday was, I took out the rear speaker wires from the speakers, so the big speakers in the back dont work anymore. Just the sub and the tweeters in the back. Which is good for me since I am not a fan of Midbase 1k sound. I also have the fader set more to the rear otherwise the midbase from the front two speakers (which have a sub built in on the bose models from what i read) drowns out the bazooka's rich low base boom for the driver/passneger seat.

This configuration works for me..hope this helps

416to212

ZoomZoomRx-8.

Thanks for the info. I want to rewire tonight after the amp for High Levels. Do you happen to know what colored wires are + and - for the rear 6x9?

ZoomZoomRx-8

yeah, but just to be safe, let me look into the wires tonight after work and then get back to you. I did find on the forum the colors from the speakers. But even those were mixed up and the sub distorted at first but once I got the colors right, it sounded awesome.

416to212

I've been looking around and here is what I found for the wire colors for the rear speakers:

Left Rear + Violet
Left Rear - Pink

Right Rear + White/Blue
Right Rear - Black/Blue

ZoomZoomRx-8 can you confirm?

ZoomZoomRx-8

that's correct my friend, i just double checked

jstkilntim

1 vote for best question ever.

And.....................choice #1 on this poll (the one that is winning) should not even be an option. As stated by a few others, a LOC was not, is not & probably never will be designed to amplify low level signals. This is why GOD made line drivers.

bizron

iTrader: (1)

a LOC takes high level inputs and converts them to low level inputs (the RCAs)....right?

I never assumed that a LOC amp'd anything. It seemed to me that the signal for the high level inputs would be strongest after the amp (seems to make sense), so that's where I tapped in.

Would the wires before the amp really be considered high level inputs?

I thought the pre-amp wires carried very clean signal, but it was very low. That's why the other guy had very low response from his bass tube when tapping before the amp...That's my guess anyway.

scremn8

i have a tube hooked up pre amp. but i also have another amp wired to push that tube. just wiring the tube to your stock amp will not help if thats what you did..
and i also had my amp hooked up after the stock amp. well it blew that amp out, it kept going to low and finally died..

ZoomZoomRx-8

I beg to differ. I have my tube hooked after the amp because the bazooka has hi-level inputs and it works fine, there is no point having a second amp to push the tube, that is just redundant because the tube has a built in amp. Also, since its working great, i dont know why people still argue with what's right and what is not. If you are not using a powered sub with high level inputs, then you need to tap before the amp, use a LOC and then amp the signal. I my experince not if you are using a POWERED BAZOOKA

jstkilntim

jstkilntim

jstkilntim

Directly from AudioControl's glossary. I seriously doubt that anyone in this forum could dispute the knowledge, reputation & quality of them or their products.

LINE OUTPUT CONVERTER
Device for converting a powered (or amplified) signal into a pre-amp line level (or non-powered) signal.

PRE-AMP or LINE LEVEL SIGNALS
Refers to the non-powered audio signal going into a power amplifier, typically through RCA connectors.

scremn8

i did not state that my tube was powered so i don't see how it's redundant with the way it's hooked up. where has bizron is having problems with his, and seeing that he bought it used, it's possible that the amp is out. if this is the case
and he still wants to use that tube he can buy an amp and wire it the right way..

ZoomZoomRx-8

well i assumed yours was powered scremn8, my apologies, then your setup is correct

But both bizron and I have tapped after the AMP and it works great. The signal is too low before the amp for the bazooka's built in amp to generate enough output. I dont think bizron is having an issue, his unit is working fine as far as I know

scremn8

we are all brothers.
all is good

ZoomZoomRx-8

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kimota

Your exactly right I have a 3Sixty.2 ( which is a powered LOC) that died on me tapped before the amp. It will take several weeks for Rockford to send me a replacement so I picked up a $17.00 LOC at Walmart to use during the interim. Using the same wires tapped before the amp I was able to get signal to my fronts and rears (all after market) but not the subs. I tapped after the amp on the orginal rear speaker lead, subs are working fine.

Thanx